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Right... you make unsavoury deals with unsavoury people, and the only possibly explanation for them fucking you over is that God made them do it. Yeah, ok dude.



No, it was an example of reaping what you sow...

Those deals were legit.

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Wow, you went to Vegas and came out a broken man? Now that really is remarkable, I can definitely see the hand of God in that one.



There is more to do in Vegas than gamble...and those deals were legit too...well except one of em.

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Exactly. Which (again) is why you continue to avoid actually thinking about your beliefs. You like them, so you just ignore the contradictions.



What do I believe?

What contradictions?
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What contradictions?



Free Will and Providence.

Take those deals which people screwed you over on: if that was God's judgement against you then God must have made those people decide to screw you over. But then, them screwing you over would presumably be an example of the type of 'me me me' behaviour that you say got you into trouble in the first place. So God has made someone else do something bad, for the purpose of breaking you down for being bad, which will presumably have the knock on effect of God having to take action on the guy that did the bad thing to you... See what I'm getting at here?

Everything that you've said on this subject, in this thread and previously, gives the impression that you seem to think that you're the only real person living in a world of what are effectively puppets, to be manipulated and controlled as God sees fit for the purpose of making good or bad things happen to you.

It's an incredibly strange worldview.
Do you want to have an ideagasm?

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Free Will and Providence.



I like to use the word paradox...not contradiction.

But yes, the fact remains that it has not been resolved, but that doesn't mean I'm ignoring it...I have faith that we will someday understand, probably around the same time you understand your dark matter.

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It's an incredibly strange worldview.



Ya, unless we call it Karma...something that doesn't have to be attributed to God.
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I like to use the word paradox...not contradiction.



Well isn't that nice for you.

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But yes, the fact remains that it has not been resolved, but that doesn't mean I'm ignoring it...I have faith that we will someday understand,



Which means you're ignoring it.

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Ya, unless we call it Karma...something that doesn't have to be attributed to God.



Oh really.

Check out my responses to Shah in his Karma thread a few weeks ago. Same symptoms, same treatment.
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I like how you keep ignoring my refences to that scientific invisible omnipresent substance...

It must be very difficult for you to admit you have to have faith in something.



I don't. I'm not nearly well versed enough in Astrophysics to know the ins and outs of dark matter. I know that there are long term experiments looking for it (and that's pretty much the difference here) and I know that there are also some competing hypotheses, though I don't know how serious or well supported they are.

But then, since God probably made me write that just now, you can't be sure if that's actually my opinion! Such a strange world you live in...
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I'm not nearly well versed enough in Astrophysics to know the ins and outs of dark matter.



Well one of the last scientists I heard to speak on the subject said, I hate it...I wish it would just go away...but at least she was honest.

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But then, since God probably made me write that just now, you can't be sure if that's actually my opinion!



But it is your opinion...you were created and the influences on your life since then dictated how you will respond...

I think we need to understand those influences.

I can admit that God's influence has more effect on me now that I'm actually more open to it....and go figure, it's actually working out just fine.
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I can admit that God's influence has more effect on me



And all the people you know, and who you meet, and what they do to you, all as part of God's grand "Make Coreece a better Christian" masterplan...

I'm sure it makes you happy to feel so special, but please understand, it also makes you sound just a little bit crazy.
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And all the people you know, and who you meet, and what they do to you, all as part of God's grand "Make Coreece a better Christian" masterplan...



Well hopefully we can all make eachother better Christians...

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it also makes you sound just a little bit crazy.



Ya, well...you know...that's just like...uh...your opinion man.

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