turtlespeed 221 #51 October 19, 2010 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuote The question here is are you honest enough to admit that your guy has done more damage to it than anyone - ever? Not until the fucking no minds who voted for the stupid fuckers who set all of the current deficit in order man up and take some of their supposed right wing responsibility and confess your sins against the American people Hmm - so you admit that the truth is there and that you simply refuse to admit it until someone else admits something that happened in the past. Fine - Bush Fucked up - he was a twit as a President, and his policies and the old GOP made some seriously bad decisions. Your turn. Are you going to admit that his policies and budgets are what Obama is still saddled with. The OMB certainly knows the facts. I am sure you might be able to find something that would enlighten you to facts. I know its hard.. but you are not going to find that information in your usual new sources though. Yes - I will admit that Obamas policies and budgets are what Obama is saddled with. Bailouts - Failed Cash For Klunkers - FAILED Heathcare Bill - FAILED (If you don't believe that watch the upcoming elections) Obama spent in his 1/2 term what bush spent in all 8 of his. Can you admit that?I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,998 #52 October 19, 2010 >Obama spent in his 1/2 term what bush spent in all 8 of his. US government spending 2001-2008: $34 trillion US government spending 2009-2010: $12 trillion >Can you admit that? It's like a law of nature. The more condescending and snarky a post is, the more likely it is to be wrong. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
futuredivot 0 #53 October 19, 2010 It's like a law of nature, you're gonna skip three points in a post to snip at a hyperboleYou are only as strong as the prey you devour Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,998 #54 October 19, 2010 >you're gonna skip three points in a post to snip at a hyperbole Ah, so that post was supposed to be hyperbole! Which means that it's not actually true, but rather was exaggerated for emotional effect. Fair enough. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
futuredivot 0 #55 October 19, 2010 Quote>you're gonna skip three points in a post to snip at a hyperbole Ah, so that post was supposed to be hyperbole! Which means that it's not actually true, but rather was exaggerated for emotional effect. Fair enough. Emphasized the part you must have missed to bring it down to your levelYou are only as strong as the prey you devour Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #56 October 19, 2010 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuote The question here is are you honest enough to admit that your guy has done more damage to it than anyone - ever? Not until the fucking no minds who voted for the stupid fuckers who set all of the current deficit in order man up and take some of their supposed right wing responsibility and confess your sins against the American people Hmm - so you admit that the truth is there and that you simply refuse to admit it until someone else admits something that happened in the past. Fine - Bush Fucked up - he was a twit as a President, and his policies and the old GOP made some seriously bad decisions. Your turn. Are you going to admit that his policies and budgets are what Obama is still saddled with. The OMB certainly knows the facts. I am sure you might be able to find something that would enlighten you to facts. I know its hard.. but you are not going to find that information in your usual new sources though. Yes - I will admit that Obamas policies and budgets are what Obama is saddled with. Bailouts - Failed Cash For Klunkers - FAILED Heathcare Bill - FAILED (If you don't believe that watch the upcoming elections) Obama spent in his 1/2 term what bush spent in all 8 of his. Can you admit that? You really are not good with economics are you?? Bailouts - Failed <==========Who actually bailed out who.. and now much did it really cost??? Cash For Klunkers - FAILED <==It got POS off the road.. but overall it was goat fuck stupid. Heathcare Bill - FAILED (If you don't believe that watch the upcoming elections) You are right.. it did not go far enough.. because the Fringe Right would not do thier job and work out a TRUE compromise.. which is why we hire the fucking politicians to do a job. OH and just how differnt is the PARTY OF NO's vaunted Healthcare plan???? ZERO difference except for mandated morality to insure when a man rapes his daughter or some other woman.. she is FORCED to have HIS child. Its a policy that ONLY a caveman could understand Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 221 #57 October 19, 2010 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuote The question here is are you honest enough to admit that your guy has done more damage to it than anyone - ever? Not until the fucking no minds who voted for the stupid fuckers who set all of the current deficit in order man up and take some of their supposed right wing responsibility and confess your sins against the American people Hmm - so you admit that the truth is there and that you simply refuse to admit it until someone else