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totally agree that case was bum. I personally knew of an inmate in my cell hall that was convicted of raping and killing a female friend. The cops put on wigs and did an outside line up with _____put him at the end and he was obviously identified wrongly. He spent 20 years in that prison. DNA evidence came forth and he appealed. 3 years later his case was overturned and he could have walked out of that prison with a payment of 2 million dollars. He was jumped the next day by Black Gangsters, had to defend his life.....by throwing that inmate over the 4th tier. He is now serving a real life sentance for that conviction.
Yes, our system is flawed. What system is not. Does that justify letting the inmates I cased above in caps living, breathing, and dying of old age in a comfortable bunk? I think not.
Lifers do not care about anything. They kill each other, kill the guards protecting the public from them escaping.......and your paying for it! I would rather pay taxes to put them on death row in a solitary cell.......death row inmates do not go to general population. They may live another 10-20 years until our system fixies how many appeals...but the remainder of their lives is spent with NO CONTACT WITH ANYONE, in a single cell.....they're recreation period is in a cage not allowed contact with other inmates.....they are only allowed 1 visit per month....no personal cloths, seg loaves for food instead of 3 hots a day.....or bagged meals.
Their remaining lives in that cell until put to death is pure hell...............
Yes, our system is flawed. What system is not. Does that justify letting the inmates I cased above in caps living, breathing, and dying of old age in a comfortable bunk? I think not.
Lifers do not care about anything. They kill each other, kill the guards protecting the public from them escaping.......and your paying for it! I would rather pay taxes to put them on death row in a solitary cell.......death row inmates do not go to general population. They may live another 10-20 years until our system fixies how many appeals...but the remainder of their lives is spent with NO CONTACT WITH ANYONE, in a single cell.....they're recreation period is in a cage not allowed contact with other inmates.....they are only allowed 1 visit per month....no personal cloths, seg loaves for food instead of 3 hots a day.....or bagged meals.
Their remaining lives in that cell until put to death is pure hell...............
" Mean people SUCK!"
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[They will recieve a life sentance for murder when they went to a max for pot.
Then they take the max inmates and classify them to med security to make room for non-violent felons!
It will never end.
If the above crimes in caps where put to death with only one appeal......that would make room to classify inmates correctly and hopefully start to do something about our overloaded prisons. ![[:/]](/uploads/emoticons/dry.png "[:/]"){kind=small}
Something else we CAN and hopefully will do this November in California is to LEGALIZE the possession and recreational use of marijuana. then we can TAX and regulate its sale and use, the way we already do with alcohol and tobacco. Then we can deal with the health problems that some people do have with its use, eliminate the whole criminal enterprise that currently rules its cultivation and distribution, and keep a lot of innocent users out of jail altogether. The drug laws are why prisons are too overcrowded.
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Sadly, the case of Adams, and many like him, are more common than not. Our system is corrupt, for just a bit of reflection - also google padon board and bribe. There has been numerous "upstanding" men and women who serve on pardon boards who have been tried and convicted of accepting bribes to either uphold the death penalty or pardon it. Howard Marsellus, one of those men who sat on a pardon board openly admitted to believing in the innocence of a man that he upheld the death penalty conviction on, a man named Tim Baldwin who was indeed executed - for a crime he likely did not commit.
While I'm certain no one could argue that pedophiles and serial killers should be set free - it weighs heavy on my personal conscious that we live in a system where the life or death of a person is determined by men and women who are sometimes corrupt, who are always human and therefore prone to error, by lack of or the having of money, and the whims of elected officials - who may not want to appear soft on crime, etc etc etc.
While I'm certain no one could argue that pedophiles and serial killers should be set free - it weighs heavy on my personal conscious that we live in a system where the life or death of a person is determined by men and women who are sometimes corrupt, who are always human and therefore prone to error, by lack of or the having of money, and the whims of elected officials - who may not want to appear soft on crime, etc etc etc.
skygirl1 1
Marsellus, one of those men who sat on a pardon board openly admitted to believing in the innocence of a man that he upheld the death penalty conviction on, a man named Tim Baldwin who was indeed executed - for a crime he likely did not commit.
While I'm certain no one could argue that pedophiles and serial killers should be set free - it weighs heavy on my personal conscious that we live in a system where the life or death of a person is determined by men and women who are sometimes corrupt, who are always human and therefore prone to error, by lack of or the having of money, and the whims of elected officials - who may not want to appear soft on crime, etc etc etc.
While I'm certain no one could argue that pedophiles and serial killers should be set free - it weighs heavy on my personal conscious that we live in a system where the life or death of a person is determined by men and women who are sometimes corrupt, who are always human and therefore prone to error, by lack of or the having of money, and the whims of elected officials - who may not want to appear soft on crime, etc etc etc.
