Andy9o8 2 #151 October 26, 2010 QuoteGive a mouse a cookie and he's going to want a glass of milk . . . Teach a mouse to bake, and you feed him for a lifetime. http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_l57dohld191qapkmyo1_500.jpg Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #152 October 26, 2010 So far you've brought exactly zero to the table in terms of conversation. You keep saying you're going to make some sort of point, but you never do. Get on with it.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,990 #153 October 26, 2010 >They are equally important! No, they're not. See if you can find the last time a law was struck down due to issues of incompatibility to the Declaration of Independence. >Had we followed our Founders, things would be different. Yep. We'd still have slaves, for one thing. Women wouldn't be able to vote or own property. Sunday would not be a day off. There would be no foreign wars of aggression. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dmcoco84 5 #154 October 26, 2010 QuoteYep. We'd still have slaves, for one thing. Women wouldn't be able to vote or own property Oh, really...? So... are you one who believes our Founding Fathers were just evil selfish rich white slave owners? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 2 #155 October 26, 2010 QuoteQuoteYep. We'd still have slaves, for one thing. Women wouldn't be able to vote or own property Oh, really...? So... are you one who believes our Founding Fathers were just evil selfish rich white slave owners? Why don't you just ask him if he's stopped beating his wife? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Prior23 0 #156 October 26, 2010 QuoteQuoteYep. We'd still have slaves, for one thing. Women wouldn't be able to vote or own property Oh, really...? So... are you one who believes our Founding Fathers were just evil selfish rich white slave owners? Our founding fathers were not evil by owning slaves and not allowing woman to own property, this is just what society did back in these times due events in the past. In ancient Greece woman were not allowed to buy anything without a male supervisor present with them at all times. It is just how things were back then and we have started to open our minds up and give equal rights to all. There's no correlation between woman not having rights and that being an evil thing, given the right time period, things have now changed.B.A.S.E. #1734 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skipbelt 0 #157 October 26, 2010 yeah cause he never uses those tactics ! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dmcoco84 5 #158 October 26, 2010 Actually... that is a legitimate and serious question. If you know what Progressivism is, and its origins... it makes sense. But so far, none of the predominate (arrogant) voices; like Billvon, Quade, Lucky, and so on... have been able to correctly answer my questions. One of three key things that Progressives must achieve... understood and crafted by Woodrow Wilson... to enable them to “progress” to their goals... is to separate the public from the Founders. Jefferson was a hypocritical slave owner... Franklin was out having sex with numerous women... Washington was a deist, he didn’t believe in God. These are just some of things that are said... If you can separate the American people from the Founders... and separate them from their founding principles... you can control and manipulate, far easier. Like Nancy Pelosi, manipulating the meaning of, “the Pursuit of Happiness.” Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skipbelt 0 #159 October 27, 2010 i like where you're going with this , i'll support wherever i can ! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dmcoco84 5 #160 October 29, 2010 I have a question for Hillary Clinton... 00:42 - 01:29. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C2oOoCdFblc The Progressive Era...? Look back at history? Hmm... like, with Woodrow Wilson? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skipbelt 0 #161 October 29, 2010 libs hate liberal , which they are , they are attempting to run up mileage on the progressive mask . they never will tell what they are desiring to progress to !did you see how slippery obuma was on taking foreign money ? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dmcoco84 5 #162 October 29, 2010 Well... kinda. Progressive was a good term for Wilson. After they dirtyed it... and the American people saw thier goals (like rejecting Wilson's League of Nations, and the 2nd Bill of Rights with FDR), they changed to liberal. Now they have done the same with the term Liberal... so they are back to saying Progressive. Its all the same thing, its a wording game. Lot of coding in her words... progressives are not for civil liberties... I will prove that with Teddy's words. Not interested past 01:29 seconds Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
juanesky 0 #163 October 29, 2010 Quote Well... kinda. Progressive was a good term for Wilson. After they dirtyed it... and the American people saw thier goals (like rejecting Wilson's League of Nations, and the 2nd Bill of Rights with FDR), they changed to liberal. Now they have done the same with the term Liberal... so they are back to saying Progressive. Its all the same thing, its a wording game. Lot of coding in her words... progressives are not for civil liberties... I will prove that with Teddy's words. Not interested past 01:29 seconds So, do you think it is progressive in the sense of becoming intolerant to any other point of different than theirs?"According to some of the conservatives here, it sounds like it's fine to beat your wide - as long as she had it coming." -Billvon Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dmcoco84 5 #164 October 29, 2010 Not totally sure what you mean... Progressives... Lindsey Graham, McCain, Pelosi, Clinton X 2, Reed, Kerry, Obama, Grayson and so on... They look back, as Hillary said, at the Progressives of the 19th (Teddy) and early 20th century (Wilson, FDR) and they are using their playbook and tactics, but have learned from their mistakes. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dmcoco84 5 #165 October 29, 2010 Rep. Sheila Jackson Lee +1 Progressive http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1010/44331.html Really Sheila? Really? Wonder if she and Holder discussed those Black Panther's? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
juanesky 0 #166 October 29, 2010 What I meant to say, and looks to me, the more they say "progressive" the less tolerant of diverse ideas they become. "According to some of the conservatives here, it sounds like it's fine to beat your wide - as long as she had it coming." -Billvon Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dmcoco84 5 #168 October 29, 2010 Quote Progressives... Lindsey Graham, McCain, Pelosi, Clinton X 2, Reed, Kerry, Obama, Grayson and so on... Ouch! I left out the Bush's! I should be ashamed of myself... I must have been really tired... +2 Progressives Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dmcoco84 5 #169 February 8, 2011 Too Funny! The Tea Party is more dangerous than Muslim Brotherhood. http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=7ZEVfbolYIY Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