admits something that happened in the past. Fine - Bush Fucked up - he was a twit as a President, and his policies and the old GOP made some seriously bad decisions. Your turn. Are you going to admit that his policies and budgets are what Obama is still saddled with. The OMB certainly knows the facts. I am sure you might be able to find something that would enlighten you to facts. I know its hard.. but you are not going to find that information in your usual new sources though. Yes - I will admit that Obamas policies and budgets are what Obama is saddled with. Bailouts - Failed Cash For Klunkers - FAILED Heathcare Bill - FAILED (If you don't believe that watch the upcoming elections) Obama spent in his 1/2 term what bush spent in all 8 of his. Can you admit that? You really are not good with economics are you?? Bailouts - Failed <==========Who actually bailed out who.. and now much did it really cost??? Cash For Klunkers - FAILED <==It got POS off the road.. but overall it was goat fuck stupid. Heathcare Bill - FAILED (If you don't believe that watch the upcoming elections) You are right.. it did not go far enough.. because the Fringe Right would not do thier job and work out a TRUE compromise.. which is why we hire the fucking politicians to do a job. OH and just how differnt is the PARTY OF NO's vaunted Healthcare plan???? ZERO difference except for mandated morality to insure when a man rapes his daughter or some other woman.. she is FORCED to have HIS child. Its a policy that ONLY a caveman could understand It is an excersize in futility to expect you to have a reaonable conversation without insults and emotion governing your responses. I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #58 October 19, 2010 Facts ... Clint... FACTS Preferably not the Facts from the DRUG ADDLED Brain on the EIB Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skyrider 0 #59 October 19, 2010 Quote Quote Quote Quote and what if he was accused of this... http://voices.washingtonpost.com/44/2010/10/graham-obama-is-taking-over-mo.html You guys REALLLY do need to get on Ralph's daily ramblings... for all that strokin away the day. And you need to learn how to respond to the thread... What thread????.. Your Daily ODS threads are all the same... kinda like the scary people under the bed threads.. As I said... yall should get on Ralph's missives from the Fringe Right email lists... OOOPS thats right.. the same level of original thought shows up there... and shows up in here from the same ... usual suspects. As usual, and I think for the 4th time in one thread, a personal attack, but NO comment on teh OP... have you even read it yet? I have my doubtsOK ignore the thread/facts, keep attacking me.....I hope you do the same thing election day..... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skyrider 0 #60 October 19, 2010 Quote Your one warning. Cut it out. Side note here...YOU throw out flamers at posters...., thenthrw out , "your one warning" , at anyone that post just like you....Are there two sets of rule here? One for greens and one for Posters? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skyrider 0 #61 October 19, 2010 Quote>Obama spent in his 1/2 term what bush spent in all 8 of his. US government spending 2001-2008: $34 trillion US government spending 2009-2010: $12 trillion >Can you admit that? It's like a law of nature. The more condescending and snarky a post is, the more likely it is to be wrong. Thank You...By your own Logic, "Amazon" is always wrong....Ya made my day! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
yourmomma 0 #62 October 19, 2010 If obama had cut taxes for 95 % of the working families in america by changing the withholding rates. Would you still scream about higher taxes? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,998 #63 October 19, 2010 >Emphasized the part you must have missed to bring it down to your level So the first three points were not hyperbole, only the last one? If so, it would help to identify which parts of each post are intentionally incorrect. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skyrider 0 #64 October 19, 2010 QuoteIf obama had cut taxes for 95 % of the working families in america by changing the withholding rates. Would you still scream about higher taxes? That made me Dizzy... Are you saying the "employing" class should pay all the taxes ?? OK, that happens , it is called "Withholding" .... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skipbelt 0 #65 October 20, 2010 changing withholding rates does not change tax rates ! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
