California's Proposition 19. Legal Weed!! What's everyone think?

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No longer will individual farmers produce the best grass they can and the only stuff available will be no better than ditch weed.

There's plenty of real crappy wine for sale, some buy it, but everybody purchases to their taste and budget. So despite the universal availability of all the shitty wine anybody could want, there is also a steady and modestly priced supply of better wines.

Same goes for beer.

Saying that once there is lots of ditch weed available nobody will want the good stuff is like saying since there is lots of Budweiser and Mogen David around nobody will ever buy Heineken or a a fine Bordeaux.

" . . . the lust for power can be just as completely satisfied by suggesting people into loving their servitude as by flogging them and kicking them into obedience." -- Aldous Huxley

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One the one hand, people in general, have difficulty accepting all of life on life's terms and therefore seek some form of mood altering substance as an insulator.

Or they find some good oogie-boogie version of bizarre beliefs to make themselves comfortable with the real world.

" . . . the lust for power can be just as completely satisfied by suggesting people into loving their servitude as by flogging them and kicking them into obedience." -- Aldous Huxley

[doughboyshred 0]

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What someone chooses to do in private is their business.

So a little LSD while he's at a party, the night before he drives that bus with your kids in it is ok . . . well untill that flashback occurs.

Versus a couple pills and a shot?

Get a grip. I want any one driving a bus full of kids to be completely sober. The legality / illegality of a substance has no effect on this.

[billvon 3,031]

>How many flashback from alcohol have you been informed about.

None. With LSD - almost none.

Now, with PTSD, flashbacks are a lot more common. Why, you're right - veterans should be prohibited from driving schoolbuses! And flying and driving, of course. Although to be fair, we'll only ban combat vets.

[ManagingPrime 0]

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>How many flashback from alcohol have you been informed about.

None. With LSD - almost none.

Now, with PTSD, flashbacks are a lot more common. Why, you're right - veterans should be prohibited from driving schoolbuses! And flying and driving, of course. Although to be fair, we'll only ban combat vets.

Some sanity returns to the thread...we should totally outlaw combat vets.

That being said, I'm against it....this year, maybe later.

And why would so many respondents start smoking if it's legal? That answer to the poll just seems odd.

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>How many flashback from alcohol have you been informed about.

None. With LSD - almost none.

Now, with PTSD, flashbacks are a lot more common. Why, you're right - veterans should be prohibited from driving schoolbuses! And flying and driving, of course. Although to be fair, we'll only ban combat vets.

Some sanity returns to the thread...we should totally outlaw combat vets.

That being said, I'm against it....this year, maybe later.

And why would so many respondents start smoking if it's legal? That answer to the poll just seems odd.

Nah think about all those who feel that once its legal... they would not have to worry about being bubba's bitch in jail..

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>How many flashback from alcohol have you been informed about.

None. With LSD - almost none.

Now, with PTSD, flashbacks are a lot more common. Why, you're right - veterans should be prohibited from driving schoolbuses! And flying and driving, of course. Although to be fair, we'll only ban combat vets.

So you want your kids bud driver doing LSD and or hallucinagenics the night before you drop them off at the bus stop? Seriously?

Here's one for you -

HONESTLY?

I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama
BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun

[ManagingPrime 0]

What state do they live in...it's a traffic ticket for less than an oz most everywhere I've ever lived. Seems like extreme risk aversion...for skydivers.

[billvon 3,031]

>So you want your kids bud driver doing LSD and or hallucinagenics the
>night before you drop them off at the bus stop? Seriously?

Nope.

Are you honestly saying you're OK with your kid's bus driver drinking a fifth of Jack Daniels the night before you drop them off at the bus stop? Seriously? HONESTLY?

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>So you want your kids bud driver doing LSD and or hallucinagenics the
>night before you drop them off at the bus stop? Seriously?

Nope.

Are you honestly saying you're OK with your kid's bus driver drinking a fifth of Jack Daniels the night before you drop them off at the bus stop? Seriously? HONESTLY?

I would trust them the same as I always did. If there is time for the alcohol to be matabolized, then there is no issue. If they are sober and alert, no issue. It's not my preference, but I don't feel there would be a problem.

That said - I quit letting my daughter ride the bus after the bus driver side swiped her second car.

I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama
BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun

[billvon 3,031]

> If they are sober and alert, no issue.

Agreed - in both cases.

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One the one hand, people in general, have difficulty accepting all of life on life's terms and therefore seek some form of mood altering substance as an insulator.

Or they find some good oogie-boogie version of bizarre beliefs to make themselves comfortable with the real world.

Sometimes there are oogie-boogies in the real world.

2 Corinthians 2:14
Now thanks be unto God, which always causeth us to triumph in Christ, and maketh manifest the savour of his knowledge by us in every place.

Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them.

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What state do they live in...it's a traffic ticket for less than an oz most everywhere I've ever lived. Seems like extreme risk aversion...for skydivers.

Lots of people have other issues as well. I would lose my job if I was arrested for drugs. I also have a custody situation that a drug arrest could negatively impact.

For myself, I am not interested in smoking weed (I am a runner) but I think it should be legal. If it were, I think a lot of people with issues like mine could smoke without fear of repucussions.

"What if there were no hypothetical questions?"

[airdvr 210]

What is this flashback thing you're referring to? Sadly I am an expert in the long term effects of a bunch of illegal drugs when I was younger and I can say I'm still waiting for a flashback. Never had one.

And, I don't think we're talking about legalizing purple microdot here.

Please don't dent the planet.

Destinations by Roxanne

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What is this flashback thing you're referring to? Sadly I am an expert in the long term effects of a bunch of illegal drugs when I was younger and I can say I'm still waiting for a flashback. Never had one.

And, I don't think we're talking about legalizing purple microdot here.

In an ironic twist, weed has been shown to reduce the occurence of flashbacks for people with PTSD.

" . . . the lust for power can be just as completely satisfied by suggesting people into loving their servitude as by flogging them and kicking them into obedience." -- Aldous Huxley

[normiss 818]

In Florida it's possible jail time and a 2 year driver license suspension for simple possession.

Over an ounce is a felony.

Has fucked up many a high school kids' life.

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What someone chooses to do in private is their business.

So a little LSD while he's at a party, the night before he drives that bus with your kids in it is ok . . . well untill that flashback occurs.

Last time I checked, LSD was not in Prop 19.

He wasn't specific -

See the first quoted post at the top of this reply.

I'm with Bill's read on my comment. And since it's my comment, I'm pretty sure that's the correct way to read it. Your strawhorse is interesting, but really you're just being contentious. I'm not a fan of people picking at posts and reinterpreting just to set up false debate. You're better at this than to resort to those tactics.

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Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants

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like saying since there is lots of Budweiser and Mogen David around nobody will ever buy Heineken or a a fine Bordeaux.

Heineken is the equivalent of ditch weed. Hell, they make it smell like rotten beer - on purpose. Any better example?

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Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants

[normiss 818]

Agreed. Ptui.

Terrapin on the other hand.....

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Agreed. Ptui.

Terrapin on the other hand.....

I havesadly yet to partake in my namesake.

Someone should send me a case.

Back to the topic:
Remwha:

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I'm with Bill's read on my comment. And since it's my comment, I'm pretty sure that's the correct way to read it. Your strawhorse is interesting, but really you're just being contentious.

Probably true.

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I'm not a fan of people picking at posts and reinterpreting just to set up false debate.

Yet we see you in so may of these threads

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You're better at this than to resort to those tactics.

Oh, I think that there are quite a few that would disagree with you on this point.

I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama
BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun

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I'm not a fan of people picking at posts and reinterpreting just to set up false debate.

Yet we see you in so may of these threads

ha, you got me, I do lurk

it is the favorite technique of S.C. though - so I get to see it often. But normally, it's just about 6 of our more prevalent types. Billvon's particularly good at it, so are a couple others. When done well, it's almost entertainment.

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Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants

[RonD1120 62]

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In Florida it's possible jail time and a 2 year driver license suspension for simple possession.

Over an ounce is a felony.

Has fucked up many a high school kids' life.

I worked in and managed outpatient treatment programs in FL for court ordered clients. You are right on, a possession charge can wreck your life plan.

Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them.

[Nightingale 0]

CNN has an interesting analysis today.

http://www.cnn.com/2010/OPINION/10/19/miron.prop.19/index.html?hpt=T2

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What is this flashback thing you're referring to? Sadly I am an expert in the long term effects of a bunch of illegal drugs when I was younger and I can say I'm still waiting for a flashback. Never had one.

And, I don't think we're talking about legalizing purple microdot here.

Oh shush.... I mean he saw Reefer Madness once... and obviously knows all there is to know about all drug induced effects from that fine documentary.

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What is this flashback thing you're referring to? Sadly I am an expert in the long term effects of a bunch of illegal drugs when I was younger and I can say I'm still waiting for a flashback. Never had one.

And, I don't think we're talking about legalizing purple microdot here.

Oh shush.... I mean he saw Reefer Madness once... and obviously knows all there is to know about all drug induced effects from that fine documentary.

Uh huh.

I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama
BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun