wmw999 2,446 #26 August 20, 2010 He spent several years in a Muslim country. That doesn't make him a Muslim. I was raised for several years in Brazil (longer than Obama spent in Indonesia), but I'm not Brazilian. And his minister is not radical. Really. He uses fiery language. Do Christian ministers who say Muslims deserve death get called radical? Do Christian ministers who say that women shouldn't serve in any capacity that gives them authority over men get called radical? But for pete's sake, he's a UCC minister. While that's liberal as Christians go, it's very definitely mainstream. Go do research on your own; don't just believe the words that someone strings together. If you don't like Obama, say so, but don't go spouting bullshit just because someone else did. Wendy P.There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
marks2065 0 #27 August 20, 2010 QuoteHe spent several years in a Muslim country. That doesn't make him a Muslim. I was raised for several years in Brazil (longer than Obama spent in Indonesia), but I'm not Brazilian. And his minister is not radical. Really. He uses fiery language. Do Christian ministers who say Muslims deserve death get called radical? Do Christian ministers who say that women shouldn't serve in any capacity that gives them authority over men get called radical? But for pete's sake, he's a UCC minister. While that's liberal as Christians go, it's very definitely mainstream. Go do research on your own; don't just believe the words that someone strings together. If you don't like Obama, say so, but don't go spouting bullshit just because someone else did. Wendy P. the only bullshit is the liberals that refuse to believe the words coming out of Obama's own mouth. If you refuse to believe it then I guess you fall into that catagory. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wmw999 2,446 #28 August 20, 2010 What words came out of his mouth? Can you point to a source besides "someone on the radio?" And is it a direct quote or a paraphrase? And if you heard "raised as a Muslim" I believe that means he attended public school in Indonesia for a couple of years; by that standard, he was also raised as a Catholic; he also attended Catholic school. By that standard, I was raised as a Brazilian: I went to Brazilian schools for 6 years. I even keep in contact with my friends from then. But I'm still not a Brazilian. Wendy P.There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hwt 0 #29 August 20, 2010 The topic was brought up to distract the people from the failing economy. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #30 August 20, 2010 Quote The topic was brought up to distract the people from the failing economy. Oh yeah... the failed economy you voted for HOW many times? Everytime you have voted for those who believed in VOO DOODOO economic policies since 1980.. YOU voted for it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
davjohns 1 #31 August 20, 2010 I don't care what his religious views are unless they involve harming others or some such. I DO care if he misleads people about things. That includes his religious preference. In that case, it is not about his religion, but his integrity.I know it just wouldnt be right to kill all the stupid people that we meet.. But do you think it would be appropriate to just remove all of the warning labels and let nature take its course. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,489 #32 August 20, 2010 QuoteQuoteQuotewell he said he is a christian and did belong to a church that had rev wright - that would be radical. I heard 5 different sound bites this morning of Obama talking about his muslim religion and how he was raised in the muslim faith - that would be the lie. one is true and it doesn't really make a difference. Ok, let me get this straight - you think that Obama is claiming that he is a muslim? no Obama has said he is a christian and was raised a muslim. what I think he is doesn't matter. that he is either a radical or a liar is what matters. I would love to either hear or read what he actually said in those soundbites.Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnRich 4 #33 August 20, 2010 Quote Quote TEXAS cognitive abilities. 'Zon (Amazon), you should know that you and I are pretty much on the same page politically, but that looked like a PA to me. She's joining the ranks with cristelsabine for anti-Texas bigotry. I think it's funny how the people who exhibit bigotry like this, also claim to be more enlightened than everyone else. Oh well, she's only hurting her own reputation. Definition: "bigot": http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/bigot Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #34 August 20, 2010 Quote Quote Quote TEXAS cognitive abilities. 'Zon (Amazon), you should know that you and I are pretty much on the same page politically, but that looked like a PA to me. She's joining the ranks with cristelsabine for anti-Texas bigotry. I think it's funny how the people who exhibit bigotry like this, also claim to be more enlightened than everyone else. Oh well, she's only hurting her own reputation. SPROIIIIIIIIING Broke it again John Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 2 #35 August 20, 2010 Quote I'm still not a Brazilian. OK, fine. So how many are you? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #36 August 20, 2010 I dont Because it is obvious what religion he is is only important depending on which voting group he is talking to"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
davjohns 1 #37 August 20, 2010 Is POWER a religion?I know it just wouldnt be right to kill all the stupid people that we meet.. But do you think it would be appropriate to just remove all of the warning labels and let nature take its course. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,027 #38 August 20, 2010 Quote The topic was brought up to distract the people from the failing economy. You must be referring to the most severe recession in 80 years, the one that started in Nov 2007, during the Bush administration, and required huge bailouts of capitalist corporations by Bush.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #39 August 21, 2010 Quote Quote The topic was brought up to distract the people from the failing economy. You must be referring to the most severe recession in 80 years, the one that started in Nov 2007, during the Bush administration, and required huge bailouts of capitalist corporations by Bush. Details Details Details Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CanuckInUSA 0 #40 August 21, 2010 QuoteI wish Pops was still with us.... man do I miss his all too spankable persona here. Pops is from Georgia ... and I am not talking about the state. Try not to worry about the things you have no control over Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #41 August 21, 2010 Quote Quote I wish Pops was still with us.... man do I miss his all too spankable persona here. Pops is from Georgia ... and I am not talking about the state. Mikal spent a whole lot of time in TX.... and he certainly seemed more at "home" at Byron Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zenister 0 #42 August 21, 2010 Quote Quote I'm still not a Brazilian. OK, fine. So how many are you? Rotfl..and needs a new beer.