Lucky... 0 #26 September 20, 2010 Quote Quote Quote Quote Quote Holy crap, a witch who thinks mice have human brains. Next thing you know she will be claiming there's 60 States in America. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EpGH02DtIws Izzat the best you got? It was a funny gaffe on Obama's part, to be sure; but in his case, everyone who is not a complete moron understands that it was a slip brought on by the fatigue of the campaign trail. I'd stack up Obama's intellect, education and professional accomplishments against those of either O'Donnell or Palin any day of the week. Right..all Republicans are dumb and all Democrats are smart. We get you. Maybe she was just high on a little pot when she said it. You get an "A" and a little Gold Star for defending Obama. He's going to be needing you in the future as his "accomplishments" add up. And anyone who disagrees is a complete moron. Yea, his accomplishments look horrible so far: http://www.bea.gov/newsreleases/national/gdp/gdp_glance.htm http://data.bls.gov/PDQ/servlet/SurveyOutputServlet?data_tool=latest_numbers&series_id=LNS14000000 Well no shitYep, just shows if you keep pissing money away there is some temporary blips. Brilliant concept. Problem is it has to be paid back. The LW morons can't seem to wrap their pea sized brains around this concept. Great job your moron is doing. http://cboblog.cbo.gov/?p=1351 Using your source: - The federal government incurred a deficit of nearly $1.3 trillion in the first 11 months of fiscal year 2010, CBO estimates in its latest Monthly Budget Review—a total that is about $100 billion less than the shortfall recorded through August of last year. - Outlays are about 2 percent less than they were in the first 11 months of 2009, whereas revenues have increased by 1 1/2 percent. OK, so the deficit is down from the previous year, outlays are down and revs are up; not sure you've built a case against me. But keep it up anyway . With all that, considering the mess Obama inherited, what did you expect? Did you expect a 2-week turnaround? Or are you using the mess created by your side to slam the people who are fixing it? The economy is repairing; the Republicans have shown you can hammer the economy is short time, but it always takes a long time to repair, which makes sense. This is the same rhetoric the RW laid down when FDR inherited a POS; it's taking too long. Well then tell your party to quit fucking it up and we can avoid this shit. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lucky... 0 #27 September 20, 2010 QuoteQuoteYeah, the professional politicians have done one hell of a job with this country haven't they ! DO NOT REELECT ANY ONE ! It's the only way that these bastards and bastardettes will learn they work for us. While a popular sentiment for better than the past 100 years, it's too extreme. If sitting politicians are never re-elected, institutional memory and competence at the managerial levels of government will always be at the rookie level. But capable management needs to have some experienced hands at the helm. The better solution is a balancing of competing interests: re-elect people who have shown to have a reasonable level of competence, but have term limits to keep them from becoming too entrenched, and to maintain a supply of fresh blood in the system. Don't take the purveyor's of that rhetoric as serious, when they say out with teh incumbents, they mean out with the majority; the Dems. They don't really mean all incumbents. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryoder 1,590 #28 September 20, 2010 Quote http://nymag.com/daily/intel/2010/09/christine_odonnell_will_save_u.html Quote "American scientific companies are crossbreeding humans and animals and coming up with mice with fully functioning human brains," warned Delaware senate candidate Christine O'Donnell on the O'Reilly Factor in 2007. People get the government they deserve. She'll get elected. Someone forgot to tell her that Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy was fiction."There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,489 #29 September 20, 2010 Quotehttp://nymag.com/daily/intel/2010/09/christine_odonnell_will_save_u.html Quote"American scientific companies are crossbreeding humans and animals and coming up with mice with fully functioning human brains," warned Delaware senate candidate Christine O'Donnell on the O'Reilly Factor in 2007. People get the government they deserve. She'll get elected. While this is both hilarious and worryingly dumb it's one of those things that's so stupid it's pretty much harmless. It's so off the wall that almost everyone who hears it goes "Um, really?" It's the seemingly more down to earth stuff, for instance Palin's "I found out they're wasting money researching fruit-flies!" schtick. That's the kind of ignorance that gets a lot of heads nodding.Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,489 #30 September 20, 2010 QuoteHoly crap, a witch who thinks mice have human brains. Next thing you know she will be claiming there's 60 States in America. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EpGH02DtIws While they're obviously not comparable situations, I do have to thank you for crediting him with the mistake he actually made. Most people using that one make out that he said there were 57 States, which obviously isn't true but sounds so much worse.Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #31 September 20, 2010 QuoteQuoteHoly crap, a witch who thinks mice have human brains. Next thing you know she will be claiming there's 60 States in America. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EpGH02DtIws While they're obviously not comparable situations, I do have to thank you for crediting him with the mistake he actually made. Most people using that one make out that he said there were 57 States, which obviously isn't true but sounds so much worse. Believe it or not, I didn't post that to slam Obama. I just wanted to show that everyone makes mistakes and says dumb shit and I also needed a good laugh because I knew someone would defend it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
winsor 236 #32 September 20, 2010 Look, you guys are being harsh. It is rather easy to establish that quite a few mice are fully her intellectual equal. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,026 #33 October 19, 2010 QuoteLook, you guys are being harsh. It is rather easy to establish that quite a few mice are fully her intellectual equal. www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/oct/19/christine-odonnell-church-and-state-gaffe I'm not so sure of that. She seems to be a complete moron.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
winsor 236 #34 October 19, 2010 QuoteQuoteLook, you guys are being harsh. It is rather easy to establish that quite a few mice are fully her intellectual equal. www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/oct/19/christine-odonnell-church-and-state-gaffe I'm not so sure of that. She seems to be a complete moron. If so, she would fit right in on Capitol Hill. BSBD, Winsor Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,990 #35 October 20, 2010 >If so, she would fit right in on Capitol Hill. Yep. (see attached) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 220 #36 October 20, 2010 Quote>If so, she would fit right in on Capitol Hill. Yep. (see attached) [Paul Quade Voice]Can't you come up with something original yet?[/PQV]I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skipbelt 0 #37 October 20, 2010 allen greene ! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 220 #38 October 20, 2010 Quote allen greene ! BWAAHAHAHAHA I think you meant ALVIN GreeneThat interview was priceless. He did soil the good name of Turtle, and I will probably never live this down, but showing the bias of the commentator and the idiocy and ineptatude of the Democratic Candidate is worth it.Here is the interview.I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pirana 0 #39 October 20, 2010 QuoteYeah, the professional politicians have done one hell of a job with this country haven't they ! DO NOT REELECT ANY ONE ! It's the only way that these bastards and bastardettes will learn they work for us. V.O.T.E. Vote Out The Elected. As a group, they have failed us miserably. Kick them all to the curb. Send the message, hand every single national elected official their departure ticket. Let's see if that wakes up the collective group of assholes known as politicians." . . . the lust for power can be just as completely satisfied by suggesting people into loving their servitude as by flogging them and kicking them into obedience." -- Aldous Huxley Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pirana 0 #40 October 20, 2010 QuoteDon't take the purveyor's of that rhetoric as serious, when they say out with teh incumbents, they mean out with the majority; the Dems. They don't really mean all incumbents. Can't speak for all of "they" but I do mean all incumbents. A Dem and a Rep are just 2 flavors of the same basic shit sandwich. They all pull the same favor-trading, two-faced, bully pulpit, back room pork dealing shit; and as a group they are despicable for their lack of principles while on the job. I am aware that at least some of them are decent people in private; but my observation is that they all digress to assinine irresponsible behavior in their elected roles. Kick them all to the curb. Those waiting in the wings ought to get the message, and most of them will have been close enough to the action long enough to be effective - without engaging in the unprincipled and irresponsible behaviors of their predecessors. The fear that they won't know what to do is lame. They are the next wave that will supply the vast majority of elected officials for the near future anyway. The difference is they will be operating with the knowledge that if they play the same old games, they will be kicked aside next." . . . the lust for power can be just as completely satisfied by suggesting people into loving their servitude as by flogging them and kicking them into obedience." -- Aldous Huxley Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 2 #41 October 20, 2010 QuoteVote Out The Elected. As a group, they have failed us miserably. Kick them all to the curb. Send the message, hand every single national elected official their departure ticket. Let's see if that wakes up the collective group of assholes known as politicians. I understand the feeling behind this idea. But understand: this sentiment has repeatedly been expressed ever since the concept of modern democratically-elected public officials has existed; which is to say, at least since well back into the 19th Century. I suggest that your sentiment is better expressed as a call for term limits. Like it or not, there is value to experience and institutional memory in the public sector, as much as it quite obviously has value in the private sector. "Kick em all out", even if it could be done, would only result in government being run by nothing but rookies. And as chronically under-competent as the public sector often is, that would only increase the level of under-competence and chronic screw-ups by a factor of many-fold. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,026 #42 October 20, 2010 QuoteQuoteYeah, the professional politicians have done one hell of a job with this country haven't they ! DO NOT REELECT ANY ONE ! It's the only way that these bastards and bastardettes will learn they work for us. V.O.T.E. Vote Out The Elected. As a group, they have failed us miserably. Kick them all to the curb. Send the message, hand every single national elected official their departure ticket. Let's see if that wakes up the collective group of assholes known as politicians. How do you feel about a challenger, who, for example, is totally clueless about what is in the 1st Amendment to the US Constitution?... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GeorgiaDon 362 #43 October 20, 2010 QuoteLike it or not, there is value to experience and institutional memory in the public sector, as much as it quite obviously has value in the private sector. "Kick em all out", even if it could be done, would only result in government being run by nothing but rookies. Actually, I think there would still be "institutional memory", but it would all be in the form of the unelected bureaucrats who do the day-to-day business of running government. Politicians set policy (or they should), but much of the actual wording of proposed laws, as well as regulatory rules governing how those laws are actually enforced, is done by bureaucrats, and their influence would be increased if there is no "institutional memory" on the part of the policy makers. Don_____________________________________ Tolerance is the cost we must pay for our adventure in liberty. (Dworkin, 1996) “Education is not filling a bucket, but lighting a fire.” (Yeats) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lawrocket 3 #44 October 20, 2010 QuoteHow do you feel about a challenger, who, for example, is totally clueless about what is in the 1st Amendment to the US Constitution? The Constitution merely prohibits the the government's establishment of religion and the prohibition of free exercise of same. I don't agree with a large number of O'Donnell's thoughts, but "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof" doesn't say "wall between church and state." Indeed, there has been a lot of law regarding excessive entanglement, etc., seeking to construe what this mean. The "wall" is not impenetrable. But, most candidates and even congressperson's don't know what's in the Constitution. Take, for example, Chris Coons. In debate, candidate Christine O'Donnell asked candidate Coons to state the "five freedoms guaranteed in the First Amendment." Coons named the separation fo church and state - I guess he thinks it's important. But, he failed to come up with: (1) Freedom of Speech; (2) Freedom of the Press; (3) Tight to Assemble; and (4) Right to Petition. So I guess Coons wasn't "totally clueless about what is in the First Amendment to the Constitution." He's just "almost totally clueless." Which candidate is more ignorant, clueless or otherwise incompetent on the issue? It's a tough call... My wife is hotter than your wife. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #45 October 20, 2010 Quote Quote How do you feel about a challenger, who, for example, is totally clueless about what is in the 1st Amendment to the US Constitution? The Constitution merely prohibits the the government's establishment of religion and the prohibition of free exercise of same. I don't agree with a large number of O'Donnell's thoughts, but "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof" doesn't say "wall between church and state." Indeed, there has been a lot of law regarding excessive entanglement, etc., seeking to construe what this mean. The "wall" is not impenetrable. But, most candidates and even congressperson's don't know what's in the Constitution. Take, for example, Chris Coons. In debate, candidate Christine O'Donnell asked candidate Coons to state the "five freedoms guaranteed in the First Amendment." Coons named the separation fo church and state - I guess he thinks it's important. But, he failed to come up with: (1) Freedom of Speech; (2) Freedom of the Press; (3) Tight to Assemble; and (4) Right to Petition. So I guess Coons wasn't "totally clueless about what is in the First Amendment to the Constitution." He's just "almost totally clueless." Which candidate is more ignorant, clueless or otherwise incompetent on the issue? It's a tough call... Hey this is not the DADT thread They should have the right to assemble whether tight or not Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tkhayes 348 #46 October 20, 2010 I am sending her campaign some money - in hopes that she keeps talking. The more she opens her mouth, the fewer people that will vote the GOP back in...... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DaVinci 0 #47 October 21, 2010 Quote Izzat the best you got? It was a funny gaffe on Obama's part, to be sure Elementary school kids know there are only 50 States. Quote I'd stack up Obama's intellect, education and professional accomplishments against those of either O'Donnell or Palin any day of the week. Good thing he is not running against O'Donnell! Lets not forget that Coons only came up with 1 of the 5 in the 1st.... She knew all 5. I fond it funny that you shrill for Obama making a mistake on a general knowledge question (50 States), but think a misstatement by another candidate is cause for crucifixion. Especially since the words "separation of Church and State" is NOT in the Constitution. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 2 #48 October 21, 2010 First of all, you're responding to a month-old post; but whatever. Be that as it may, Obama's smart and O'Donnell's a fucking twit. Period. Anyhow, what are you complaining about? People have always found comfort in circle-jerking their ignorance; and I did acknowledge in my OP that the moronitude will probably vote her in. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #49 October 21, 2010 QuoteFirst of all, you're responding to a month-old post; but whatever. Be that as it may, Obama's smart and O'Donnell's a fucking twit. Period. Anyhow, what are you complaining about? People have always found comfort in circle-jerking their ignorance; and I did acknowledge in my OP that the moronitude will probably vote her in. Oh I don't think the morons will voter her into office.. but there will be a large turnout of her like minded imbecile supporters Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skyrad 0 #50 October 21, 2010 Quote Human-mouse chimera studies were reported in 2004 that involved the injection of human neural stem cells into developing mouse brains — something different from crossbreeding — resulting in brains that were one percent human, Then they taught the mouse to type and he now reguarly posts on SC in between reading the Strategy Page.When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites