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turtlespeed 220
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You two should get a room.
That's cute. I remember my first time realizing that my argument was terrible and instead resorting to attacking people personally.
When, in your
I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama
BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun
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You two should get a room.
That's cute. I remember my first time realizing that my argument was terrible and instead resorting to attacking people personally.
When, in yourlast 36ONLY 36 posts, did you have this epiphany?
Oh sorry I forgot. I don't have the posts (or jump numbers for that matter) to state my opinion in these forums.
turtlespeed 220
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You two should get a room.
That's cute. I remember my first time realizing that my argument was terrible and instead resorting to attacking people personally.
When, in yourlast 36ONLY 36 posts, did you have this epiphany?
Oh sorry I forgot. I don't have the posts (or jump numbers for that matter) to state my opinion in these forums.
I didn't even remotely suggest that - Just anser the question. I want to see the one where it happened.
I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama
BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun
BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun
Apparently you completely missed my sarcasm and reference to Step Brothers.
turtlespeed 220
QuoteApparently you completely missed my sarcasm and reference to Step Brothers.
Guess so.
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I still want to see if it ever happens.
I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama
BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun
BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun
Sorry to disappoint, but it will never happen because I never have bad arguments . I'll let you know when it happens to my opponents though.
turtlespeed 220
QuoteSorry to disappoint, but it will never happen because I never have bad arguments
. I'll let you know when it happens to my opponents though.
Try Amazon . . . it happens a LOT . . . but she just never admits it.
I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama
BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun
BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun
Amazon 7
QuoteQuoteSorry to disappoint, but it will never happen because I never have bad arguments
Try Amazon . . . it happens a LOT . . . but she just never admits it.
Never happen Turtle dahrlin ....... you guys will never escape from that stange place you guys exist in where very strange perceptions rule all thought masquerading as reality
Meso 38
Actually I was for the most part taking the piss out of it.
But researching the detailed beliefs of the bible is fruitless considering the fact that each Christian seems to interpret the bible in their own way. Some choose to discount areas that other Christians don't. Others choose to refer to certain stories as metaphors while others believe it's the truth. Some believe that if you're a true Christian you need to attend church, others disagree and flame the churches as misleading.
In my own family alone I have members who believe the bible is completely fact, both testaments. Others believe that you can't be a Christian without attending church and others believe that you just need to believe.
To quote wikipedia:
"The predominant Christian view is that Jesus mediates a New Covenant relationship between God and his followers and abolished the Mosaic Laws, according to the New Testament."
Which is what I knew all along. And doesn't change the fact that if God was all knowing and all powerful, why would he have not chosen an ideal and perfect way to communicate his teachings in the first place, and not relied on sending a proxy to correct or adjust his previous teachings or ideals in any way. They would be, from the beginning - perfect.
But researching the detailed beliefs of the bible is fruitless considering the fact that each Christian seems to interpret the bible in their own way. Some choose to discount areas that other Christians don't. Others choose to refer to certain stories as metaphors while others believe it's the truth. Some believe that if you're a true Christian you need to attend church, others disagree and flame the churches as misleading.
In my own family alone I have members who believe the bible is completely fact, both testaments. Others believe that you can't be a Christian without attending church and others believe that you just need to believe.
To quote wikipedia:
"The predominant Christian view is that Jesus mediates a New Covenant relationship between God and his followers and abolished the Mosaic Laws, according to the New Testament."
Which is what I knew all along. And doesn't change the fact that if God was all knowing and all powerful, why would he have not chosen an ideal and perfect way to communicate his teachings in the first place, and not relied on sending a proxy to correct or adjust his previous teachings or ideals in any way. They would be, from the beginning - perfect.
jgoose71 0
QuoteNo Christianity is not the religion of peace. Jesus Christ himself was very clear that he was not the 'Prince of peace' and that he came to bring the opposite of peace to earth, inhis own words in the New testament he says the following:
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Luke 12:49-53
Not Peace but Division
"I have come to bring fire on the earth, and how I wish it were already kindled! But I have a baptism to undergo, and how distressed I am until it is completed! Do you think I came to bring peace on earth? No, I tell you, but division. From now on there will be five in one family divided against each other, three against two and two against three. They will be divided, father against son and son against father, mother against daughter and daughter against mother, mother-in-law against daughter-in-law and daughter-in-law against mother-in-law."
Matthew 10:34-36
"Do not suppose that I have come to bring peace to the earth. I did not come to bring peace, but a sword. For I have come to turn
" 'a man against his father,
a daughter against her mother,
a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law -
a man's enemies will be the members of his own household.'
These are the words of Jesus, his word was edited out of most of the Bible but seems the Romans forgot about this bit.
I'm not a bible scholar, but I was always under the impression that the division he was talking about was going to be crated by his teachings.
He knew that the new testament wasn't going to be excepted by some, and indeed, he was crucified by the Jews for it. Some would except the love and forgiveness that he brought and others would reject it.
And to those that reject him, he didn't say "death to the infidels" he said love thy neighbor.
"There is an art, it says, or, rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss."
Life, the Universe, and Everything
Life, the Universe, and Everything
jgoose71 0
QuoteQuoteI rest my case. And in your rebuttal, please do not quote from the Old Testament. In the Christian tradition, the Old Testament is considered to be the word, but the words that came later, spoken by the Son, are the words that one must hear and promise to obey in order to call oneself a Christian
Just to touch on this...
So basically either God was wrong or Jesus was? Or God made a mistake? Which apparently he doesn't do.
Does Jesus outrank God? Since the one is portrayed as a sadistic, jealous hatemonger while the other is a hippie. And you either have to follow ones teaching or the other's if you think logically, as they contradict in many parts. Unless you want to use typical Christian logic and suggest that one can pick which parts of what God said should be omitted and what should stay.
No wonder God let his only son die on a cross, he came down here and started outranking and contradicting him.
How do you know god wasn't trying to do the "Scared Straight" thing?
If you ever coached a team you know you always come on strong to get them into shape before you ease off. If you start easy you are setting your team up for failure.
Once they have had a tall glass of "act right" things usually go smoothly after that.
"There is an art, it says, or, rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss."
Life, the Universe, and Everything
Life, the Universe, and Everything
Meso 38
I would support that theory, as that's my philosophy to Christianity in the first place.
One is raised to fear God from an early age, the age where children believe whatever they're told no matter how much logic it lacks. And then once you instil that fear, they will continue to follow in most cases.
But if he was so powerful and perfect he'd surely know how to get people to follow through means other than being threatening about it. Though I recall the old testament calling him a jealous God, so I guess it goes with the territory.
One is raised to fear God from an early age, the age where children believe whatever they're told no matter how much logic it lacks. And then once you instil that fear, they will continue to follow in most cases.
But if he was so powerful and perfect he'd surely know how to get people to follow through means other than being threatening about it. Though I recall the old testament calling him a jealous God, so I guess it goes with the territory.
That's cute. I remember my first time realizing that my argument was terrible and instead resorting to attacking people personally.
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