Supreme Court rejects case of woman ejected from Bush speech

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She was removed from the audience because of an antiwar bumper sticker on her car. The justices, on a 7-2 vote, let stand a ruling that the action by Bush aides did not violate the 1st Amendment.

WASHINGTON — The Supreme Court turned down a lawsuit today against aides to former President George W. Bush for having ejected a Colorado woman from one of his public speeches because her car had a bumper sticker that said "No More Blood for Oil."

By a 7-2 vote, the court let stand a ruling that held the president is free to select his audience at public speeches and to have his aides remove persons who may disagree with him.

Justices Ruth Bader Ginsburg and Sonia Sotomayor dissented, saying the Constitution does not permit officials to exclude persons simply "for holding discordant views."

The Bush White House had a policy of excluding dissidents and protesters from the president's public appearances. In several lawsuits that arose, aides said they wanted to prevent critics from disrupting his speeches.

In the Colorado case, however, there was no allegation that Leslie Weise, a clean-energy consultant, had protested or threatened the president. She had obtained a ticket to an event in Denver in 2005 where the president was due to speak about Social Security. But when aides to Bush learned of the bumper sticker on her car, they had her removed from her seat and escorted away

[funjumper101 15]

Shrub's staff is allowed to be the thought police? You can be excluded form a "public appearance" by the President, simply because of what the staff believes you may or may not think?

That seems like a funny Saturday Night live skit. It sure isn't anything that should have actually happened in the USA.

If you, the President, are too chickenshit to speak to all of the citizens, not just your followers, you aren't qualified to hold the job.

The fact that POTUS is a PUBLIC SERVICE job, where you are President of all of the citizens, not just your minions, used to mean something. They work for us, remember? All of us. They can speak to all of us.

Intentionally disruptive people can be arrested and removed as needed. Penalties for such behavior should be severe.

Blocking part of the public from "public appearances" of elected politicians is quite simply wrong.
Especially when the criteria for preventing attendance is so randomly judged and applied.

[rushmc 23]

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Shrub's staff is allowed to be the thought police? You can be excluded form a "public appearance" by the President, simply because of what the staff believes you may or may not think?

That seems like a funny Saturday Night live skit. It sure isn't anything that should have actually happened in the USA.

If you, the President, are too chickenshit to speak to all of the citizens, not just your followers, you aren't qualified to hold the job.

The fact that POTUS is a PUBLIC SERVICE job, where you are President of all of the citizens, not just your minions, used to mean something. They work for us, remember? All of us. They can speak to all of us.

Intentionally disruptive people can be arrested and removed as needed. Penalties for such behavior should be severe.

Blocking part of the public from "public appearances" of elected politicians is quite simply wrong.
Especially when the criteria for preventing attendance is so randomly judged and applied.

So, you dont like what Obama does either?

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[lawrocket 3]

Your poll is incomplete. The SCOTUS did not decide this case on the merits - it only refused to hear the case.

Some points:
(1) Less than 1% of cases appealed to the SCOTUS get heard. This case has good company.
(2) Cases that get heard are usually: (1) to resolve a conflict between circuit courts (where, i.e., the 9th Circuit and 5th Circuit have opposite holdings); (2) where a government is a party (especially the US Government); or (3) where a criminal issue is presented (especially habeus corpus). This case ain't none of those.
(3) This case dealt with the portion of the lawsuit against volunteers. The governmental actors are still involved in this suit and NOT part of this refusal to grant certiorari. The governmental actors may come up in this at a later point.


Now, my personal opinion on the subject? I think that what the administration representatives and volunteers did in ejecting the woman was disgusting and I really hope she wins. She was a silent attendee and NOT even someone who was providing speech at the event.

My wife is hotter than your wife.

[Andy9o8 2]

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my personal opinion on the subject? I think that what the administration representatives and volunteers did in ejecting the woman was disgusting and I really hope she wins. She was a silent attendee and NOT even someone who was providing speech at the event.

Those are my feelings, too. And if it had happened at a Dem president's speech, I'd still feel the same way.

[Amazon 7]

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my personal opinion on the subject? I think that what the administration representatives and volunteers did in ejecting the woman was disgusting and I really hope she wins. She was a silent attendee and NOT even someone who was providing speech at the event.

Those are my feelings, too. And if it had happened at a Dem president's speech, I'd still feel the same way.

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I think this administration has gone FAR above the standard that the last administration did. The former president did NOT want to hear anything that was contrary to his desire. He continually surrounded himself with people who would tell him what he wanted to hear of they were out the door in a heartbeat.

Home home on the Texas range,
where the deer and the neo cons play,

Where never is heard a discouraging word

And the skies are polluted all day.

[DaVinci 0]

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You can be excluded form a "public appearance" by the President, simply because of what the staff believes you may or may not think?

Yeah, the nerve!!!!!

