Lucky... 0 #1 September 6, 2010 http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100906/ap_on_re_mi_ea/iran_stoning On one hand NATO and/or the US should invade, OTOH why end up in a long, protracted war where thousands of Americans die changing a fucked up place like Iran? It's a toughy, but if they go thru with this I say cut em off financially and turn up the heat on the Nukes issue. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BIGUN 1,424 #2 September 6, 2010 Ummm... Oh never mind.Nobody has time to listen; because they're desperately chasing the need of being heard. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lucky... 0 #3 September 7, 2010 QuoteUmmm... Oh never mind. Thanks for that, it was helpful. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 226 #4 September 7, 2010 QuoteUmmm... Oh never mind. I know what you mean. [Furtune Teller Voice]I see in the future a republican President invading Iran . . . and Lucky 100% against the process, no matter what it may be. If only it could have been started during Obama's regime[/FTV]I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BIGUN 1,424 #5 September 7, 2010 Damn.. you're good at this. Nostradamus be damned. We have the Turtle. Nobody has time to listen; because they're desperately chasing the need of being heard. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skycop 0 #6 September 7, 2010 An emotional response to a complicated issue from a "progressive"? Say it ain't so..................... "Just 'cause I'm simple, don't mean I'm stewpid!" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kennedy 0 #7 September 7, 2010 Check your history. Google Iran Stoning. This isn't new. In Iran it's actually fairly common compared even to other countries under sharia law. The fact that you want someone to invade over something in sharia law would astound me if I didn't already expect unreasoning ill-conceived "solutions" from you. Let's see, Iran has the second largest oil reserves in the world? Check. So any attack will be answered by "no blood for oil" by the likes of you (as well as jacking up oil prices). Attacking another country for enforcing their laws? Check. So any attack will be call imperialist action. Attacking for practiong their version of their religion? Check. So it'll look like a war on Islam. Yeah, great reason to attack. How about you pay attention to issues that affect the security of other nations. Like sponsoring terrorism. Like pursuing nuclear power when they sit on more oil than anyone else in the world except the Saudis. Like constant threats if war against neighbors. Etc etc etc.witty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1* Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BillyVance 34 #8 September 7, 2010 I would say leave Iran the fuck alone. We've done enough bullshit in the area. Let Israel fuck with them. "Mediocre people don't like high achievers, and high achievers don't like mediocre people." - SIX TIME National Champion coach Nick Saban Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Darius11 12 #9 September 7, 2010 Quote Let Israel fuck with them The Persian’s were the first people to set the Jews free, maybe they will return the favor.I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 2 #10 September 7, 2010 Quote Quote Let Israel fuck with them The Persian’s were the first people to set the Jews free, maybe they will return the favor. Great idea, Let's go to Brooklyn and free all the Farsi in that concentration camp. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kennedy 0 #11 September 7, 2010 But, but, A Tree Grows In Brooklyn.witty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1* Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Belgian_Draft 0 #12 September 7, 2010 How would lucky feel if Iran came over to the USA and freed us Americans from the government that has been known to take 90% or more of a person's income?HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
grimmie 186 #13 September 7, 2010 Quote How would lucky feel if Iran came over to the USA and freed us Americans from the government that has been known to take 90% or more of a person's income? You need a better tax accountant. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Belgian_Draft 0 #14 September 7, 2010 Quote Quote How would lucky feel if Iran came over to the USA and freed us Americans from the government that has been known to take 90% or more of a person's income? You need a better tax accountant. Smaller government would be better.HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kennedy 0 #15 September 8, 2010 I happen to agree with both of you. I got myself a better CPA, and lower taxes would help. Where did the 90% bit come from? I've never seen over 70% in the US, even of you count income tax and then taxes on spending.witty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1* Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Belgian_Draft 0 #16 September 8, 2010 QuoteI happen to agree with both of you. I got myself a better CPA, and lower taxes would help. Where did the 90% bit come from? I've never seen over 70% in the US, even of you count income tax and then taxes on spending. Back in the '40s, '50s, and early '60s. One chart here: www.truthandpolitics.org/top-rates.phpHAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 2 #17 September 8, 2010 QuoteQuoteI happen to agree with both of you. I got myself a better CPA, and lower taxes would help. Where did the 90% bit come from? I've never seen over 70% in the US, even of you count income tax and then taxes on spending. Back in the '40s, '50s, and early '60s. One chart here: www.truthandpolitics.org/top-rates.php If you think that tax rate was used mainly to fund "socialism" in the US during that time, you're wrong. After World War II, that was principally to fund the (largely peacetime) massive military buildup that morphed into the Cold War military-industrial complex. In the US, unlike the UK and most of Europe during the 50s, those taxes were not used mainly to fund domestic social services programs like the other nations' comprehensive national health services. Eisenhower (Republican), who was President from 1953-1961, could have put the brakes on that, but did not. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Belgian_Draft 0 #18 September 8, 2010 QuoteQuoteQuoteI happen to agree with both of you. I got myself a better CPA, and lower taxes would help. Where did the 90% bit come from? I've never seen over 70% in the US, even of you count income tax and then taxes on spending. Back in the '40s, '50s, and early '60s. One chart here: www.truthandpolitics.org/top-rates.php If you think that tax rate was used mainly to fund "socialism" in the US during that time, you're wrong. After World War II, that was principally to fund the (largely peacetime) massive military buildup that morphed into the Cold War military-industrial complex. In the US, unlike the UK and most of Europe during the 50s, those taxes were not used mainly to fund domestic social services programs like the other nations' comprehensive national health services. Eisenhower (Republican), who was President from 1953-1961, could have put the brakes on that, but did not. I never said the taxes were used to fund socialism.HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lucky... 0 #19 September 9, 2010 Quote Damn.. you're good at this. Nostradamus be damned. We have the Turtle. You two get a room. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lucky... 0 #20 September 9, 2010 Quote An emotional response to a complicated issue from a "progressive"? Say it ain't so..................... Followd by meaningless drivel from a cop. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 226 #21 September 9, 2010 Quote Quote An emotional response to a complicated issue from a "progressive"? Say it ain't so..................... Followd by meaningless drivel from a cop. And an even less important attempt at an insult by an ******.I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lucky... 0 #22 September 9, 2010 Quote Check your history. Google Iran Stoning. This isn't new. In Iran it's actually fairly common compared even to other countries under sharia law. No shit, you don't say. I was in the military when we could have gone to war with Iran in the way early 80's; were you alive yet? Funny to read a kid trying to talk over adults . Quote The fact that you want someone to invade over something in sharia law would astound me if I didn't already expect unreasoning ill-conceived "solutions" from you. And me reading that you have no comprehsion skills is typical as well; WHERE DID I STATE OR INFER WE SHOULD GO INVADE IRAN? You nbeo-cons are so funny, one drops a hint and the rest of the lemmings go into mod mentality mode and run with it. Hysterical, yet predictable. Quote Let's see, Iran has the second largest oil reserves in the world? Check. So any attack will be answered by "no blood for oil" by the likes of you (as well as jacking up oil prices). Attacking another country for enforcing their laws? Check. So any attack will be call imperialist action. Attacking for practiong their version of their religion? Check. So it'll look like a war on Islam. Yeah, great reason to attack. I'm not calling for an attack, take a prozac and show me where I stated so. Quote How about you pay attention to issues that affect the security of other nations. Like sponsoring terrorism. Like pursuing nuclear power when they sit on more oil than anyone else in the world except the Saudis. Like constant threats if war against neighbors. Etc etc etc. How about you reading and showing where I inferred, not eevn stated, just inferred we should attack them. Riiiight, I know it's not in your makeup to admit you jumped, so we'll just take it for what it is, now quit trying to play with the adults, kiddo. I'll refresh you: On one hand NATO and/or the US should invade, OTOH why end up in a long, protracted war where thousands of Americans die changing a fucked up place like Iran? See, I illustrate and weigh the possibilities, showing how it would be a bad idea to attack. Quote It's a toughy, but if they go thru with this I say cut em off financially and turn up the heat on the Nukes issue. Then I show what I would do; basic embargo. See, reading really is fundamental. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lucky... 0 #23 September 9, 2010 Quote I would say leave Iran the fuck alone. We've done enough bullshit in the area. Let Israel fuck with them. Yea, Israel would fix that area if we quit protecting them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lucky... 0 #24 September 9, 2010 QuoteHow would lucky feel if Iran came over to the USA and freed us Americans from the government that has been known to take 90% or more of a person's income? And we were the most prosperous when the top marginal rate was in the 90's. An educated person knows the 90% is there as a deterrent to make people, the real Amricans like Beligian, reinvest rather than profit-take. I bet few actually pay the 90% or whatever the top brkt is, they have been counters telling them what to do. Then fascist pigs come along and chop therate and turn the vibale country to shambles as teh profit-take. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lucky... 0 #25 September 9, 2010 Quote Quote How would lucky feel if Iran came over to the USA and freed us Americans from the government that has been known to take 90% or more of a person's income? You need a better tax accountant. Exactly, he/she would tell you to reinvest most profits and keep most of it. Almost no one pays the 90%, that's just to dissuade selling/proifit-taking. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites