rushmc 23 #51 October 14, 2010 QuoteQuoteWell, I personally find your quoted statement extremely bigoted. But in the end I really dont care if you care to say it or not. At least I have the intelligence to know, And the integrity to admit it is factually incorrect, wish I could say that about others. QuoteSo, I find using the race card or bigot label as being a PC tactic to shut up the other side. Why else would some one feel compeled to do that? That might be your opinion of the way I operate. The way I see it is I have always been very capable of seeing both sides, and after looking at this from every angle I can not think of any other motivation. As I said before if you can please share? QuoteAs for the soup thingy? Could be the people are just ignorant and I really dont care to look into it any further. Boycotts are a waste of time by anybody Are you running for office? You sound like it man. How hard is it say to me “your wrong” and then state your reason? Remember me talking about people twisting and turning to avoid the facts, thats what your doing. I read your first reply and you think you have the smarts and honesty Great Have a nice life"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 220 #52 October 14, 2010 QuoteQuoteQuoteWell, I personally find your quoted statement extremely bigoted. But in the end I really dont care if you care to say it or not. I almost typed that Darius could find a bigot under every piece of sand on a beach, but then that might be misconstrued, so I didn't.I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites billvon 2,993 #53 October 14, 2010 >What people "allow" it to continue? All the Christians who don't stop it, of course. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites turtlespeed 220 #54 October 14, 2010 Quote>What people "allow" it to continue? All the Christians who don't stop it, of course. So that would lump you int othat mix, then.I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites skipbelt 0 #55 October 14, 2010 thousands of priests ? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites lost_n_confuzd 0 #56 October 14, 2010 Quote>What people "allow" it to continue? All the Christians who don't stop it, of course. That's a pretty broad statement and could apply to anything. Maybe you meant all Christians who know of specific instances of it going on and do nothing to stop it are allowing it to happen. Is that what you meant? I would agree with that. But to accuse all Christans of allowing something to happen because they are Christian is not cool. The boycott is dumb. I like Campbels tomato soup! By your logic all Mulsims who don't stop the hundreds of thousands, maybe even millions, of Mulsim men from marrying and having sex with Mulsim girls (rape?) are allowing it to happen? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Niki1 1 #57 October 14, 2010 I guess i was way ahead of this thing. I haven't bought Campbell's Soup in years. It's so bland as to be tasteless. I think hospital food has more flavor. But I will go out and buy a can of this new stuff just for the symbolic support of the anti-assholes. Most of the things worth doing in the world had been declared impossilbe before they were done. Louis D Brandeis Where are we going and why are we in this basket? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites DaVinci 0 #58 October 14, 2010 QuoteBut I have to say as a Muslim most of what I see (including people on Dz.com) that can be qualified as racists is from people who claim to be republican or tea party. At least when it comes to Muslims. So you are claiming YOUR bigotry is OK???? QuoteIts odd because they keep on denying it. Its as if they make a statement or an action that’s is obviously motivated on hate, That you THINK is obviously motivated on hate..... You are pointing out bigotry and hate.... But not in the way you intended. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Darius11 12 #59 October 14, 2010 Quote Quote Quote Quote Well, I personally find your quoted statement extremely bigoted. But in the end I really dont care if you care to say it or not. I almost typed that Darius could find a bigot under every piece of sand on a beach, but then that might be misconstrued, so I didn't. Good thing you made the sandnigger reference in your head so it stopped you from posting it. GOOD SAVENo I just call it like I see it. When I see people who claim to be patriots, or claim that the constitution is importent to them, and then see them shit on the constitution because there bigotry runs to strong I call them on it. I have seen plenty of people on here who claim such things yet tend to shit on their own principles and show their tru3e colors when it comes to Muslims. Like most people motivated by hate they themselves think they have valid reason for their hate, they simply will not see their own ignorance.I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Darius11 12 #60 October 14, 2010 Quotewow , that was the most obfuscated reply i've ever received . i seem to be hot on the trail ! The point of that post was to remind you that all religions have ridicules rules, laws, and recommendations in them. Your only choosing to classify all Muslims by those rules yet are skipping over all the same rules that are in Christian and Jewish books.I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites mnealtx 0 #61 October 14, 2010 QuoteLike most people motivated by hate they themselves think they have valid reason for their hate, they simply will not see their own ignorance. Maybe you should be "talking to the man in the mirror".Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Darius11 12 #62 October 14, 2010 Maybe you should try to post something factual or at least with some sort of evidence. Your arguments or posts would have a lot more meaning. Just because you want to believe something doesn’t make it so.I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites rehmwa 2 #63 October 14, 2010 QuoteBut I will go out and buy a can of this new stuff just for the symbolic support of the anti-assholes. I find that as impotent and pointless and sophomoric as boycotting the company for the opposite reason. IMO - If you like the soup, buy it. If you don't, don't buy it. I'd rather the best soup makers survive, rather than crappy soup makers with socio/political agendas to grind. The world would be a better place if people just tried to do the best job they could and stopped butting into other people's lives. ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Darius11 12 #64 October 14, 2010 QuoteA small number of small minded people who will have no effect. And as for the "all bigots are right wingers" crack, you're about 30 anti Israeli threads past me trusting your judgment on bigotry. I'd sooner ask Rhys retail ethics questions. Same thing i said to Mike Just because you want to believe something doesn’t make it so. There are plenty of us who stand up against the violation of humane rights. We site the UN international law and agreements. You’re the ones who have set the standard of “We support Israel no matter what”. I have the standard of when someone does something wrong I call them on it. I don’t allow my sense of camaraderie flex my sense of ethics and right or wrong. As I have said before TO ANYONE who blindly supports Israel Give me one standard your applying that applies to everyone where Israel is inocent? You want to site international law when it convenient, you want talk about humane rights when its convenient. Any time Israel is shown to have violated the standard which you set you simply change your standard to fit your view.I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Darius11 12 #65 October 14, 2010 QuoteThe world would be a better place if people just tried to do the best job they could and stopped butting into other people's lives. I have a feeling if you were constantly targeted you would feel differently. It is not just the about soup or this one incident its about all the incidents that seem to come up. Its that people who claim to value freedom of religion, freedom of speech, and freedom for business the very people who CLAIM that these are their values say the opposite when its about Muslims. I believe that’s the very definition of being a bigot. Its hard to sit back when it seems the most mislead, and ignorant of our society have the loudest voice. Its also frightening when we are talking about discrimination we know where that path lives and it history it has never been to a good place.I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites mnealtx 0 #66 October 14, 2010 QuoteMaybe you should try to post something factual or at least with some sort of evidence. Seems more like you're looking for something to be offended about, whether it actually exists or not - sorta like your 'sandnigger' comment, above. Knock the fucking chip off your shoulder, dude - you're better than that.Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites skipbelt 0 #67 October 14, 2010 i haven't heard of a brutally honest muslim yet. some brutally honest EX muslims , yes ! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Darius11 12 #68 October 14, 2010 Mike I don’t play games. If you know me at all from the years here you should know that. I don’t play like I have no clue what turtle was talking about when he is talking about mentioning me and sand and having it be misunderstood. You can play your little playing dumb games all you want, but I don’t never have never will. I am also not insulted by it we are allowed to think what we want. But I do find it interesting when people give you little unknown looks in to how their brain works.I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites DaVinci 0 #69 October 14, 2010 QuoteLike most people motivated by hate they themselves think they have valid reason for their hate, they simply will not see their own ignorance. You should read this like 10 times and then read your first post to this thread again. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Darius11 12 #70 October 14, 2010 Quotei haven't heard of a brutally honest muslim yet. some brutally honest EX muslims , yes ! How did you determine the dishonest ones from the honest ex-Muslim ones?I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites rehmwa 2 #71 October 14, 2010 QuoteQuoteThe world would be a better place if people just tried to do the best job they could and stopped butting into other people's lives. I have a feeling if you were constantly targeted you would feel differently. actually, if was constantly targeted, I suspect I'd be an even bigger advocate for people staying out of other's business do you even read the posts? ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Darius11 12 #72 October 14, 2010 No need really This is one the first page Quote -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Quote -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Is it true that not all right wingers are racists, but all racists are right wingers. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- My answer post 23 The statment is logically incorrect, As is the case whenever you use absolutes. I did not even attempt to fight that the statement is factually false. I even went in to explain why it was emotional and why I felt the way I did. Wish more people had that much clarity. Go read the NY mosque thread or any other of the 100s of anti muslim threads on here. Watch the same old repubs who jump on the band wagon any bandwagon that is anti Muslim. There even willing to shit on the constitution to satisfy their hate. Thats the reason i feel the way i do. Sorry for the honestyI'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites DaVinci 0 #73 October 14, 2010 QuoteI even went in to explain why it was emotional and why I felt the way I did. So you think it being an emotional position makes bigotry OK? QuoteGo read the NY mosque thread or any other of the 100s of anti muslim threads on here. Do you see me supporting them? No. See you seem to support bigotry as long as YOU are being the bigot, but cry about it when anyone else it one. QuoteWatch the same old repubs who jump on the band wagon any bandwagon that is anti Muslim. There even willing to shit on the constitution to satisfy their hate. And you are willing to do the EXACT same when you feel like it. QuoteThats the reason i feel the way i do. Sorry for the honesty You are acting like a bigot while crying about others acting like bigots..... You don't see the irony there huh? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Darius11 12 #74 October 14, 2010 Quotedo you even read the posts? Yes i do. Not all of them, there are a few people on here that i skip over. Lets just say if you have called me a towelhead and already expressed your hatred for me I don’t have a reason to read your post. However thats not the case with us( at least i hope). So I did read what you said, but your forgetting what should be donw about the people who do butt in? I agree it would be great if every one just minded their own business, and didn't think they have the answeres for others, but they don;t Maybe I am over reacting, but I don't think we're not that much off from sending me to a camp like we did the Japanese. All we need to do is stay silent and let the nutjobs have the mic.I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites mnealtx 0 #75 October 14, 2010 QuoteMike I don’t play games. If you know me at all from the years here you should know that. I don’t play like I have no clue what turtle was talking about when he is talking about mentioning me and sand and having it be misunderstood. Seems like you misconstrued just like turtle figured you would. How's that telepathy working out for you in the REST of your life besides here? QuoteBut I do find it interesting when people give you little unknown looks in to how their brain works. Indeed.Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Prev 1 2 3 4 5 Next Page 3 of 5 Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. 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billvon 2,993 #53 October 14, 2010 >What people "allow" it to continue? All the Christians who don't stop it, of course. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 220 #54 October 14, 2010 Quote>What people "allow" it to continue? All the Christians who don't stop it, of course. So that would lump you int othat mix, then.I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skipbelt 0 #55 October 14, 2010 thousands of priests ? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lost_n_confuzd 0 #56 October 14, 2010 Quote>What people "allow" it to continue? All the Christians who don't stop it, of course. That's a pretty broad statement and could apply to anything. Maybe you meant all Christians who know of specific instances of it going on and do nothing to stop it are allowing it to happen. Is that what you meant? I would agree with that. But to accuse all Christans of allowing something to happen because they are Christian is not cool. The boycott is dumb. I like Campbels tomato soup! By your logic all Mulsims who don't stop the hundreds of thousands, maybe even millions, of Mulsim men from marrying and having sex with Mulsim girls (rape?) are allowing it to happen? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Niki1 1 #57 October 14, 2010 I guess i was way ahead of this thing. I haven't bought Campbell's Soup in years. It's so bland as to be tasteless. I think hospital food has more flavor. But I will go out and buy a can of this new stuff just for the symbolic support of the anti-assholes. Most of the things worth doing in the world had been declared impossilbe before they were done. Louis D Brandeis Where are we going and why are we in this basket? