Whu is it ok for Muslims to burn the American Flag and not ok to burn the Quran?

[dgskydive 0]

Some wacky Baptists want to burn some Qurans on Saturday. The American flag is burned all the time in Muslim dominated countries.

We have freedom of religion in this country. We have freedom of speech AND freedom of expression. These guys are just expressing themselves. Our Govt. is asking them not to do it. We don't want to upset Muslim nations. We don't wany to endanger out soldiers they say.

Really? Or own Govt. asking its own citizens to NOT to exercise their Freedom of Expression so that we dont upset people in another country.

Dom

[normiss 801]

Never realized the American flag had religious meaning.
As much as it means in my heart, it's clearly not the same to some people as religious writings purportedly handed down "directly from above".

I don't see a similarity.

[jakee 1,498]

I'm not sure anyone (apart from crazy muslims, obviously) is suggesting that it's ok to burn flags but not korans. I think most people would look at the two in exactly the same way - you're allowed to do it but you're basically just being a dick.

Although I can't help thinking that it would be nice if more people would burn a few korans here and there, and publish a lot more cartoons and then maybe the crowdas of reactionary muslim lunatics would eventually get bored of burning embassies and trying to assassinate people every time their precious little feeling get hurt.

Do you want to have an ideagasm?

[loumeinhart 0]

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Really? Or own Govt. asking its own citizens to NOT to exercise their Freedom of Expression so that we dont upset people in another country.

1. a thread already exists
2. you have to provide an example of how a local/state/federal govt asked the preacher to not burn the q. (I've been missing the news)
3. it's complex. I happen to believe that we are 'better' than 'them'. We are above setting fire to books. Then again our rights are protected, remember the American flag has been burnt, shit on, spit on, torn, and hung upside down right here in the U.S.

[dgskydive 0]

Sorry for typos. On my phone and sometimes auto-correct is not my friend.

These Baptist just want to exercise their freedom of expression. Our Govt. is asking them not to.

The Muslims just want to exercise their freedom of religion. Citizens are just asking them to build it somewhere else.

Dom

[captain1976 0]

Changing to another thread

You live more in the few minutes of skydiving than many people live in their lifetime

[scruffy 0]

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you're allowed to do it but you're basically just being a dick.

There's a lot of that going around today.

Peace, love and hoppiness

[normiss 801]

Except for your comparing Christian extremists to conservative Muslims.

And you seem to want to hold it against extreme Muslims in comparison to conservative Christians.

apples and oranges and such...

Not to mention the government has not asked this "church" to not burn the khoran, saying in fact it is constitutional.

[dgskydive 0]

http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/ap/top/all/7190534.html

Just watching CSPAN. The white house Deputy Director of Public Relations (i think that was his title) was visibly upset when a reporter asked him why the Federal Govt. was pressuring Americans to not exercise their rights. This white house spokesman told him it was against American principles to do this. Since when is exercising your constitutional rights against American principles?

Dom

[billvon 2,997]

Nope. It's legal to burn flags and Korans. Neither is really "OK" - most people who do either are just being dicks.

[dgskydive 0]

Your wrong. I just watched a spokesman for the federal govt. Ask them not to do this. He also hoped that politicians and others would ask them to stop as we

Dom

[grimmie 186]

The Pentagon is worried about the backlash against our troops, and a rally cry for the Jihad.

[dgskydive 0]

There ya go Bill. Just like religious freedom allows for the Mosque to be built. Their just being dicks to build It there.

Just like they have right to burn the Quran. In doing so they are being dicks.

Dom

[normiss 801]

Your[sic]'re reading what you want.

Per: VOA News

Administration officials say the Florida pastor and his followers are within their constitutional rights to burn a Koran, just as U.S. anti-war protestors have burned American flags at demonstrations in the past.

You may need to research the history and position of Voice of America for perspective.

[dgskydive 0]

Yes Rich they are. So am I.

But this what a lot of people fear. We are starting to ask Americans to not exercise their rights so as not to upset Islam. What's next? Our women should cover up if they are within view of a Mosque? No kissing within 100ft of a Mosque? It may upset Muslims worldwide and we don't want to do that now do we.

Dom

[normiss 801]

or - "God forbid" we have a national vote in order for me to get approval for a tool shed out back because someone found out I was going to store an heirloom bible my grandmother gave to me that she brought back from the holy land herself!

These are all great examples of universally applying law and the constitution NOT emotion to what goes on in this country.

YMMV

[dgskydive 0]

I'm not reading what I want. I just WATCHED AND HEARD a White House spokesman say he wanted politicians to speak out over the next few days in order to get them not do do this.

Dom

[normiss 801]

Outside of a fire marshal / legality issue with how the actual fire goes down, much like a lot of what politician say, it's just hot air and not worth listening to.
He's within his constitutional rights.

[Andy9o8 2]

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Sorry for typos. On my phone and sometimes auto-correct is not my friend.

These Baptist just want to exercise their freedom of expression. Our Govt. is asking them not to.

The Muslims just want to exercise their freedom of religion. Citizens are just asking them to build it somewhere else.

Equating the burning of Qur'ans with the building of a mosque is completely bone-headed.

[JohnRich 4]

Because extremist muslims threaten to kill us if we don't behave in the manner they wish. So we must submit to their threats and not exercise our free expression rights as Americans, in order to appease them, in the hopes that they then won't kill us. In this manner, all they have to do to destroy our constitutional rights is to continue threatening to kill us. And the more we give in, they more they'll be encouraged to expand their threats, to get us to do what they want.

On the other hand, it's okay for muslims to burn the American flag, because while we may not like the symbolism, we respect their right to express themselves in that manner. And instead of threatening to kill all of their kind for it, we just say; "Eh, what assholes."

And yet, somehow this laid-back American reaction makes us the bad guys.

I hope that clears up this matter.

"If ye love wealth greater than liberty, the tranquility of servitude greater than the animating contest for freedom, go home from us in peace. We seek not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you; and may posterity forget that ye were once our countrymen."
- Samuel Adams

"Americans used to roar like lions for liberty. Now we bleat like sheep for security."
- Norman Vincent Peale

[dgskydive 0]

Bone headed is not seeing that this threads is about Rights.

Our Govt. should not be pressuring groups into give up those rights. No matter who they upset. Especially those that think so little of our rights that they burn our flag.

Dom

[billvon 2,997]

>So we must submit to their threats . . .

No, we don't. Feel free to burn whatever you like.

>it's okay for muslims to burn the American flag . . .

No, it's not okay. But like everyone else, they can burn whatever they want.

[Andy9o8 2]

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Our Govt. should not be pressuring groups into give up those rights.

But the govt is supposed to provide some moral leadership. And it's not pressuring anyone to "give up rights"; it's pressuring a small group of assholes to behave decently and not act like assholes.

[KidWicked 0]

"Well they did it first!" is a playground excuse at about the intellectual level of a five year old. (i.e. they burned a flag so we should burn a book). Is the US not above that, REALLY?

If you burn the Koran then you know that someone is going to use that fact to use as propaganda over there, so why give them that for free?

Why is it not that simple?

Coreece: "You sound like some skinheads I know, but your prejudice is with Christians, not niggers..."

[normiss 801]

We have rights TO burn the flag!

Why does it change when another group does it to express their thoughts?

It appears to work better for "them" than it does "us".