Prior23 0 #176 October 26, 2010 QuoteQuoteQuoteconcrete proof mentioned toward evolutionThis site has a pretty good discussion of specific evidence, including this video. Wendy P. Thanks Wendy I will take a look when I get a chance At least you offered up something. Marc Did you ignore my post where I posted a website as well as the references that the site came from!?!?B.A.S.E. #1734 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Prior23 0 #177 October 26, 2010 QuoteOkay you asked me for the evidence. So here is one place to look for it. http://talkorigins.org/faqs/comdesc/ And these are all cited from prestigious universities and scholars so don't try to denote my source or try to say "ohhh you can't speak for yourself". I already know you're going to say it, I told you I'm not an evolutionary biologist but this is some of the best evidence out there if you really are interested in reading it. Do not respond to me unless you have something to say about what is in the link I sent you because you asked for evidence so you can't just ignore me after I give it to you. References American Association for the Advancement of Science (1990) Science for All Americans. http://www.project2061.org/tools/sfaaol/sfaatoc.htm Darwin, C. (1872) The Origin of Species. Sixth Edition. The Modern Library, New York. Dawkins, R. (1996) The Blind Watchmaker. New York, Norton. Feynman, R. P. (1985) QED: The Strange Theory of Light and Matter. Princeton, NJ: Princeton University Press. Freeman, S. and Herron, J. C. (2004) Evolutionary analysis Third edition. Upper Saddle River, NJ: Pearson/Prentice Hall. Futuyma, D. (1998) Evolutionary Biology. Third edition. Sunderland, MA: Sinauer Associates. Geological Society of America (2001) "Evolution." http://www.geosociety.org/aboutus/position.htm Gould, S. J. (2002) The Structure of Evolutionary Theory. Cambridge, MA: Belknap Press of Harvard University Press. Mayr, E. (1991) One Long Argument. Cambridge, Harvard University Press. Try to pay more attention...B.A.S.E. #1734 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #178 October 26, 2010 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteconcrete proof mentioned toward evolutionThis site has a pretty good discussion of specific evidence, including this video. Wendy P. Thanks Wendy I will take a look when I get a chance At least you offered up something. Marc Did you ignore my post where I posted a website as well as the references that the site came from!?!? No I did not intentionaly ignore it but I must have missed it I will scan back sorry"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #179 October 26, 2010 QuoteQuoteOkay you asked me for the evidence. So here is one place to look for it. http://talkorigins.org/faqs/comdesc/ And these are all cited from prestigious universities and scholars so don't try to denote my source or try to say "ohhh you can't speak for yourself". I already know you're going to say it, I told you I'm not an evolutionary biologist but this is some of the best evidence out there if you really are interested in reading it. Do not respond to me unless you have something to say about what is in the link I sent you because you asked for evidence so you can't just ignore me after I give it to you. References American Association for the Advancement of Science (1990) Science for All Americans. http://www.project2061.org/tools/sfaaol/sfaatoc.htm Darwin, C. (1872) The Origin of Species. Sixth Edition. The Modern Library, New York. Dawkins, R. (1996) The Blind Watchmaker. New York, Norton. Feynman, R. P. (1985) QED: The Strange Theory of Light and Matter. Princeton, NJ: Princeton University Press. Freeman, S. and Herron, J. C. (2004) Evolutionary analysis Third edition. Upper Saddle River, NJ: Pearson/Prentice Hall. Futuyma, D. (1998) Evolutionary Biology. Third edition. Sunderland, MA: Sinauer Associates. Geological Society of America (2001) "Evolution." http://www.geosociety.org/aboutus/position.htm Gould, S. J. (2002) The Structure of Evolutionary Theory. Cambridge, MA: Belknap Press of Harvard University Press. Mayr, E. (1991) One Long Argument. Cambridge, Harvard University Press. Try to pay more attention... Ah you posted this to yourself please try and pay more attention"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #180 October 26, 2010 I thought you might find this interesting I went through some of the sites (quick scan) and many of them have a religious slant (as do some of yours the oposite slant) However, there are some good compelling questions that are raised and helps to support my comment that this is all just an un proven theory enjoy http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&source=hp&q=arguments+against+evolution&aq=0&aqi=g6g-m4&aql=&oq=arguments+against+evol&gs_rfai=C2fGwATjHTIajJ6CcygTrgYH6BQAAAKoEBU_Qohgz"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skipbelt 0 #181 October 26, 2010 libs love the theory of evolution , it provides a promise that the messy God business could be ignored . luckily it's just a theory..."Now, a new study by John McDonald of the University of Georgia and King Jordan at the National Center for Biotechnology Information at the National Institutes of Health, suggests for the first time that a burst of transpositional activity occurred at the same time humans and chimps are believed to have diverged from a common ancestor - 6 million years ago. These new results implicate retroelements, a particular type of transposable elements that are abundant in the human genome, in the