Totally understood. But the justice system is flawed. To get a jury of peers..those peers are questioned and grueled by both attorneys. Peers are dismissed and more brought in. The judge can have partial feelings...the jury can have partial feelings. We are all human and do have human emotion. That is why there is an appeal process.
That is why it goes to Federal Court. And it goes on and on. Our justice system is flawed and it will never end. But I feel the way I do on the death penalty.
" Mean people SUCK!"
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>If I could decide I would vote the above perps of the crimes to be dropped
>off on an island amongst themselves with no protection against each other,
>bags of seeds to feed themselves and let them do what they will do. But
>that will never happen.
That's how a lot of Australians got to Australia - England would exile them there. (Also how some Americans got here; 50,000 Brits were exiled here for various crimes.)
>off on an island amongst themselves with no protection against each other,
>bags of seeds to feed themselves and let them do what they will do. But
>that will never happen.
That's how a lot of Australians got to Australia - England would exile them there. (Also how some Americans got here; 50,000 Brits were exiled here for various crimes.)
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Quote>If I could decide I would vote the above perps of the crimes to be dropped
>off on an island amongst themselves with no protection against each other,
>bags of seeds to feed themselves and let them do what they will do. But
>that will never happen.
That's how a lot of Australians got to Australia - England would exile them there. (Also how some Americans got here; 50,000 Brits were exiled here for various crimes.)
That would explain a few posters here.
I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama
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QuoteI do honor your opinion. I felt the same way until I worked in the prison and saw what I saw. In college my thesis was on prison reform. There is none and never will be. The inmates run the prisons. If they want correcitonal officers to have a bad day, they will riot or kill. I only belive in the death penalty in cases where it is a brutal murder, a hight profile rapist, child killer-rapist and the chances of that perp doing it again are high.
CHILD RAPISTS
SERIAL KILLERS
MASS MURDERERS
If I could decide I would vote the above perps of the crimes to be dropped off on an island amongst themselves with no protection against each other, bags of seeds to feed themselves and let them do what they will do. But that will never happen.
Why do people convicted of a felony of carrying 2 ounces of pot get sentenced to a MAX prison and never get out. They have to join up with a gang, kill a guard or another inmate to live.....be protected. They will recieve a life sentance for murder when they went to a max for pot.
Then they take the max inmates and classify them to med security to make room for non-violent felons!
It will never end.
If the above crimes in caps where put to death with only one appeal......that would make room to classify inmates correctly and hopefully start to do something about our overloaded prisons.
What if we later determine they were innocent after years of time went by? You don't seem to want to address that.
BTW, many murderers are nerds, I've seen several convicted.
As for the island thing, they made of movie about that concept; Papillon. http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0070511/
skygirl1 1
What if we later determine they were innocent after years of time went by? You don't seem to want to address that.
BTW, many murderers are nerds, I've seen several convicted.
As for the island thing, they made of movie about that concept; Papillon. http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0070511/
I have defended that with what I can with the DNA process that was enabled 15 years ago...it is up to the convicted to appeal and prove their case. That is why the death row inmates sit so long. I again repeat I was not talking about basic once in a life time murderers....I was talking about MASS MURDERERS..SERIAL KILLERS...CHILD RAPISTS-KILLERS- SERIAL RAPISTS...as far as the movie? Never saw it...graduated with my bachlor in 1995
" Mean people SUCK!"
skygirl1 1
did not know that. Thanx for the info" Mean people SUCK!"
I do honor your opinion. I felt the same way until I worked in the prison and saw what I saw. In college my thesis was on prison reform. There is none and never will be. The inmates run the prisons. If they want correcitonal officers to have a bad day, they will riot or kill. I only belive in the death penalty in cases where it is a brutal murder, a hight profile rapist, child killer-rapist and the chances of that perp doing it again are high.![[:/]](//www.dropzone.com/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png "[:/]")
CHILD RAPISTS
SERIAL KILLERS
MASS MURDERERS
If I could decide I would vote the above perps of the crimes to be dropped off on an island amongst themselves with no protection against each other, bags of seeds to feed themselves and let them do what they will do. But that will never happen.
Why do people convicted of a felony of carrying 2 ounces of pot get sentenced to a MAX prison and never get out. They have to join up with a gang, kill a guard or another inmate to live.....be protected. They will recieve a life sentance for murder when they went to a max for pot.
Then they take the max inmates and classify them to med security to make room for non-violent felons!
It will never end.
If the above crimes in caps where put to death with only one appeal......that would make room to classify inmates correctly and hopefully start to do something about our overloaded prisons.
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