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Al Sharpton BLASTED on CSPAN -

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captain1976    0

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He should be blasted. If Sharpton really wanted to get the black crime wave down, he would be working day and night telling young men to stay in school and to marry the mothers of their children, so that boys do not grow up without fathers. He would be demonizing criminals, not the police.

As long as blacks commit crime in numbers wildly disproportionate to their representation in the population, police data are going to show higher involvement with blacks than with whites.

According to victims and witnesses, blacks committed 68.5 percent of all murders, rapes, robberies, and assaults in New York last year, though they are only 24 percent of the city’s population.

Whites, who make up 34.5 percent of New Yorkers, committed 5.3 percent of those crimes. Blacks are nearly 13 times more likely to commit violent crimes than whites.
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Gee I thought CSPAN was all liberal? So much for your liberal media conspiracy.


Liberals can only hide facts and truth for so long, then they must all admit to their ignorance.
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Gee I thought CSPAN was all liberal? So much for your liberal media conspiracy.


Liberals can only hide facts and truth for so long, then they must all admit to their ignorance.


That makes your typical sense:

- Liberals hide = overt known deviance

- Ignorance = not knowing / not aware

You can't just throw a bunch adjectives out there without thinking it thru and still come off appearing intelligent.

If the liberals areintentionally hiding thinsg, that isn't ignorance; start making sense.

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Got anything on content or are you just going to attack the posts that prove you wrong?



Attacking the posts? That's what you're supposed to do and I did.

Try to follow along:

- Neo-con freaks: The mainstream media is all liberal

- This thread: CSPAN hammered a liberal

- ME: Tell me again, how is the MSM liberal?

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Got anything on content or are you just going to attack the posts that prove you wrong?



Attacking the posts? That's what you're supposed to do and I did.

Try to follow along:

- Neo-con freaks: The mainstream media is all liberal

- This thread: CSPAN hammered a liberal

- ME: Tell me again, how is the MSM liberal?



Perhaps you didn't bother to watch the vid there luckster. The C-SPAN host cut off the caller mid-stream, only to be confronted with another caller who felt the same. No one said anything about C-SPAN hammering a liberal.

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He should be blasted. If Sharpton really wanted to get the black crime wave down, he would be working day and night telling young men to stay in school and to marry the mothers of their children, so that boys do not grow up without fathers. He would be demonizing criminals, not the police.

As long as blacks commit crime in numbers wildly disproportionate to their representation in the population, police data are going to show higher involvement with blacks than with whites.

According to victims and witnesses, blacks committed 68.5 percent of all murders, rapes, robberies, and assaults in New York last year, though they are only 24 percent of the city’s population.

Whites, who make up 34.5 percent of New Yorkers, committed 5.3 percent of those crimes. Blacks are nearly 13 times more likely to commit violent crimes than whites.



It has nothing to do with family structure, or income, or education, or etc... etc... etc...

It's all about the color of their skin.

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He should be blasted. If Sharpton really wanted to get the black crime wave down, he would be working day and night telling young men to stay in school and to marry the mothers of their children, so that boys do not grow up without fathers. He would be demonizing criminals, not the police.

As long as blacks commit crime in numbers wildly disproportionate to their representation in the population, police data are going to show higher involvement with blacks than with whites.

According to victims and witnesses, blacks committed 68.5 percent of all murders, rapes, robberies, and assaults in New York last year, though they are only 24 percent of the city’s population.

Whites, who make up 34.5 percent of New Yorkers, committed 5.3 percent of those crimes. Blacks are nearly 13 times more likely to commit violent crimes than whites.



It has nothing to do with family structure, or income, or education, or etc... etc... etc...

It's all about the color of their skin.



Bullcrap.
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Got anything on content or are you just going to attack the posts that prove you wrong?



Attacking the posts? That's what you're supposed to do and I did.