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DaVinci 0 #58 October 14, 2010 QuoteBut I have to say as a Muslim most of what I see (including people on Dz.com) that can be qualified as racists is from people who claim to be republican or tea party. At least when it comes to Muslims. So you are claiming YOUR bigotry is OK???? QuoteIts odd because they keep on denying it. Its as if they make a statement or an action that’s is obviously motivated on hate, That you THINK is obviously motivated on hate..... You are pointing out bigotry and hate.... But not in the way you intended. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Darius11 12 #59 October 14, 2010 Quote Quote Quote Quote Well, I personally find your quoted statement extremely bigoted. But in the end I really dont care if you care to say it or not. I almost typed that Darius could find a bigot under every piece of sand on a beach, but then that might be misconstrued, so I didn't. Good thing you made the sandnigger reference in your head so it stopped you from posting it. GOOD SAVENo I just call it like I see it. When I see people who claim to be patriots, or claim that the constitution is importent to them, and then see them shit on the constitution because there bigotry runs to strong I call them on it. I have seen plenty of people on here who claim such things yet tend to shit on their own principles and show their tru3e colors when it comes to Muslims. Like most people motivated by hate they themselves think they have valid reason for their hate, they simply will not see their own ignorance.I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Darius11 12 #60 October 14, 2010 Quotewow , that was the most obfuscated reply i've ever received . i seem to be hot on the trail ! The point of that post was to remind you that all religions have ridicules rules, laws, and recommendations in them. Your only choosing to classify all Muslims by those rules yet are skipping over all the same rules that are in Christian and Jewish books.I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #61 October 14, 2010 QuoteLike most people motivated by hate they themselves think they have valid reason for their hate, they simply will not see their own ignorance. Maybe you should be "talking to the man in the mirror".Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Darius11 12 #62 October 14, 2010 Maybe you should try to post something factual or at least with some sort of evidence. Your arguments or posts would have a lot more meaning. Just because you want to believe something doesn’t make it so.I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #63 October 14, 2010 QuoteBut I will go out and buy a can of this new stuff just for the symbolic support of the anti-assholes. I find that as impotent and pointless and sophomoric as boycotting the company for the opposite reason. IMO - If you like the soup, buy it. If you don't, don't buy it. I'd rather the best soup makers survive, rather than crappy soup makers with socio/political agendas to grind. The world would be a better place if people just tried to do the best job they could and stopped butting into other people's lives. ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Darius11 12 #64 October 14, 2010 QuoteA small number of small minded people who will have no effect. And as for the "all bigots are right wingers" crack, you're about 30 anti Israeli threads past me trusting your judgment on bigotry. I'd sooner ask Rhys retail ethics questions. Same thing i said to Mike Just because you want to believe something doesn’t make it so. There are plenty of us who stand up against the violation of humane rights. We site the UN international law and agreements. You’re the ones who have set the standard of “We support Israel no matter what”. I have the standard of when someone does something wrong I call them on it. I don’t allow my sense of camaraderie flex my sense of ethics and right or wrong. As I have said before TO ANYONE who blindly supports Israel Give me one standard your applying that applies to everyone where Israel is inocent? You want to site international law when it convenient, you want talk about humane rights when its convenient. Any time Israel is shown to have violated the standard which you set you simply change your standard to fit your view.I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Darius11 12 #65 October 14, 2010 QuoteThe world would be a better place if people just tried to do the best job they could and stopped butting into other people's lives. I have a feeling if you were constantly targeted you would feel differently. It is not just the about soup or this one incident its about all the incidents that seem to come up. Its that people who claim to value freedom of religion, freedom of speech, and freedom for business the very people who CLAIM that these are their values say the opposite when its about Muslims. I believe that’s the very definition of being a bigot. Its hard to sit back when it seems the most mislead, and ignorant of our society have the loudest voice. Its also frightening when we are talking about discrimination we know where that path lives and it history it has never been to a good place.I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #66 October 14, 2010 QuoteMaybe you should try to post something factual or at least with some sort of evidence. Seems more like you're looking for something to be offended about, whether it actually exists or not - sorta like your 'sandnigger' comment, above. Knock the fucking chip off your shoulder, dude - you're better than that.Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skipbelt 0 #67 October 14, 2010 i haven't heard of a brutally honest muslim yet. some brutally honest EX muslims , yes ! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Darius11 12 #68 October 14, 2010 Mike I don’t play games. If you know me at all from the years here you should know that. I don’t play like I have no clue what turtle was talking about when he is talking about mentioning me and sand and having it be misunderstood. You can play your little playing dumb games all you want, but I don’t never have never will. I am also not insulted by it we are allowed to think what we want. But I do find it interesting when people give you little unknown looks in to how their brain works.I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DaVinci 0 #69 October 14, 2010 QuoteLike most people motivated by hate they themselves think they have valid reason for their hate, they simply will not see their own ignorance. You should read this like 10 times and then read your first post to this thread again. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Darius11 12 #70 October 14, 2010 Quotei haven't heard of a brutally honest muslim yet. some brutally honest EX muslims , yes ! How did you determine the dishonest ones from the honest ex-Muslim ones?I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #71 October 14, 2010 QuoteQuoteThe world would be a better place if people just tried to do the best job they could and stopped butting into other people's lives. I have a feeling if you were constantly targeted you would feel differently. actually, if was constantly targeted, I suspect I'd be an even bigger advocate for people staying out of other's business do you even read the posts? ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Darius11 12 #72 October 14, 2010 No need really This is one the first page Quote -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Quote -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Is it true that not all right wingers are racists, but all racists are right wingers. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- My answer post 23 The statment is logically incorrect, As is the case whenever you use absolutes. I did not even attempt to fight that the statement is factually false. I even went in to explain why it was emotional and why I felt the way I did. Wish more people had that much clarity. Go read the NY mosque thread or any other of the 100s of anti muslim threads on here. Watch the same old repubs who jump on the band wagon any bandwagon that is anti Muslim. There even willing to shit on the constitution to satisfy their hate. Thats the reason i feel the way i do. Sorry for the honestyI'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DaVinci 0 #73 October 14, 2010 QuoteI even went in to explain why it was emotional and why I felt the way I did. So you think it being an emotional position makes bigotry OK? QuoteGo read the NY mosque thread or any other of the 100s of anti muslim threads on here. Do you see me supporting them? No. See you seem to support bigotry as long as YOU are being the bigot, but cry about it when anyone else it one. QuoteWatch the same old repubs who jump on the band wagon any bandwagon that is anti Muslim. There even willing to shit on the constitution to satisfy their hate. And you are willing to do the EXACT same when you feel like it. QuoteThats the reason i feel the way i do. Sorry for the honesty You are acting like a bigot while crying about others acting like bigots..... You don't see the irony there huh? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Darius11 12 #74 October 14, 2010 Quotedo you even read the posts? Yes i do. Not all of them, there are a few people on here that i skip over. Lets just say if you have called me a towelhead and already expressed your hatred for me I don’t have a reason to read your post. However thats not the case with us( at least i hope). So I did read what you said, but your forgetting what should be donw about the people who do butt in? I agree it would be great if every one just minded their own business, and didn't think they have the answeres for others, but they don;t Maybe I am over reacting, but I don't think we're not that much off from sending me to a camp like we did the Japanese. All we need to do is stay silent and let the nutjobs have the mic.I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #75 October 14, 2010 QuoteMike I don’t play games. If you know me at all from the years here you should know that. I don’t play like I have no clue what turtle was talking about when he is talking about mentioning me and sand and having it be misunderstood. Seems like you misconstrued just like turtle figured you would. How's that telepathy working out for you in the REST of your life besides here? QuoteBut I do find it interesting when people give you little unknown looks in to how their brain works. Indeed.Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