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If you, the President, are too chickenshit to speak to all of the citizens, not just your followers, you aren't qualified to hold the job.

Hard to imagine!!!

http://www.diggersrealm.com/mt/archives/003481.html

Oh Crap!!! Your guy did it too!!!

[rushmc 23]

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my personal opinion on the subject? I think that what the administration representatives and volunteers did in ejecting the woman was disgusting and I really hope she wins. She was a silent attendee and NOT even someone who was providing speech at the event.

Those are my feelings, too. And if it had happened at a Dem president's speech, I'd still feel the same way.

+1

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[rehmwa 2]

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my personal opinion on the subject? I think that what the administration representatives and volunteers did in ejecting the woman was disgusting and I really hope she wins. She was a silent attendee and NOT even someone who was providing speech at the event.

Those are my feelings, too. And if it had happened at a Dem president's speech, I'd still feel the same way.

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people should be treated on how they act, not how someone subjectively FEELS they might act in the future

bumper stickers are an impotent form of communication used by the weak that aren't brave enough to stand up and give a speech, let alone attack a public figure - she was likely harmless as such

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Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants

[kelpdiver 2]

So how did they match the bumper sticker of a parked car to its owner?

[skipbelt 0]

conspiracy alert !

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my personal opinion on the subject? I think that what the administration representatives and volunteers did in ejecting the woman was disgusting and I really hope she wins. She was a silent attendee and NOT even someone who was providing speech at the event.

Those are my feelings, too. And if it had happened at a Dem president's speech, I'd still feel the same way.

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people should be treated on how they act, not how someone subjectively FEELS they might act in the future

bumper stickers are an impotent form of communication used by the weak that aren't brave enough to stand up and give a speech, let alone attack a public figure - she was likely harmless as such

Ya

Like the fuck sticks who keyed my car because I had bush bumper stickers on it

Like that

Right?

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[skipbelt 0]

you could cover those scratches with Sore/Loserman stickers ! and be proud of them !

[wmw999 2,545]

Is that why they keyed your car? If so, that sucks. If not, it still sucks that your car got keyed. I had one keyed, on a side I'd just had repainted. I didn't have any bumper stickers at all

Wendy P.

There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown)

[turtlespeed 226]

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Is that why they keyed your car? If so, that sucks. If not, it still sucks that your car got keyed. I had one keyed, on a side I'd just had repainted. I didn't have any bumper stickers at all

Wendy P.

I saw some one getting their car keyed at the local Krogers. They made an arrow to the McCain bumper sticker on the left side and were almost finished writing a word when i walked up, (after I called 911), and started saying how right they were to be standing up for what they believe in! I complimented them on how much they were helping the true face of the democratic party.

I think they finally started understanding my glaring sarcasm, and started to try to walk off . . . right into the waiting smiles of police.

I can't remember having a nicer day that week. MAYBE even that month.

It was a good day.

I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama
BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun

[tbrown 26]

So what do you expect from a Court packed with father & son appointees, which in fact "elected" the son ?

Your humble servant.....Professor Gravity !

[skipbelt 0]

bush derangement syndrome alive and well !

[wmw999 2,545]

You did the right thing, and I'm glad you got satisfaction; I would have too.

Wendy P.

There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown)

[skipbelt 0]

that had to be sweet !

[turtlespeed 226]

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that had to be sweet !

I don't know what happened after it was all said and done.

It was funny watching how flattery kept them unaware that the cops had just stopped right in back of them.

I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama
BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun

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Is that why they keyed your car? If so, that sucks. If not, it still sucks that your car got keyed. I had one keyed, on a side I'd just had repainted. I didn't have any bumper stickers at all

Wendy P.

Well
with Fuck Bush carved it there I was a little suspicious that this is what the keying was about

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

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+1

I think this administration has gone FAR above the standard that the last administration did. The former president did NOT want to hear anything that was contrary to his desire. He continually surrounded himself with people who would tell him what he wanted to hear of they were out the door in a heartbeat.

Home home on the Texas range,
where the deer and the neo cons play,

Where never is heard a discouraging word

And the skies are polluted all day.

Or if you hear a discouraging word, report it to the government.


http://blogs.abcnews.com/thenote/2009/08/gop-senator-white-house-encroaching-on-first-amendment.html






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[ryoder 1,590]

On principle I side with the woman, but the humanitarian in me can't help but think they were doing her a favor by not letting her hear Dubya torturing the English language.

"There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones.

[Beachbum 0]

It is disgusting to me, to see that at this point in the poll, 50% think this behavior is ok ... :( ... I would think that regardless of party affiliation, people could see how bad this is. I guess I've had a misconception about how people in this country really feel.

As long as you are happy with yourself ... who cares what the rest of the world thinks?

[Amazon 7]

Gee like all the people in the media and the peace movement that the Bush Administration wiretapped ??

The numbers were in the thousands.. all under the auspices of the John Ashcroft Patriot Act