____________________________________ Those who fail to learn from the past are simply Doomed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lucky... 0 #43 August 21, 2010 QuoteThere seems to be a whole bunch of people who don't want a christian president, but those same people somehow don't care if the president is muslim. Go figure. I don't care if they or anyone is Christian (or any religion), as long as they don't legislate/rule with any thought of that belief. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lucky... 0 #44 August 21, 2010 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteThere seems to be a whole bunch of people who don't want a christian president, but those same people somehow don't care if the president is muslim. Go figure. Where on earth have you got that from? Please tell me you're not serious?! I am indeed serious. If you think the same as John, perhaps you can tell me why? I can tell you why. Although its not true, there are MANY stupid Americans who believe that President Obama is Muslim! Right, because he said the Muslims have the right to build their worship house where tehy want, all of the sudden he is a Muslim. Bill defends gay rights, feels they s/b able to marry; which moron in here thinks he's gay as a result of his belief they have the right to celebrate their lifestyle? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lucky... 0 #45 August 21, 2010 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteThere seems to be a whole bunch of people who don't want a christian president, but those same people somehow don't care if the president is muslim. Go figure. Where on earth have you got that from? Please tell me you're not serious?! I am indeed serious. If you think the same as John, perhaps you can tell me why? I can tell you why. Although its not true, there are MANY stupid Americans who believe that President Obama is Muslim! Riiight. Those are people who do want a christian president and who do care if the president is a muslim (hence why it was made up in the first place). That's the opposite of what JR said. I don't care if he is a muslim, I do care if he lies about his faith and if he is a radical in his faith. We do know he has either lied about his faith or is radical about his faith and that is disturbing to me 1) How has he lied about his faith in Christianity 2) Why does he have to disclose it or even disclose it honestly? He must disclose his taxes, assets, etc, not his faith. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lucky... 0 #46 August 21, 2010 QuoteQuoteQuoteWe do know he has either lied about his faith or is radical about his faith and that is disturbing to meHow do you know that? Wendy P. well he said he is a christian and did belong to a church that had rev wright - that would be radical. I heard 5 different sound bites this morning of Obama talking about his muslim religion and how he was raised in the muslim faith - that would be the lie. one is true and it doesn't really make a difference. Sound bites, as in statements taken out of context and aired on RW radio, Limbaugh, etc? Yea, share those with us. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lucky... 0 #47 August 21, 2010 QuoteQuoteHe spent several years in a Muslim country. That doesn't make him a Muslim. I was raised for several years in Brazil (longer than Obama spent in Indonesia), but I'm not Brazilian. And his minister is not radical. Really. He uses fiery language. Do Christian ministers who say Muslims deserve death get called radical? Do Christian ministers who say that women shouldn't serve in any capacity that gives them authority over men get called radical? But for pete's sake, he's a UCC minister. While that's liberal as Christians go, it's very definitely mainstream. Go do research on your own; don't just believe the words that someone strings together. If you don't like Obama, say so, but don't go spouting bullshit just because someone else did. Wendy P. the only bullshit is the liberals that refuse to believe the words coming out of Obama's own mouth. If you refuse to believe it then I guess you fall into that catagory. Are you naive? I'm sure it was a sound bite either pieced together or a fragment taken out of context. Brother, I guess when you look for something to be true, you'll grasp at anything. Why not find those sound bites and post them. In court, if you have a recording it must be in its entirety, if you're a whacko RW extremist and run a radio show you can just piece them together and the lemmings will believe. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,489 #48 August 21, 2010 Quote Quote Quote Quote We do know he has either lied about his faith or is radical about his faith and that is disturbing to me How do you know that? Wendy P. well he said he is a christian and did belong to a church that had rev wright - that would be radical. I heard 5 different sound bites this morning of Obama talking about his muslim religion and how he was raised in the muslim faith - that would be the lie. one is true and it doesn't really make a difference. Sound bites, as in statements taken out of context and aired on RW radio, Limbaugh, etc? Yea, share those with us. It might even be that fake youtube video where someone spliced together a bunch of speeches to make it sound like he was saying he was a muslim. Didn't even lip synch but it fooled one of our resident Obama conspiracy theorists into posting it here a few weeks agoDo you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lucky... 0 #49 August 21, 2010 Quote The topic was brought up to distract the people from the failing economy. Failing economy????? HUH? Unemp rose 3.4 from Feb 08 to Feb 09, the GDP is doing awsome and crashing market that fell to 6500 is now holding strong above 10K, made it > 11k for a bit. Not sure which failing economy you want to fabricate, but show us. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lucky... 0 #50 August 21, 2010 QuoteI don't care what his religious views are unless they involve harming others or some such. I DO care if he misleads people about things. That includes his religious preference. In that case, it is not about his religion, but his integrity. What has he misled us about? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites