Benedict XVI describes paedophilia as an 'illness'

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But still strongly condemns it:

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[masterrig 1]

The Pope should condemn it. It's incurable. A lot of folks think that pedophilia 'is' curable but it is not. I've read studies of prisoners, locked-up for that crime in prisons throughout this country. They were asked what they would do upon release. The over-whelming response from them was; "Find a kid!'
Those priests who molested kids should be locked-up for the rest of their lives!


Chuck

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I totally agree with you. All Paedophilies should be imprisoned for their entire life and die in prison. It is a disease and it has no cure they will reoffend.

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Hrm...

I have pity on them considering it's not a choice and it's the way they are. I am aware it's no choice and that they can't control their desires. Which is why I'm against the public "KILL EM ALL" attitude towards em.

I agree they should be removed from society to protect children. But I also think that more effort needs to go into trying to rehabilitate through psychology. And more effort needs to go into trying to find ways to cure it, many diseases were thought to have no cure until people studied them more.

Less of a tar and lynching attitude towards them and more pity. Many of them kill themselves because of the way they think, they hate the fact that they can't control it and don't want to be like that. Maybe a big island in the middle of the ocean would be a nice place to send them all to.

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But I also think that more effort needs to go into trying to rehabilitate through psychology

It would be great if it worked but it doesn't. As for the island idea...Hmmm...I believe Robben Island is currently free.

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Hrm...

I have pity on them considering it's not a choice and it's the way they are. I am aware it's no choice and that they can't control their desires. Which is why I'm against the public "KILL EM ALL" attitude towards em.

I agree they should be removed from society to protect children. But I also think that more effort needs to go into trying to rehabilitate through psychology. And more effort needs to go into trying to find ways to cure it, many diseases were thought to have no cure until people studied them more.

Less of a tar and lynching attitude towards them and more pity. Many of them kill themselves because of the way they think, they hate the fact that they can't control it and don't want to be like that. Maybe a big island in the middle of the ocean would be a nice place to send them all to.

I can understand your sympathy towards pedophiles but therapy, psychiatry, medication and all that has been tried to 'cure' pedophiles... it just doesn't work. All that can be done for them is keep them locked-up and away from children.


Chuck

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I'd at least support a special jail for them then. Considering if you're a pedophile in most jails you're either constantly raped, tortured or murdered. And since they're seen as the scum of the earth, no one really cares about what happens to them in jail.

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Why, should they get 'special treatment'? They are criminals, just like theives, murderers, rapists and serial killers. Every other prisoner is subject to the same things and as far as I'm concerned are 'sick', also.


Chuck

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I'd at least support a special jail for them then. Considering if you're a pedophile in most jails you're either constantly raped, tortured or murdered. And since they're seen as the scum of the earth, no one really cares about what happens to them in jail.

I guess Orange County CA cares about them...
http://dailycaller.com/2010/09/15/california-rewards-child-molester/

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like theives, murderers, rapists and serial killers

Not 'like' they actually ARE Thieves (they steal a childs childhood and innocene) they ARE rapists and some actually ARE murderers (although not all of course) actually the more I think about it the more i have no sympathy with them in the slightest.

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Apparently they are wired that way, just as most of us are wired for heterosexuality. It's a bad way to be wired, because we consider children to be beyond the pale (note: I agree with this).

They can't change how they're wired. They can change their behavior, but if someone is both wired that way and has a strong sex drive, I'd bet it would be incredibly difficult for them to overcome.

It's a tough situation, but protecting children is more important than letting folks be wired that way in peace.

Wendy P.

There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown)

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Exactly the issue, well put. This is why some places are committing sexual predators to mental health institutions because they have served their prison time but still present a clear and present danger to society.

Murderers and thugs, druggies and theives, they all can conceivably change or be changed. Molesters and rapists, not so much.

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Hrm...

I have pity on them considering it's not a choice and it's the way they are. I am aware it's no choice and that they can't control their desires. Which is why I'm against the public "KILL EM ALL" attitude towards em.

I agree they should be removed from society to protect children. But I also think that more effort needs to go into trying to rehabilitate through psychology. And more effort needs to go into trying to find ways to cure it, many diseases were thought to have no cure until people studied them more.

Less of a tar and lynching attitude towards them and more pity. Many of them kill themselves because of the way they think, they hate the fact that they can't control it and don't want to be like that. Maybe a big island in the middle of the ocean would be a nice place to send them all to.

Personally I am good with a SMALL island... a couple military bases on nearby islands to insure the fuckers never get off their own island. I was thinking Alaid Island. It has a Coast Guard base to the west on Attu Island... and an interesting Air Force Base just to the east on Shemya Island.

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like theives, murderers, rapists and serial killers

Not 'like' they actually ARE Thieves (they steal a childs childhood and innocene) they ARE rapists and some actually ARE murderers (although not all of course) actually the more I think about it the more i have no sympathy with them in the slightest.

You're right! Let 'em get some of their own medicine in the slammer... forever. All this 'bleedin' hearts' stuff about rehabilitation doesn't work with pedophiles and people need to realize that.


Chuck

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Hrm...

I have pity on them considering it's not a choice and it's the way they are. I am aware it's no choice and that they can't control their desires. Which is why I'm against the public "KILL EM ALL" attitude towards em.

