Rstanley0312 1 #51 October 4, 2010 Quote Do they really? Yes they do..... besides war they have all of the leverage. Although we have military leverage it would still cost us dearly. Life is all about ass....either you're kicking it, kissing it, working it off, or trying to get a piece of it. Muff Brother #4382 Dudeist Skydiver #000 www.fundraiseadventure.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
justinb138 0 #52 October 4, 2010 Quote I think if we do nothing and more jobs leave the US our standard of living will continue to drop. How can making things we buy more expensive increase our standard of living? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,998 #53 October 4, 2010 >What have you done with Bill and when will he be back? Sorry, am I not conforming again? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 2 #54 October 4, 2010 QuoteQuote I think if we do nothing and more jobs leave the US our standard of living will continue to drop. How can making things we buy more expensive increase our standard of living? Well, here's the way it works: -We manufacture stuff offshore. So, it's cheaper for us to buy. But the workers at home get laid off, so they and their families spend a lot less money. So the businesses dependent on that spending lose money, and lay off people, and... the cycle repeats. or - We manufacture more stuff at home. More workers at home have jobs. But the stuff's more expensive. So people buy less of it. Plus, the wages of the workers at home oare higher, so the businesses they work for have higher overhead to begin with. So when people buy less of the more-expensive stuff, the businesses lose money, and start laying off people. Then their families don't have money to but things, and... the cycle repeats. So any way you look at it, we're all fucked. Unless we load up on tariffs so that the foreign stuff never hits our markets and then we can all go back to buying Fords and Chevies that only last 70,000 miles instead of Hondas and Nissans that last 250,000 miles but we won't know any better because we'll never see the foreign stuff just like back in the 50s and 60s when we never saw the foreign stuff so we all thought we were happy with The American Way Of Life but in fact we were miserable but we didn't realize we were miserable because Walter Cronkite told us we were happy until Nixon finally made everybody miserable and that's why we elected Carter cuz he had this real big smile but he fucked up too and that gave us Reagan and now we're all really fucked except for eight years of Clinton who taught us all that Freud was right when he said that sometimes a cigar is just a cigar. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skipbelt 0 #55 October 4, 2010 the utter dishonesty of clinton precipitated the dtcom bust , and collapse of enron , he legitimized lying , and set the example , he was so dishonest , he tried to pass off a cigar as a sextoy ! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,998 #56 October 4, 2010 >the utter dishonesty of clinton precipitated the dtcom bust , and collapse of enron . . . You missed a few there; don't forget AIDS, illegal immigrants, 9/11 and the Arab-Israeli conflict. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skipbelt 0 #57 October 4, 2010 Quote>the utter dishonesty of clinton precipitated the dtcom bust , and collapse of enron . . .You missed a few there; don't forget AIDS, illegal immigrants, 9/11 and the Arab-Israeli conflict.sorry , dotcom ,selectively reading again ? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Coreece 190 #58 October 4, 2010 Quote http://money.cnn.com/2010/09/29/news/economy/congress_china_currency_bill/index.htm added opinion always welcome. Turn to God, lest be sitting ducks.Your secrets are the true reflection of who you really are... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wmw999 2,452 #59 October 4, 2010 Quotethe utter dishonesty of clinton precipitated the dtcom bust , and collapse of enron , he legitimized lying , and set the example...So does that mean that Reagan caused the 1980's S&L crisis and the junk bond crisis? And inflation began to rise under Nixon, and got almost as bad under Ford as it did under Carter (in fact, it was during Reagan's first couple of years that it peaked). Did Nixon cause inflation? I think what I'm saying is that's a pretty stupid statement. People are responsible for their own actions. Examples make a difference, but just as Nixon trying to manipulate the political process to his own end illegally had nothing to do with inflation, Clinton being a sex hound who'd lie in a ridiculous attempt to preserve his reputation had nothing to do with Enron, the financial crisis, etc. People are greedy of their own accord. The more power they have the more impact their greed will have. And in the US money is a strong form of power. Wendy P.There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