Try to follow along:

- Neo-con freaks: The mainstream media is all liberal

- This thread: CSPAN hammered a liberal

- ME: Tell me again, how is the MSM liberal?



Perhaps you didn't bother to watch the vid there luckster. The C-SPAN host cut off the caller mid-stream, only to be confronted with another caller who felt the same. No one said anything about C-SPAN hammering a liberal.

Here's your napkin.



The first caller drug on saying the same thing so they ended the call. He made his point, it wasn't cut him off to show love for Sharpton. The point is, they showed Sharton getting hammered by a black man, not a feel-good for the libs, so my point was clear and still stands.

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He should be blasted. If Sharpton really wanted to get the black crime wave down, he would be working day and night telling young men to stay in school and to marry the mothers of their children, so that boys do not grow up without fathers. He would be demonizing criminals, not the police.

As long as blacks commit crime in numbers wildly disproportionate to their representation in the population, police data are going to show higher involvement with blacks than with whites.

According to victims and witnesses, blacks committed 68.5 percent of all murders, rapes, robberies, and assaults in New York last year, though they are only 24 percent of the city’s population.

Whites, who make up 34.5 percent of New Yorkers, committed 5.3 percent of those crimes. Blacks are nearly 13 times more likely to commit violent crimes than whites.



It has nothing to do with family structure, or income, or education, or etc... etc... etc...

It's all about the color of their skin.



Bullcrap.


Exactly.

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In regards to black violence and crime. Of course it's higher, it would take someone of extreme ignorance to conclude otherwise.

But the thing is most people don't ask the question 'why', or if they do they then ignore the answers if it's anything they don't want to hear.

It's not a colour issue it's a cultural issue, and that culture was created by oppression and racism. You think most criminals steal and sell drugs because they want to? If you do, you're an idiot. The majority do it because they've got to survive.

It's something that will likely sort itself out over time, but that time is a long way away.

The reason why black families tend to be more torn apart is because historically African American families HAVE BEEN torn apart. If you wanted to, you could trace this right down to slavery. They would split families up and children would grow up not knowing their parents, then when slavery ended you have the blacks oppressed by blatantly racist governments and societies. And because of this oppression blacks were not given equal opportunity, and thus had to resort to crime to survive. Then from this initial crime caused by racism, you'd end up with black men being arrested often, for these crimes they committed to survive, and their children too began to grow up without fathers. Over 100 years of this will tend to have an impact on the way people think.

You have to be really short sighted to think that an increase in crime because of ones skin colour is determined by anything other than social situations. Of course it's very easy as an average white guy to go on about how it's their own faults. And I am against the idea of whites feelings guilty for things their ancestors did, but I'm also against idiots who can't see that what they did had a huge impact on society, especially a black society.

I agree that there should be strong promotion of fathering a child if you have one. As if you do not, you're simply keeping that old cog of negative social values going on, and thus increasing the crime rate.

Although again this comes down to shitty governments, and the way none of them are willing to take a proactive approach in completely cleaning up the so-called 'ghettos', which would resolve much of the crime problems. Instead of going out and arresting the father who is selling crack, hold workshops on how to make money by other means... Increase opportunities for young black men. I'm not saying it will solve all crime problems, but the whole war on drugs bullshit money could be more effective put into different means.

If only Governments put as much effort into solving poverty and the cause of crimes as much as they did into going to war. Or other useless issues.

It's no secret that poverty causes a HUGE increase in crime. So the logic would be to solve the problem of poverty wouldn't it? Or at least try help to solve it. Which is why I'm so anti-conservative. Instead of trying to stem the cause of the problem, they're far more likely to let the problem continue and then try to stop the action caused by the problem. Probably because it gives them something to complain about. If you have a leak in the roof do you just put a bucket under it each time it rains and then bitch about the dripping or do you attempt to find the leak and clog it.

You can have it your way if you disagree, but then things will never change and never have a chance to, but you can enjoy complaining about them.

