billvon 3,073 #101 September 28, 2010 >Funny that you think they are that honest though. ?? How many honest people do you know who the police arrest for tax evasion? Believe it or not, the police actually have figured out ways of finding people even when they don't want to be found. >Uh - no. He doesn't have to show up for work. Then he doesn't get paid. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 226 #102 September 28, 2010 Quote>Funny that you think they are that honest though. ?? How many honest people do you know who the police arrest for tax evasion? Believe it or not, the police actually have figured out ways of finding people even when they don't want to be found. >Uh - no. He doesn't have to show up for work. Then he doesn't get paid. Nope - he gets paid . . . all year until they find out his SSN doesn't work. Then he goes and gets another SSN and a new name - if the employer is dishonest - or he gets a new job.I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,073 #103 September 29, 2010 >Nope - he gets paid . . . all year until they find out his SSN doesn't work. Who is "they?" The employer? They don't check. The IRS? They know as soon as they get the W-4. >Then he goes and gets another SSN and a new name - if the employer >is dishonest - or he gets a new job. I guess as long as he gets tipped off to when they are coming, agreed; he could do that. Of course, so can anyone else, illegal alien or not. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 226 #104 September 29, 2010 Quote>Nope - he gets paid . . . all year until they find out his SSN doesn't work. Who is "they?" The employer? They don't check. The IRS? They know as soon as they get the W-4. >Then he goes and gets another SSN and a new name - if the employer >is dishonest - or he gets a new job. I guess as long as he gets tipped off to when they are coming, agreed; he could do that. Of course, so can anyone else, illegal alien or not. Like talking to a wall. How much actual hands on experience do you have dealing with this issue, or is all your rambling just assumptions and conjecture?I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skipbelt 0 #105 September 29, 2010 QuoteQuotethis paying for 20mil illegals is starting to get expensive all the hype obuma asserted about HC is proving to be untrue http://www.postandcourier.com/news/2010/sep/25/insurers-stop-adding-kid-policies/http://www.boston.com/business/healthcare/articles/2010/09/28/harvard_pilgrim_cancels_medicare_advantage_plan/http://www.nationalreview.com/articles/247929/anatomy-hostile-government-takeover-james-c-caprettaGreat examples of why there needs to be a strong public option, and why health insurance companies need to be regulated with a heavier hand.more like the opposite ! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
loumeinhart 0 #106 September 29, 2010 QuoteSo the looming death of someone's child is not a strong enough incentive? I don't care about this so don't make ME pay for it.. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,073 #107 September 29, 2010 >>So the looming death of someone's child is not a strong enough >>incentive? >I don't care about this so don't make ME pay for it.. Again, that works if you're willing to give up the things I don't care about (like roads and optional wars) and things other people don't care about (like veteran's hospitals, air traffic control and the CDC.) But I have a feeling you want someone else to help pay for at least some of them. Which is fine - but expect to be made to pay for stuff other people want as well. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skipbelt 0 #108 September 29, 2010 Quote>>So the looming death of someone's child is not a strong enough >>incentive?>I don't care about this so don't make ME pay for it.. Again, that works if you're willing to give up the things I don't care about (like roads and optional wars) and things other people don't care about (like veteran's hospitals, air traffic control and the CDC.) But I have a feeling you want someone else to help pay for at least some of them. Which is fine - but expect to be made to pay for stuff other people want as well.we have too many takers , and not enough givers. why don't the libs give till it hurts ? no one's stopping you , but that would unduly detract from the real agenda ! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,073 #109 September 29, 2010 >why don't the libs give till it hurts ? We do! We support the red welfare states so they can complain about how unfair it all is. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skipbelt 0 #110 September 29, 2010 Quote>why don't the libs give till it hurts ?We do! We support the red welfare states so they can complain about how unfair it all is.i admire your courage in admitting you're a lib , now give ALL your money to the IRS , divide it between state and federal . nothing is stopping you except closet conservatism ! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 226 #111 September 29, 2010 QuoteQuote>why don't the libs give till it hurts ? We do! We support the red welfare states so they can complain about how unfair it all is. i admire your courage in admitting you're a lib , now give ALL your money to the IRS , divide it between state and federal . nothing is stopping you except closet conservatism ! Oh, be reasonable. Just let the governmenbt decide how much he should get no matter what he does to earn the money.I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,073 #112 September 29, 2010 >i admire your courage in admitting you're a lib I am indeed! >now give ALL your money to the IRS No thanks. I'm content to support the red states so they can complain. (Someone has to make the money to support em.) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 226 #113 September 29, 2010 Quote>i admire your courage in admitting you're a lib I am indeed! >now give ALL your money to the IRS No thanks. I'm content to support the red states so they can complain. (Someone has to make the money to support em.) A better solution is for you to letthe government have your paycheck and then write you your allowance back.I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