I agree they should be removed from society to protect children. But I also think that more effort needs to go into trying to rehabilitate through psychology. And more effort needs to go into trying to find ways to cure it, many diseases were thought to have no cure until people studied them more.

Less of a tar and lynching attitude towards them and more pity. Many of them kill themselves because of the way they think, they hate the fact that they can't control it and don't want to be like that. Maybe a big island in the middle of the ocean would be a nice place to send them all to.

Not enough of them kill themselves! You obviously have no children ,to think so liberal,!

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But still strongly condemns it:

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Slightly biased

"Strongly condemns" ? Oh my! Not strongly condemning. Not that!

Nothing more than the words, posturing, and BS that the CC has been doing all along.

If he wants to actually protect children from these monsters,
then he should turn them over to the police for arrest.

Of course, that would be the moral and right thing to do,
so... not expecting that Ever.

So, all the Catholics in England should stop contributing
money to their coffers until this is done.
I'll bet the pope would throw them under the bus inside a month.

"We have the sanctity of the confessional to consider
and can't expose... what ? No money ? Here they are."

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Just one more strike against Benedict personally and Papal Infallibility in general. The phrase "Power corrupts, but absolute power corrupts absolutely", was actually an editorial response in 1870 (or 1871) to the First Vatican Council's proclamation of the doctrine of Papal Infallibility.

Benedict, or Cardinal Ratzinger, or "the Rat" has been a problem all along. He's been the watch dog of the Church's ideology for the last few decades under Pope JP II. He is the ONLY Pope to have ever served in the Nazi Wermacht. Though to this defence, I will say Ratzinger (his real name) stayed out of the Hitler Youth on a concientious objection. He was drafted at age 16 as a Flakhilfer, helping to load flak into anti aircraft guns protecting an industrial site - across the street from the Dachau concentration camp, which supplied slave labor to the factory his flak guns were protecting. A 16 year old of his considerable intellect simply had to know what what was going on with the work force in the factory he was protecting. By the time he was drafted at age 18, he was still in boot camp when Hitler shot himself and the Nazis surrendered. But on these counts alone, he should never had been elected Pope. So much for the claim of guidance from the Holy Spirit.

So if this guy could load shot into flak guns protecting a factory that used slave labor from the Dachau concentration camp, is it any suprise he could cover up and sidestep charges against Catholic clergy accused of RAPING children ? He should be seen not only as a disgrace to his Church, but as a good reason to finally cut the bullshit about absolute Papal authority. And I say that as a recovering ex-Catholic.

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But still strongly condemns it:

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Chemical castration should be first on the list for any person convicted of a sex crime against a child.



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chemical_castration

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I have pity on them considering it's not a choice and it's the way they are. I am aware it's no choice and that they can't control their desires.

Maybe some of them ARE sick (in a medical or psychiatric way) but I'm sure that most of them are just criminals. Humans, unlike animals, have reason and common sense, and whatever your desire is you can say NO. That is, you can if you want to.

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Benedict XVI describes paedophilia as an 'illness'

and some describe the Catholic church as an 'organized crime syndicate', me included

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Hrm...

I have pity on them considering it's not a choice and it's the way they are. I am aware it's no choice and that they can't control their desires. Which is why I'm against the public "KILL EM ALL" attitude towards em.

I agree they should be removed from society to protect children. But I also think that more effort needs to go into trying to rehabilitate through psychology. And more effort needs to go into trying to find ways to cure it, many diseases were thought to have no cure until people studied them more.

Less of a tar and lynching attitude towards them and more pity. Many of them kill themselves because of the way they think, they hate the fact that they can't control it and don't want to be like that. Maybe a big island in the middle of the ocean would be a nice place to send them all to.

Not enough of them kill themselves! You obviously have no children ,to think so liberal,!

There's a place in New Mexico where 'offending' priests are sent by the Church to 'lay low' till the 'heat' dies down. After awhile, the priests are sent to other parishes. There's no telling, how much 'hush money' has been spent by the Catholic Church to cover 'offending' priests.


Chuck

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We need to get to the 'bottom' [sic] of this

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Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome

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Just providing some balance.

[masterrig 1]

You bet!


Chuck

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Benedict, or Cardinal Ratzinger, or "the Rat" has been a problem all along. He's been the watch dog of the Church's ideology for the last few decades under Pope JP II. He is the ONLY Pope to have ever served in the Nazi Wermacht. Though to this defence, I will say Ratzinger (his real name) stayed out of the Hitler Youth on a concientious objection. He was drafted at age 16 as a Flakhilfer, helping to load flak into anti aircraft guns protecting an industrial site - across the street from the Dachau concentration camp, which supplied slave labor to the factory his flak guns were protecting. A 16 year old of his considerable intellect simply had to know what what was going on with the work force in the factory he was protecting. By the time he was drafted at age 18, he was still in boot camp when Hitler shot himself and the Nazis surrendered. But on these counts alone, he should never had been elected Pope. So much for the claim of guidance from the Holy Spirit.

I'm happy to give him the benefit of the doubt on the Nazi thing. If not I'd have to believe that everyone drafted into the Wermacht at that time was evil, which is obviously not the case (although it would have been better if someone who claims to be the moral compass of the entire world had the gumption to go underground, even as a teenager).

No, it's his record as a Cardinal that shows him to be an ultra-right wing bastard intent on preserving all of the churches most restrictive and damaging dictats.

Do you want to have an ideagasm?