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Don't even know where to begin with that load.

You've drunk the kool-aid of liberalism...there is no hope for you.



Scroll back thru your posts and realize you bring in no data, nothing of substance just, "as soon as you liberals realize we're right we'll all be better."

Educated people support their points.

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Instead of trying to stem the cause of the problem, they're far more likely to let the problem continue and then try to stop the action caused by the problem.



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It's not a colour issue it's a cultural issue



Agreed. It's a culture that places a high premium on money and respect.

[Reply]and that culture was created by oppression and racism.



This is where the causal links become more difficult. Oppression and racism was a far more serious issue in the 1940's. The 1950's. And the black culture responded by being hardworking and disciplined. The bigoted Amos & Andy portayals depicted black men as no worse than Ralph Kramden and Ed Norton, but also depicted hard working and respectful people.

Nowadays, the terms "sell out" and "oreo" are often used to describe black men and women who achieve, which is why Bill Cosby gets derided by the poverty pimps and race baiters for daring to suggest that the solution to the problem lies with the individual black men and women.

[Reply] You think most criminals steal and sell drugs because they want to? If you do, you're an idiot. The majority do it because they've got to survive.



With the social support system, "survival" isn't the goal anymore. It's about making a quick buck for most in the easiest way possible. Gangs are about making money, which is why drug fealing and violence are such huge parts of it.

A point that also escapes people is also that it isn't whites killing blacks. Blacks are killing blacks and shooting blacks at an alarming rate. This is less about race. You're right - it's about culture.

I[rwply]t's something that will likely sort itself out over time, but that time is a long way away.



It will only do this once fingerpointing stops. Blame pointed one way never solves problems. It has to be shared and admitted by all. The white role. The black role. The government role. All of it. Blaming everyone isn't PC. So the problem gets worse.


[Reply]The reason why black families tend to be more torn apart is because historically African American families HAVE BEEN torn apart. If you wanted to, you could trace this right down to slavery. They would split families up and children would grow up not knowing their parents, then when slavery ended you have the blacks oppressed by blatantly racist governments and societies. And because of this oppression blacks were not given equal opportunity, and thus had to resort to crime to survive.



Again - the fatherless children issue and black crime issue became a big problem in the 1960's and grew and grew. These issues were not prevalent before the 1970's. Literacy rates are below what they were 50 years ago. So something else is at work.

And I'll put blame on pointing the finger at other causes as making the problem worse.


[Reply] Then from this initial crime caused by racism, you'd end up with black men being arrested often, for these crimes they committed to survive, and their children too began to grow up without fathers. Over 100 years of this will tend to have an impact on the way people think.

You have to be really short sighted to think that an increase in crime because of ones skin colour is determined by anything other than social situations. Of course it's very easy as an average white guy to go on about how it's their own faults. And I am against the idea of whites feelings guilty for things their ancestors did, but I'm also against idiots who can't see that what they did had a huge impact on society, especially a black society.



Yes. It has an impact. It's a piece of the puzzle. Unfortunately, making excuses that strip the criminal of responsibility and foist blame on a nameless spectre merely encourage the behavior.

[Reply]If only Governments put as much effort into solving poverty and the cause of crimes as much as they did into going to war. Or other useless issues



There's been a war on poverty in the US since the 60's. It's been a miserable failure because poverty cannot be cured by giving people money.

[Reply]It's no secret that poverty causes a HUGE increase in crime. So the logic would be to solve the problem of poverty wouldn't it? Or at least try help to solve it. Which is why I'm so anti-conservative. Instead of trying to stem the cause of the problem, they're far more likely to let the problem continue and then try to stop the action caused by the problem. Probably because it gives them something to complain about. If you have a leak in the roof do you just put a bucket under it each time it rains and then bitch about the dripping or do you attempt to find the leak and clog it.



Yes. Poverty causes crime. Wealth does not cure it.


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