marks2065 0 #66 October 20, 2010 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuote The question here is are you honest enough to admit that your guy has done more damage to it than anyone - ever? Not until the fucking no minds who voted for the stupid fuckers who set all of the current deficit in order man up and take some of their supposed right wing responsibility and confess your sins against the American people Hmm - so you admit that the truth is there and that you simply refuse to admit it until someone else admits something that happened in the past. Fine - Bush Fucked up - he was a twit as a President, and his policies and the old GOP made some seriously bad decisions. Your turn. Are you going to admit that his policies and budgets are what Obama is still saddled with. The OMB certainly knows the facts. I am sure you might be able to find something that would enlighten you to facts. I know its hard.. but you are not going to find that information in your usual new sources though. Yes - I will admit that Obamas policies and budgets are what Obama is saddled with. Bailouts - Failed Cash For Klunkers - FAILED Heathcare Bill - FAILED (If you don't believe that watch the upcoming elections) Obama spent in his 1/2 term what bush spent in all 8 of his. Can you admit that? You really are not good with economics are you?? Bailouts - Failed <==========Who actually bailed out who.. and now much did it really cost??? Cash For Klunkers - FAILED <==It got POS off the road.. but overall it was goat fuck stupid. Heathcare Bill - FAILED (If you don't believe that watch the upcoming elections) You are right.. it did not go far enough.. because the Fringe Right would not do thier job and work out a TRUE compromise.. which is why we hire the fucking politicians to do a job. OH and just how differnt is the PARTY OF NO's vaunted Healthcare plan???? ZERO difference except for mandated morality to insure when a man rapes his daughter or some other woman.. she is FORCED to have HIS child. Its a policy that ONLY a caveman could understand I guess your parents are really dissapointed in you, after all these years you still can't understand that no can and in many ways is a good thing. like mom and dad telling you no don't touch that hot flame (you didn't listen) no don't do drugs (you really didn't listen) no don't speed ( your head injuries from the accident prove you didn't listen again) no you cannot party all night because you have school in the morning (gues you didn't make it to school) the rep party saying no to government take overs, no to deficit spending, and no to other liberal ideas was, is and will always be the correct action. so the rep's, the party of no, is the right thing to do. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #67 October 20, 2010 Quote the rep party saying no to government take overs, no to deficit spending, and no to other liberal ideas was, is and will always be the correct action. so the rep's, the party of no, is the right thing to do. BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA DUUUUUUUUUUUUUUDE.. what are you smoking?Ronnie RayGun took office with the horrendous debt that Carter had run up to 800 BILLION dollars.. the DEFICIT was about 11 TRILLION dollars when the NeoCon Chickenhawks left office.. WHO THE FUCK do you think ran up that deficit with their deficit spending.. especially for all those COOL Ray Guns.. Air Craft Carriers ( One of them even named after the Alheimers Patient in Chief) B1 Bombers B2 bombers.. Your hero's PROMISE small government... they promise fiscal responsibility,,,, they keep fooling you over and over and over... and you STILL do not get it. What does that say about most conservatives abilities to get fooled or are they just fools???? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,998 #68 October 20, 2010 >the rep party saying no to government take overs, no to deficit spending, > and no to other liberal ideas was, is and will always be the correct action. Given that they started the government takeovers, and spent more on the deficit than any other party in history - sounds like they "just say no" then do it anyway. Which, of course, is why they got booted during the last election. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #69 October 20, 2010 QuoteWhat does that say about most conservatives abilities to get fooled or are they just fools???? Means they've got more sense than the libs, evidently. You keep going on about Reagan - the Democrats controlled the House (you know, the place where spending bills originate) through Reagan, GHW Bush and Clinton until 95. In those 14 years, the debt increased by ~185% (based on 1980 dollars)(Day by day debt numbers unavailable prior to 1993, so the FY debt for the prior year (1980) was used as a starting point.) Republicans took over the House in 95 and held it until 07 - in those 12 years, the debt increased 34% (based on 1995 dollars). Since the Democrats took over the House in 07, the debt has increased by 54% (based on 2007 dollars, debt as of 18 Oct 10).Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #70 October 20, 2010 QuoteQuoteWhat does that say about most conservatives abilities to get fooled or are they just fools???? Means they've got more sense than the libs, evidently. You keep going on about Reagan - the Democrats controlled the House (you know, the place where spending bills originate) through Reagan, GHW Bush and Clinton until 95. In those 14 years, the debt increased by ~185% (based on 1980 dollars)(Day by day debt numbers unavailable prior to 1993, so the FY debt for the prior year (1980) was used as a starting point.) Republicans took over the House in 95 and held it until 07 - in those 12 years, the debt increased 34% (based on 1995 dollars). Since the Democrats took over the House in 07, the debt has increased by 54% (based on 2007 dollars, debt as of 18 Oct 10). Star Wars ring a bell for you Mikee? Iran Contra Ring a bell? The Alzheimers Patient in Cheif sent budgets that certainly were not balanced.. refresh my memory... did he VETO any spending bills???? How about George??? Fool you lots of times.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #71 October 20, 2010 QuoteQuoteQuoteWhat does that say about most conservatives abilities to get fooled or are they just fools???? Means they've got more sense than the libs, evidently. You keep going on about Reagan - the Democrats controlled the House (you know, the place where spending bills originate) through Reagan, GHW Bush and Clinton until 95. In those 14 years, the debt increased by ~185% (based on 1980 dollars)(Day by day debt numbers unavailable prior to 1993, so the FY debt for the prior year (1980) was used as a starting point.) Republicans took over the House in 95 and held it until 07 - in those 12 years, the debt increased 34% (based on 1995 dollars). Since the Democrats took over the House in 07, the debt has increased by 54% (based on 2007 dollars, debt as of 18 Oct 10). Star Wars ring a bell for you Mikee? Iran Contra Ring a bell? The Alzheimers Patient in Cheif sent budgets that certainly were not balanced.. refresh my memory... did he VETO any spending bills???? How about George??? Fool you lots of times.... Can't refute the post, Jeanne?Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #72 October 20, 2010 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteWhat does that say about most conservatives abilities to get fooled or are they just fools???? Means they've got more sense than the libs, evidently. You keep going on about Reagan - the Democrats controlled the House (you know, the place where spending bills originate) through Reagan, GHW Bush and Clinton until 95. In those 14 years, the debt increased by ~185% (based on 1980 dollars)(Day by day debt numbers unavailable prior to 1993, so the FY debt for the prior year (1980) was used as a starting point.) Republicans took over the House in 95 and held it until 07 - in those 12 years, the debt increased 34% (based on 1995 dollars). Since the Democrats took over the House in 07, the debt has increased by 54% (based on 2007 dollars, debt as of 18 Oct 10). Star Wars ring a bell for you Mikee? Iran Contra Ring a bell? The Alzheimers Patient in Cheif sent budgets that certainly were not balanced.. refresh my memory... did he VETO any spending bills???? How about George??? Fool you lots of times.... Can't refute the post, Jeanne? No need to refute a steaming pile.... your how to screw the American people view of conservative government as practiced by those who kept getting fooled in the NEO CON movement... speak volumes. VOO DOO Economics as described by GHWB himself ... has put us where we are today.. and NOW yall want to do more of the same. Look at you.. vested interest in deficit spending to keep the military.. and YOU in a lifestyle you have come to EXPECT. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #73 October 20, 2010 QuoteNo need to refute a steaming pile.... your how to screw the American people view of conservative government as practiced by those who kept getting fooled in the NEO CON movement... speak volumes. Funny how you keep saying that, when the numbers show that it's the DEMS that run up the debt when they have control of the House. QuoteLook at you.. vested interest in deficit spending to keep the military.. and YOU in a lifestyle you have come to EXPECT. Wassamatter, Jeanne... Boeing didn't get a re-up on their contract?Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skyrider 0 #74 October 20, 2010 QuoteQuoteNo need to refute a steaming pile.... your how to screw the American people view of conservative government as practiced by those who kept getting fooled in the NEO CON movement... speak volumes. Funny how you keep saying that, when the numbers show that it's the DEMS that run up the debt when they have control of the House. QuoteLook at you.. vested interest in deficit spending to keep the military.. and YOU in a lifestyle you have come to EXPECT. Wassamatter, Jeanne... Boeing didn't get a re-up on their contract? Ohhhhhh...Union clone/drone !......., now all her post make sense! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #75 October 20, 2010 QuoteQuoteNo need to refute a steaming pile.... your how to screw the American people view of conservative government as practiced by those who kept getting fooled in the NEO CON movement... speak volumes. Funny how you keep saying that, when the numbers show that it's the DEMS that run up the debt when they have control of the House. QuoteLook at you.. vested interest in deficit spending to keep the military.. and YOU in a lifestyle you have come to EXPECT. Wassamatter, Jeanne... Boeing didn't get a re-up on their contract? I realize you don't do well with how the BUGETS of the United States are arrived at. What defense programs have ANY republican administrations since 1980 ever cut or vetoed?? Mike.. come on .. you can't even admit that the best part of your coke snorting, cheerleading, dui arrested, military deserting down home good ole boy hero ran down Barbara's ass in October of 1945. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
