jclalor 12 #1 October 23, 2010 With the latest documents from Iraq, the trillion dollars we spent for the war seems like a better investment each day. http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/2010/10/23/2010-10-23_iraqi_info_leaks_out_on_wiki.html Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tkhayes 348 #2 October 23, 2010 can't wait to see what they dig up now..... War is hell - all the more reason why we should be avoiding it at all cost, rather than 'defending ourselves' at a ll cost...... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skyrider 0 #3 October 23, 2010 Quotecan't wait to see what they dig up now..... War is hell - all the more reason why we should be avoiding it at all cost, rather than 'defending ourselves' at a ll cost...... So just let (Flame of libs) Radical Muslims take over? that is their goal ...just stop fighting, we all beecome Muslim, and live in peace...Ohhh, other than for women, they will be slaves...and of course our daughters, they will be barter...BUT, Us men...hell yeah...we will be in heaven! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tkhayes 348 #4 October 23, 2010 Somewhat (extremely) delusional to think that the US is going to be taken over by anyone other than fundamentalist right wing Christians Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skyrider 0 #5 October 23, 2010 Quote Somewhat (extremely) delusional to think that the US is going to be taken over by anyone other than fundamentalist right wing Christians YOU seem totally delusional, to think that "radicals" will stop, if we stop fighting them..Noo, not delusional.....Idiotic!Do you understand what "Radical " means? We are not talking "muslims" we are tlking "Radical Muslims" , stop being a PC fuckin idiot, and watch the news..."Radical Muslims" do want to take over the world, UNLESS stopped! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tkhayes 348 #6 October 23, 2010 the world is filled with radicals trying to take over the world and we cannot fight them all - ignoring them might actually work better given that the security level is still 'yellow' or 'orange' whatever, the trillion we have spent already does not appear ot have done fuck all. so instead of calling names- maybe you could back up your point with something substantial...... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,032 #7 October 23, 2010 Quote Quote Somewhat (extremely) delusional to think that the US is going to be taken over by anyone other than fundamentalist right wing Christians YOU seem totally delusional, to think that "radicals" will stop, if we stop fighting them..Noo, not delusional.....Idiotic!Do you understand what "Radical " means? We are not talking "muslims" we are tlking "Radical Muslims" , stop being a PC fuckin idiot, and watch the news..."Radical Muslims" do want to take over the world, UNLESS stopped! The leaks illustrate pretty clearly the lies that you warmongers bought into.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
grimmie 186 #8 October 23, 2010 The Pentagon wasn't too broken up when this young lady was killed in Iraq. She was compiling a list of civilian casualties that the Bush administration did not want to get out. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/7537845 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skipbelt 0 #9 October 23, 2010 QuoteWith the latest documents from Iraq, the trillion dollars we spent for the war seems like a better investment each day.http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/2010/10/23/2010-10-23_iraqi_info_leaks_out_on_wiki.htmli'm seeing the light about why libs love wiki inow if we could only combine islam with mormon , a heyday for men , women , not so much . gays , well i wouldn't want to be in their shoes. achi'minthemoodforjihad says there are none in iran. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 2 #10 October 23, 2010 Quoteif we could only combine islam with mormon then we could all wear funny underwear that covers our faces Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
434 2 #11 October 23, 2010 Just a pic that comes to mind. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skipbelt 0 #12 October 23, 2010 QuoteWith the latest documents from Iraq, the trillion dollars we spent for the war seems like a better investment each day.http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/2010/10/23/2010-10-23_iraqi_info_leaks_out_on_wiki.htmlwkileaks discloses there are WMD...http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/the_daily_dish/2010/10/chemical-weapons-were-found-in-iraq.html Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #13 October 24, 2010 Quote Quote Quote Somewhat (extremely) delusional to think that the US is going to be taken over by anyone other than fundamentalist right wing Christians YOU seem totally delusional, to think that "radicals" will stop, if we stop fighting them..Noo, not delusional.....Idiotic!Do you understand what "Radical " means? We are not talking "muslims" we are tlking "Radical Muslims" , stop being a PC fuckin idiot, and watch the news..."Radical Muslims" do want to take over the world, UNLESS stopped! The leaks illustrate pretty clearly the lies that you warmongers bought into. Oh pleeeeease... don't you mean CHICKENHAWK warmongers. Seems a lot of them made out like bandits though ... since theyor their children are not the ones who actually had to go to war Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skipbelt 0 #14 October 24, 2010 my son rotates to afghanistan next year . if i were called back to active duty it would be an instantaneous affirmative . i'd like to have some say in occupation , otherwise no reservations ! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #15 October 24, 2010 Quote my son rotates to afghanistan next year . if i were called back to active duty it would be an instantaneous affirmative . i'd like to have some say in occupation , otherwise no reservations ! Now if you coulde just get all the Young Republicans to folow suit rather than following in the footsteps of their mentors in the last administration good solid Cheney Republicans Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 2 #16 October 24, 2010 Quotemy son rotates to afghanistan next year . if i were called back to active duty it would be an instantaneous affirmative . i'd like to have some say in occupation , otherwise no reservations ! Knowledge is power, Skip. As a citizen of a democratic republic, in which government is not only FOR the people, but OF the people, you - you personally - are one of your government's employers. As a practical matter, the only way that you can truly have have a genuine say in the occupation (which is your right) is to be possessed with sufficient information to make an informed decision. Censorship is the antithesis of knowledge, which means that it is in irreconcilable conflict with your prerogative under the Constitution to participate - via vote, discourse and petition, for example - in the governance of your nation. Incidentally, before you engage in more ideological conflict with Kallend over this and similar issues, you should know that he is the father of a son who recently served a deployment to Iraq with the Airborne, so you and he share at least one common perspective: father of a son sent by the nation's government into harm's way in a foreign land. He understands what is truly at stake just as you do. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skipbelt 0 #17 October 24, 2010 Quote Quote my son rotates to afghanistan next year . if i were called back to active duty it would be an instantaneous affirmative . i'd like to have some say in occupation , otherwise no reservations ! Now if you coulde just get all the Young Republicans to folow suit rather than following in the footsteps of their mentors in the last administration good solid Cheney Republicans have you read the book chickenhawk ? also , i noticed you posted a link , this after whining about link posting . libs do that a lot . i am amazed how some people get away with so many PA's ! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RonD1120 62 #18 October 24, 2010 WASHINGTON – The enormous cache of secret war logs disclosed by the WikiLeaks website paints a picture of an Iraq burdened by persistent sectarian tension and meddling neighbors, suggesting that the country could drift into chaos once U.S. forces leave. The reports, covering early 2004 to Jan. 1, 2010, help explain why Iraq's struggle to create a unified, independent state continues, despite a dramatic reduction in violence. They appear to support arguments by some experts that the U.S. should keep thousands of troops there beyond their scheduled departure in 2011, to buy more time for Iraq to become stable. http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20101024/ap_on_go_ca_st_pe/wikileaks In this AM's news. Seems like this puts BHO in a conflict, well, an expanding conflict. That is, if he pulls the troops out as promised, the country collapses and makes former President Bush look more favorable. If he keeps the troops in Iraq longer he loses more favor from his electorate.Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jclalor 12 #19 October 24, 2010 Quote***Quote WASHINGTON – The enormous cache of secret war logs disclosed by the WikiLeaks website paints a picture of an Iraq burdened by persistent sectarian tension and meddling neighbors, suggesting that the country could drift into chaos once U.S. forces leave. The reports, covering early 2004 to Jan. 1, 2010, help explain why Iraq's struggle to create a unified, independent state continues, despite a dramatic reduction in violence. They appear to support arguments by some experts that the U.S. should keep thousands of troops there beyond their scheduled departure in 2011, to buy more time for Iraq to become stable. http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20101024/ap_on_go_ca_st_pe/wikileaks In this AM's news. Seems like this puts BHO in a conflict, well, an expanding conflict. That is, if he pulls the troops out as promised, the country collapses and makes former President Bush look more favorable. If he keeps the troops in Iraq longer he loses more favor from his electorate. Most thinking people from the beginning of the war in Iraq knew that unless we stayed forever, the country would desolve into sectarian violence. BHO is in a straight up catch 22 and since the country is going to desolve into chaos at some point anyways, he should pull out asap. The whole theory from the beginning with Bush was nothing more than holding your finger in the dike. The same idiots who think he is a Kenyan born Islamic commie will blame him anyways no matter what he does . We need to get out of Iraq and scale down in Afghanistan, How much have we spent between those two shit hole places? With that kind of money we could provide unemployment benefits forever and with the money left over give universal health care for pets. The only winners in the war are the Shia and Iran. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RonD1120 62 #20 October 24, 2010 QuoteQuote***Quote WASHINGTON – The enormous cache of secret war logs disclosed by the WikiLeaks website paints a picture of an Iraq burdened by persistent sectarian tension and meddling neighbors, suggesting that the country could drift into chaos once U.S. forces leave. The reports, covering early 2004 to Jan. 1, 2010, help explain why Iraq's struggle to create a unified, independent state continues, despite a dramatic reduction in violence. They appear to support arguments by some experts that the U.S. should keep thousands of troops there beyond their scheduled departure in 2011, to buy more time for Iraq to become stable. http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20101024/ap_on_go_ca_st_pe/wikileaks In this AM's news. Seems like this puts BHO in a conflict, well, an expanding conflict. That is, if he pulls the troops out as promised, the country collapses and makes former President Bush look more favorable. If he keeps the troops in Iraq longer he loses more favor from his electorate. Most thinking people from the beginning of the war in Iraq knew that unless we stayed forever, The country would desolve into sectarian violence. BHO is in a straight up catch 22 and since the country is going to desolve into chaos at some point anyways, he should pull out asap. The whole theory from the beginning with Bush was nothing more than holding your finger in the dike. The same idiots who think he is a Kenyan born Islamic commie will blame him anyways no matter what he does . We need to get out of Iraq and scale down in Afghanistan, How much have we spent between those two shit hole places? With that kind of money we could provide unemployment benefits forever and with the money left over give universal health care for pets. The only winners in the war are the Shia and Iran. Me thinks you are correct.Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
grimmie 186 #21 October 24, 2010 QuoteQuote***Quote WASHINGTON – The enormous cache of secret war logs disclosed by the WikiLeaks website paints a picture of an Iraq burdened by persistent sectarian tension and meddling neighbors, suggesting that the country could drift into chaos once U.S. forces leave. The reports, covering early 2004 to Jan. 1, 2010, help explain why Iraq's struggle to create a unified, independent state continues, despite a dramatic reduction in violence. They appear to support arguments by some experts that the U.S. should keep thousands of troops there beyond their scheduled departure in 2011, to buy more time for Iraq to become stable. http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20101024/ap_on_go_ca_st_pe/wikileaks In this AM's news. Seems like this puts BHO in a conflict, well, an expanding conflict. That is, if he pulls the troops out as promised, the country collapses and makes former President Bush look more favorable. If he keeps the troops in Iraq longer he loses more favor from his electorate. Most thinking people from the beginning of the war in Iraq knew that unless we stayed forever, the country would desolve into sectarian violence. BHO is in a straight up catch 22 and since the country is going to desolve into chaos at some point anyways, he should pull out asap. The whole theory from the beginning with Bush was nothing more than holding your finger in the dike. The same idiots who think he is a Kenyan born Islamic commie will blame him anyways no matter what he does . We need to get out of Iraq and scale down in Afghanistan, How much have we spent between those two shit hole places? With that kind of money we could provide unemployment benefits forever and with the money left over give universal health care for pets. The only winners in the war are the Shia and Iran AND HALIBURTON, BLACKWATER and KBR. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skipbelt 0 #22 October 25, 2010 choosing lifestyle over country , the original wikileaker...http://www.nytimes.com/2010/08/09/us/09manning.html?_r=1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nanook 1 #23 October 25, 2010 I wouldn't say lifestyle. I would say an anti-social bad attitude with narccisictic issues. He probably loved "Catcher in the Rye". If he was straight, he probably would have been the same._____________________________ "The trouble with quotes on the internet is that you can never know if they are genuine" - Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skipbelt 0 #24 October 25, 2010 that analysis is at least equally valid as mine i must concede ! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Belgian_Draft 0 #25 October 25, 2010 Quote the world is filled with radicals trying to take over the world and we cannot fight them all - ignoring them might actually work better given that the security level is still 'yellow' or 'orange' whatever, the trillion we have spent already does not appear ot have done fuck all. so instead of calling names- maybe you could back up your point with something substantial...... We ignored Hitler. That worked out well. HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites