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JohnRich 4
Quotein this thread, you posted evidence that proves "More Guns, More Crime."
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"Since 1991, when total violent crime peaked, it has decreased 43 percent to a 35-year low. The murder rate, less than half what it was in 1980, is now at a 45-year low. Throughout, the number of guns that Americans own has risen by about four million a year...See attached chart.
It completely baffles me how you could look at this data and conclude that it proves "more guns equals more crime".
If you respond, please try and do so without insults.
skipbelt 0
crickets.......
It's pretty easy.
You post: "Look - crime went down last year, even though people bought lots of guns. More guns, less crime!"
And then you post a graph showing 4 years of increasing crime in the 90s when guns certainly were being sold. Look! More guns, more crime!
If you had started with that chart to make your claim, it would have held up much better than making a lame argument that crime went down last year because we bought a crapload of guns.
Let me say this very slowly - Barring a major legislative event, a single year to year comparison has absolutely no value in this discussion.
You post: "Look - crime went down last year, even though people bought lots of guns. More guns, less crime!"
And then you post a graph showing 4 years of increasing crime in the 90s when guns certainly were being sold. Look! More guns, more crime!
If you had started with that chart to make your claim, it would have held up much better than making a lame argument that crime went down last year because we bought a crapload of guns.
Let me say this very slowly - Barring a major legislative event, a single year to year comparison has absolutely no value in this discussion.
Quotecrickets.......
uh, it's called employment. 3 hour guaranteed response time during business hours? You need to pay me. $50 for a quickie answer.
rhaig 0
$50 for a quickie? does that include a shower after?
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skipbelt 0
Quote$50 for a quickie? does that include a shower after?
a decontamination shower !
QuoteQuote$50 for a quickie? does that include a shower after?
a decontamination shower !
something to get rid of all the crickets resulting after my answer to his question, eh?
JohnRich 4
QuoteYou post: "Look - crime went down last year, even though people bought lots of guns. More guns, less crime!"
And then you post a graph showing 4 years of increasing crime in the 90s when guns certainly were being sold. Look! More guns, more crime!
If you had started with that chart to make your claim, it would have held up much better than making a lame argument that crime went down last year because we bought a crapload of guns.
Let me say this very slowly - Barring a major legislative event, a single year to year comparison has absolutely no value in this discussion.
The problem you're having is that you assumed I made such an argument. I didn't. Therefore, since the premise of your criticism is false, everything which follows is moot.
I've been on record here for a long time with the statement that there is no correlation between gun ownership levels and crime rates. I'm sure you've seen those statements before in other threads. I even refreshed your memory in message #27, and you acknowledged it. Yet you went careening off on the wrong track here anyway, like a runaway locomotive. And that's really ironic, because as you can see in message #27, we actually seem to be in agreement.
Message #27: http://www.dropzone.com/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?do=post_view_flat;post=3954047;#3954352
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The problem you're having is that you assumed I made such an argument. I didn't. Therefore, since the premise of your criticism is false, everything which follows is wrong.
No, the problem is you apparently lost the ability to read English shortly after titling this thread. Which is a shame, because this is something a grade schooler can understand.
neener, neener.
JohnRich 4
Quoteyou apparently lost the ability to read English shortly after titling this thread. Which is a shame, because this is something a grade schooler can understand.
Thank you for yet another personal insult. Such behavior serves you well!
If guns kill people, mine must all be defective. All they do is expel metal rounds through the muzzle at high speed when I operate them. I've never had the trigger pull my finger. And I certainly haven't seen all the wild west shootouts, the mayhem at road rage incidents, or (my personal favorite) streets running red with blood.
Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards.
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