normiss 848 #26 September 8, 2010 Interesting point...they were refused a fire permit. Maybe they will just get arrested! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 226 #27 September 8, 2010 Quote Quote What percentage of the muslim population do you know? wanna bet i know more Muslims then you? Its kind of sad that this is even news.We have nut jobs everywhere. Burn what you want just don't cause any forest fires please. Wendy? WOW - you changed your screen name pretty fast! Impressive!I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #28 September 8, 2010 Quote You really can't fix stupid, can ya? Nope... but the New Yorkers can join in the fun for just $332 round trip to JacksonVille FL Roundtrip: from $297.99 + $34.31 taxes & fees = $332.30 2 tickets left at this price! See details 10:10 am Depart New York (LGA) Arrive Jacksonville (JAX) 2:36 pm Fri 10-Sep Duration: 4hr 26mn US Airways 1177 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skipbelt 0 #29 September 8, 2010 Quote I was disappointed that less than 30 people could be a lead story.A plywood sign with crooked lettering.A church with a bank mortgage note in demand for payment NOW.Selling used furniture to make ends meet.Insurance canceled.What an embarrassing joke.We better stop building churches NOW!!!AND mosques ? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jclalor 12 #30 September 8, 2010 Wow, General Petraeus ask that the burning should be discouraged to help protect the lives of American soldiers and the Republican leadership is silent on his comments? Even GWB had a "No comment" So much for supporting the troops. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 848 #31 September 8, 2010 My point exactly. We have no issues with churches, why the sudden outrage with one? We have had no issues with mosques, why the sudden outrage with one? We have lots of issues with muslim extremists, why not with christian extremists? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skipbelt 0 #32 September 8, 2010 Quote My point exactly.We have no issues with churches, why the sudden outrage with one?We have had no issues with mosques, why the sudden outrage with one?We have lots of issues with muslim extremists, why not with christian extremists?one glaring difference is muslim extremists are directed by muslim clerics , christian extremists operate in contravention to christian clerics ! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 848 #33 September 8, 2010 so you missed the part where this koran burning is being lead by an ordained priest. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kennedy 0 #34 September 8, 2010 Quote Well, the Quran hasn't even been burnt yet and this is how they are already reacting in kabul: http://abcnews.go.com/WN/Afghanistan/burn-quran-day-sparks-protests-afghanistan-petraeus-endanger/story?id=11569820 So if they can burn the American flag in the Streets of Kabul, and a Quran hasn't been burnt yet, why can't we burn the Quran? Is only America allowed to be disrespected and protested? Wrong question. Shouldn't you be asking about burning the bible instead of US flags? http://www.foxnews.com/us/2009/10/22/pastor-host-halloween-bible-burning-event/ At least this time the fuckwits are in Florida instead of my state. Not that all the fuckwits have left here, unfortunately. Edit to add: Though to be fair, I did google Muslim burn bible. It wasn't hard to find results. I think the difference some folks are trying to point out is that no one is hearing bishops call for holy war. Unfortunately, a bunch of fuckwits (some calling themslwvws Christian) ARE out the attacking Muslims and mosques and intentionally doing things to piss of the fanatics.witty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1* Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnRich 4 #35 September 8, 2010 The double standards from some of the respondents here are simply amazing. With the case of the ground-zero mosque, according to these folks, all the opponents should just shut up and go home, because the muslims have a constitutional right to build a mosque. And the fact that it's being located in a culturally sensitive area where many don't want it, is unimportant. And yet these same people have no respect for the constitutional free speech right of this pastor to express his views in his own way. Furthermore, the fact that he's doing it in an insensitive manner, makes him an idiot and a demon. There's no concern for his constitutional rights, and no defense of the manner in which he chooses to express himself. In order to be consistent, these double-standard guys should be defending the pastor's right to burn the Quran if he wishes, simply because it's his right, and if anyone doesn't like it, well then tough luck. Gosh, isn't it amazing how the worm turns depending upon whose side they're on. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 2 #36 September 8, 2010 Quote Quote If I lived in the area I'd probably try to get as many people as possible to join me in sitting on their lawn. Yeah, we might get arrested for trespassing, but it might make it clear that there are a decent number of people willing to stand up for tolerance. And the average Muslim (at least among the ones I know) IS moderate. You don't read about them in the news, so I guess some folks don't figure they exist.Wendy P. What percentage of the muslim population do you know? You ask a lot of really daft questions. That was one of them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 848 #37 September 8, 2010 I for one have said just that. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skipbelt 0 #38 September 8, 2010 Quote so you missed the part where this koran burning is being lead by an ordained priest.maybe an ordained minister , but not a priest , surely , and don't call me surely , really not too sure about ordained either , ordained by who/whom ? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #39 September 8, 2010 Quote The double standards from some of the respondents here are simply amazing. With the case of the ground-zero mosque, according to these folks, all the opponents should just shut up and go home, because the muslims have a constitutional right to build a mosque. And the fact that it's being located in a culturally sensitive area where many don't want it, is unimportant. And yet these same people have no respect for the constitutional free speech right of this pastor to express his views in his own way. Furthermore, the fact that he's doing it in an insensitive manner, just makes him an idiot. There's no concern for his constitutional rights, and no defense of the manner in which he expresses himself. In order to be consistent, these double-standard guys should be defending the pastor's right to burn the Quran if he wishes, because it's his right, and if anyone doesn't like it, well then tough luck. Gosh, isn't it amazing how the worm turns depending upon whose side they're on. By all means, go exercise your constitutional rights Saturday in Gainsville FL...... not that far of a drive for you at all. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ridestrong 1 #40 September 8, 2010 Pastor Jones has the constitutional right to burn qurans... but does that make it "right"? Imam Feisal Abdul Rauf has the constitutional right to build the mosque, but does that make it "right"? One might say that they are both offending people? Perhaps both should listen to those that they are offending and reconsider their actions as to not create further animosity.*I am not afraid of dying... I am afraid of missing life.* ----Disclaimer: I don't know shit about skydiving.---- Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,067 #41 September 8, 2010 >With the case of the ground-zero mosque, according to these folks, all >the opponents should just shut up and go home . . . Nope, they can say whatever they like. >And yet these same people have no respect for the constitutional free >speech right of this pastor to express his views in his own way. Nope, he can say whatever he likes. >In order to be consistent, these double-standard guys should be >defending the pastor's right to burn the Quran if he wishes, because it's >his right, and if anyone doesn't like it, well then tough luck. Sounds like you're the one with the double standard here. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 2 #42 September 8, 2010 Quote Pastor Jones has the constitutional right to burn qurans... but does that make it "right"? Imam Feisal Abdul Rauf has the constitutional right to build the mosque, but does that make it "right"? One might say that they are both offending people? Perhaps both should listen to those that they are offending and reconsider their actions as to not create further animosity. A few minutes ago in the other Quran-burning thread, I responded to an almost identical comment by noting that equating the burning of Qurans with the building of mosques is completely bone-headed. It still is. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 848 #43 September 8, 2010 So, as a nation, we should move beyond legality and constitutional law and simply do "what is right"? Yea, there's a definitive gray area. That will be much easier. "Don't do ANYTHING that might offend SOMEONE." Talk about "bone headed". Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ridestrong 1 #44 September 8, 2010 Quote Quote Pastor Jones has the constitutional right to burn qurans... but does that make it "right"? Imam Feisal Abdul Rauf has the constitutional right to build the mosque, but does that make it "right"? One might say that they are both offending people? Perhaps both should listen to those that they are offending and reconsider their actions as to not create further animosity. A few minutes ago in the other Quran-burning thread, I responded to an almost identical comment by noting that equating the burning of Qurans with the building of mosques is completely bone-headed. It still is. ...and did you give a good reason for it or was it as "well put" as that one.*I am not afraid of dying... I am afraid of missing life.* ----Disclaimer: I don't know shit about skydiving.---- Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skipbelt 0 #45 September 8, 2010 Quote Pastor Jones has the constitutional right to burn qurans... but does that make it "right"?Imam Feisal Abdul Rauf has the constitutional right to build the mosque, but does that make it "right"?One might say that they are both offending people?Perhaps both should listen to those that they are offending and reconsider their actions as to not create further animosity.this is good stuff right here, kudos and BZ !!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ridestrong 1 #47 September 8, 2010 Quote "Don't do ANYTHING that might offend SOMEONE." Talk about "bone headed". One thing is for sure... we are definitely way too overly PC these days, as to not 'hurt anyone's feelings', it's ridiculous.*I am not afraid of dying... I am afraid of missing life.* ----Disclaimer: I don't know shit about skydiving.---- Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 848 #48 September 8, 2010 While I clearly cannot disagree with where we have seem to taken some of the extremes of this, at the same time, that refusal to offend has been extended constitutionally in regards to ALL religions, has it not? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skipbelt 0 #49 September 8, 2010 Quote While I clearly cannot disagree with where we have seem to taken some of the extremes of this, at the same time, that refusal to offend has been extended constitutionally in regards to ALL religions, has it not?i am reminded of the sicilian in the princess bride ! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kennedy 0 #50 September 8, 2010 Just watch out for the iocane powder, unless you spent the last few years building up an immunity.witty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1* Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