actual shift from more rudimentary primates to modern human beings. The research was just published in the journal Genome Letters.http://www.ecs.umass.edu/~mettu/ece5...t/fulltext.pdfhttp://www.sciencedaily.com/releases...0802075138.htm Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Prior23 0 #182 October 26, 2010 QuoteQuoteQuoteOkay you asked me for the evidence. So here is one place to look for it. http://talkorigins.org/faqs/comdesc/ And these are all cited from prestigious universities and scholars so don't try to denote my source or try to say "ohhh you can't speak for yourself". I already know you're going to say it, I told you I'm not an evolutionary biologist but this is some of the best evidence out there if you really are interested in reading it. Do not respond to me unless you have something to say about what is in the link I sent you because you asked for evidence so you can't just ignore me after I give it to you. References American Association for the Advancement of Science (1990) Science for All Americans. http://www.project2061.org/tools/sfaaol/sfaatoc.htm Darwin, C. (1872) The Origin of Species. Sixth Edition. The Modern Library, New York. Dawkins, R. (1996) The Blind Watchmaker. New York, Norton. Feynman, R. P. (1985) QED: The Strange Theory of Light and Matter. Princeton, NJ: Princeton University Press. Freeman, S. and Herron, J. C. (2004) Evolutionary analysis Third edition. Upper Saddle River, NJ: Pearson/Prentice Hall. Futuyma, D. (1998) Evolutionary Biology. Third edition. Sunderland, MA: Sinauer Associates. Geological Society of America (2001) "Evolution." http://www.geosociety.org/aboutus/position.htm Gould, S. J. (2002) The Structure of Evolutionary Theory. Cambridge, MA: Belknap Press of Harvard University Press. Mayr, E. (1991) One Long Argument. Cambridge, Harvard University Press. Try to pay more attention... Ah you posted this to yourself please try and pay more attention I posted it to you... I just re-posted it because you don't pay attention so I tried to make it easy for you.B.A.S.E. #1734 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Prior23 0 #183 October 26, 2010 QuoteI thought you might find this interesting I went through some of the sites (quick scan) and many of them have a religious slant (as do some of yours the oposite slant) However, there are some good compelling questions that are raised and helps to support my comment that this is all just an un proven theory enjoy http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&source=hp&q=arguments+against+evolution&aq=0&aqi=g6g-m4&aql=&oq=arguments+against+evol&gs_rfai=C2fGwATjHTIajJ6CcygTrgYH6BQAAAKoEBU_Qohgz If there were so many holes in evolution and if so many people had the answer why wouldn't they get their ideas peer reviewed and published and they would win a Nobel prize for shooting down arguably the most solid and important theory in all of the scientific method, but this hasn't happened yet. Pick me one argument against evolution that has not been shot down completely. Evolution to this day has never had a question or accusation thrown at it that hasn't been thoroughly crushed.B.A.S.E. #1734 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Prior23 0 #184 October 26, 2010 QuoteI thought you might find this interesting I went through some of the sites (quick scan) and many of them have a religious slant (as do some of yours the oposite slant) However, there are some good compelling questions that are raised and helps to support my comment that this is all just an un proven theory enjoy http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&source=hp&q=arguments+against+evolution&aq=0&aqi=g6g-m4&aql=&oq=arguments+against+evol&gs_rfai=C2fGwATjHTIajJ6CcygTrgYH6BQAAAKoEBU_Qohgz Now I have a question to pose to you, let's say for the sake of argument that evolution is completely 100% bullshit and is proven wrong. What is your alternative to evolution, you cannot merely say evolution is wrong without having a better more clear alternative that's what you still have failed to tell me is lets say you are right about evolution, now tell me what is the better solution?B.A.S.E. #1734 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #185 October 26, 2010 QuoteQuoteI thought you might find this interesting I went through some of the sites (quick scan) and many of them have a religious slant (as do some of yours the oposite slant) However, there are some good compelling questions that are raised and helps to support my comment that this is all just an un proven theory enjoy http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&source=hp&q=arguments+against+evolution&aq=0&aqi=g6g-m4&aql=&oq=arguments+against+evol&gs_rfai=C2fGwATjHTIajJ6CcygTrgYH6BQAAAKoEBU_Qohgz If there were so many holes in evolution and if so many people had the answer why wouldn't they get their ideas peer reviewed and published and they would win a Nobel prize for shooting down arguably the most solid and important theory in all of the scientific method, but this hasn't happened yet. Pick me one argument against evolution that has not been shot down completely. Evolution to this day has never had a question or accusation thrown at it that hasn't been thoroughly crushed. You have a propensity to make statements of absolutes, don’t you….."America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #186 October 26, 2010 QuoteQuoteI thought you might find this interesting I went through some of the sites (quick scan) and many of them have a religious slant (as do some of yours the oposite slant) However, there are some good compelling questions that are raised and helps to support my comment that this is all just an un proven theory enjoy http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&source=hp&q=arguments+against+evolution&aq=0&aqi=g6g-m4&aql=&oq=arguments+against+evol&gs_rfai=C2fGwATjHTIajJ6CcygTrgYH6BQAAAKoEBU_Qohgz Now I have a question to pose to you, let's say for the sake of argument that evolution is completely 100% bullshit and is proven wrong. What is your alternative to evolution, you cannot merely say evolution is wrong without having a better more clear alternative that's what you still have failed to tell me is lets say you are right about evolution, now tell me what is the better solution? I dont know And I have yet to say what you beleive is false I have said I am not convinced (at least not as much as you are) But now you say that someone has to offer up something to prove they have a problem agreeing with you? Come on man You can do better"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skipbelt 0 #187 October 26, 2010 i probably won't agree with you on much , but yes , someone is not paying attention ! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wmw999 2,442 #188 October 26, 2010 Please learn how to post links. When you copy them with the little dots in there, they can't be found. You have to actually include all of the letters of the web address for the clicky to work. Wendy P.There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Prior23 0 #189 October 26, 2010 QuoteQuoteQuoteI thought you might find this interesting I went through some of the sites (quick scan) and many of them have a religious slant (as do some of yours the oposite slant) However, there are some good compelling questions that are raised and helps to support my comment that this is all just an un proven theory enjoy http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&source=hp&q=arguments+against+evolution&aq=0&aqi=g6g-m4&aql=&oq=arguments+against+evol&gs_rfai=C2fGwATjHTIajJ6CcygTrgYH6BQAAAKoEBU_Qohgz If there were so many holes in evolution and if so many people had the answer why wouldn't they get their ideas peer reviewed and published and they would win a Nobel prize for shooting down arguably the most solid and important theory in all of the scientific method, but this hasn't happened yet. Pick me one argument against evolution that has not been shot down completely. Evolution to this day has never had a question or accusation thrown at it that hasn't been thoroughly crushed. You have a propensity to make statements of absolutes, don’t you….. Logical absolutes are bullshit and don't do us any good in a practical conversation, the only truths that matter to us as humans are the truths that we can know to the best of our ability. If you are only going to tell me I'm wrong and not tell me why or offer a better solution then this is pointless. This is like going to see a presidential debate and one candidate is spewing out knowledge and ideas and the other candidate is just sitting there saying "You are wrong, that is all. Next statement?"B.A.S.E. #1734 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skipbelt 0 #190 October 26, 2010 gotta give you credit , you triedidk why they don't link , i did my best ,here is the rest"There is a growing body of evidence that transposable elements have contributed to the evolution of genome structure and function in many species," said McDonald, a molecular evolutionist and head of the genetics department at UGA. "Our results suggest that a bust of transposable element activity may well have contributed to the genetic changes that led to the emergence of the human species." Jordan received his doctoral degree at UGA working with McDonald...Interest in retroelements, which McDonald has been studying for more than a decade, has been growing recently. In a paper published last December in Nature Genetics, two researchers from Tufts University, Jennifer Hughes and John Coffin, identified 23 new members of the HERV-K group - the assemblage thought to contain the most recently active members. They found that at least 16 percent of those elements had undergone rearrangements that resulted in large-scale "deletions, duplications, and chromosome reshuffling during the evolution of the human genome."The research of Jordan and McDonald is intriguing because it suggests that RATHER THAN SIMPLY PLAYING A ROLE IN HUMAN EVOLUTION, RETROVIRAL ELEMENTS MAY ACTUALLY BE IMPLICATED IN THE LEAP FROM CHIMPANZEES TO HUMANS. Until a mere 50 years ago, scientists thought all genes worked from a stable position along a chromosome. That idea, however, began to change dramatically in the 1970s, when it became clear that the elements are pervasive in plant and animal genomes and that it simply made no sense that such elements would be conserved over thousands of millennia if they had no real functionEvery area of evolutionary "science" has been plagued by outright fraud, exaggeration, misinterpretation, erroneous claims, suppression of contrary evidence, closed-mindedness, etc., but the area of supposed human evolution has been especially rife with outright fraud and deception and with a refusal to acknowledge contrary evidencehttp://www.arn.org/docs/behe/mb_mousetrapdefended.htm Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #191 October 26, 2010 Like I said QuoteYou have a propensity to make statements of absolutes, don’t you….."America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites