rushmc 23 #1 October 28, 2010 Well, this would be a good damned start http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/10/28/buffalo-ny-teachers-spend-m-taxpayer-cash-cosmetic-surgery/ QuoteBuffalo, N.Y. Teachers Spend $9M in Taxpayer Cash in '09 on Cosmetic Surgery"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Remster 30 #2 October 28, 2010 Quote Well, this would be a good damned starthttp://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/10/28/buffalo-ny-teachers-spend-m-taxpayer-cash-cosmetic-surgery/ Quote Buffalo, N.Y. Teachers Spend $9M in Taxpayer Cash in '09 on Cosmetic Surgery Damm those libs who wont agree with you.... Oh, wait.... Quote The president of the Buffalo Teachers Federation said the union has agreed to give up the benefit in the next contract Remster Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skyrider 0 #3 October 28, 2010 In thsi day and age...Our "Preisdent" should never need to leave the office, imagin how many Millions saved in unneeded trips.... We have a fucking internet...Use it instead of renting 500 rooms for the Pres. to go do face to face's (bullshit, they are vacations) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #4 October 28, 2010 Quote Quote Well, this would be a good damned starthttp://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/10/28/buffalo-ny-teachers-spend-m-taxpayer-cash-cosmetic-surgery/ Quote Buffalo, N.Y. Teachers Spend $9M in Taxpayer Cash in '09 on Cosmetic Surgery Damm those libs who wont agree with you.... Oh, wait.... Quote The president of the Buffalo Teachers Federation said the union has agreed to give up the benefit in the next contract Cool Did they agree to pay the 9M back?"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,991 #5 October 29, 2010 >We have a fucking internet...Use it instead of renting 500 rooms >for the Pres. to go do face to face's (bullshit, they are vacations) Then the president would skip some military ceremony and the right wingers would cry "why does he hate the military so much? He can't even be bothered to show up to pay his respects to the people who actually sacrificed so he could foist his socialist blah blah blah." He's the leader of the US, and is the person the US Constitution gives the power to negotiate treaties. He has to occasionally show up for stuff. Now - how about we cut our military budget by 1/3? We could start by cutting these if you are really against traveling: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/07/17/AR2008071703161.html Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skipbelt 0 #6 October 29, 2010 entitlements are 55% of budget ! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
juanesky 0 #7 October 29, 2010 Quote Well, this would be a good damned starthttp://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/10/28/buffalo-ny-teachers-spend-m-taxpayer-cash-cosmetic-surgery/ Quote Buffalo, N.Y. Teachers Spend $9M in Taxpayer Cash in '09 on Cosmetic Surgery I would not cut, but rather snip, like in vasectomy/tying fallopian tubes, to stop the liberal gene proliferation...."According to some of the conservatives here, it sounds like it's fine to beat your wide - as long as she had it coming." -Billvon Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skipbelt 0 #8 October 29, 2010 work the lib gene angle ! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GQ_jumper 4 #9 October 29, 2010 Quote>We have a fucking internet...Use it instead of renting 500 rooms >for the Pres. to go do face to face's (bullshit, they are vacations) Then the president would skip some military ceremony and the right wingers would cry "why does he hate the military so much? He can't even be bothered to show up to pay his respects to the people who actually sacrificed so he could foist his socialist blah blah blah." He's the leader of the US, and is the person the US Constitution gives the power to negotiate treaties. He has to occasionally show up for stuff. Now - how about we cut our military budget by 1/3? We could start by cutting these if you are really against traveling: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/07/17/AR2008071703161.html How bout we focus on the things like the first lady's trip to the Grand Canyon, and the date night in NY, the pres. even admitted to looking for excuses to fly in A.F.1. Now as for your proposed military cuts, the Air Force itself is a waste of funds, they are a joke a military organization, don't do anything asked of them and constantly waste money. Get rid of the Air Force. The Navy and Marines can pull the CAS duties, and we can contract civilians to do the personnel and equipment movements. And I would be willing to bet if we had contracts with money on the line for failing to move personnel and equipment ON TIME things would get done as opposed to the Air Force who has never once in my military career done something on time. I've even seen Air Force crews fake breakdowns to get a night off at a cool location and pretend to have mission critical repairs that can only be done at their home station which conveniently coincided with the concert they told us they would do everything necessary to make it to. And while we're on the topic of useless organizations, why do we spend millions on a parachute team that can't win anything and contributes nothing to the military? Nix the golden showers and we'd save a hefty chunk of change. Cowardice is punishable in the military anyways so shouldn't simply volunteering for that organization be considered an act of it?History does not long entrust the care of freedom to the weak or the timid. --Dwight D. Eisenhower Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
popsjumper 2 #10 October 29, 2010 ...the bottom out of all the pork barrelsMy reality and yours are quite different. I think we're all Bozos on this bus. Falcon5232, SCS8170, SCSA353, POPS9398, DS239 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Casurf1978 0 #11 October 29, 2010 Do you know how much an average teacher makes in NYC school district? Last I saw it was around 42K, which is not a lot of money. I was making more than that first year out of college and that was close to 10 years ago. BFD if they have health insurance that covers cosmetic surgery. If we can't give them a decent salary, might as well give them excellent benefits. The DOD budget accounts for 4.3% of our GDP. I'm sure there are a lot of programs that we don't need, but the right-wing gets all pissed when we even mention that we need to cut their budget. I say we start there. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BIGUN 1,307 #12 October 29, 2010 What is needed is the removal of incremental budgeting and the implementation of zero-based budgeting on both sides of the aisle. Personally, I still scratch my head at the need for 16 separate Intelligence Agencies and a DNI whose job it is to collate the information from those agencies, back to those agencies. Nobody has time to listen; because they're desperately chasing the need of being heard. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,991 #13 October 29, 2010 >entitlements are 55% of budget ! Yes, they are. Would you cut veteran's hospitals? Or is that one of your "sacred cow" entitlements? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,489 #14 October 29, 2010 QuoteIn thsi day and age...Our "Preisdent" should never need to leave the office, imagin how many Millions saved in unneeded trips.... We have a fucking internet...Use it instead of renting 500 rooms for the Pres. to go do face to face's (bullshit, they are vacations) So when you said Obama skipping Memorial Day and D-Day was proof he didn't love America you meant... ?Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shropshire 0 #15 October 29, 2010 Get the money from the wanker bankers (.)Y(.) Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 2 #16 October 29, 2010 Quotewanker bankers bet u can't say that 5 times real fast Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #17 October 29, 2010 QuoteGet the money from the wanker bankers Ok, so take more instead of spending less is your answer"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skyrider 0 #18 October 29, 2010 Quote>entitlements are 55% of budget ! Yes, they are. Would you cut veteran's hospitals? Or is that one of your "sacred cow" entitlements? Another huge stretch, the Military has EARNED what they get....Welfare families have not! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
juanesky 0 #19 October 29, 2010 Quote >entitlements are 55% of budget ! Yes, they are. Would you cut veteran's hospitals? Or is that one of your "sacred cow" entitlements? I wouldn't mind as long as the people receiving welfare are kept being evaluated to the same ethical standards we are subjected to, such as, drug tests, crimes, no benefits if there is dishonorable conduct, etc. But you still comparing 1% or 2% of the population. It sounds about right, we have been just like the a great majority of welfare recipients, (the ones that live on that through generations), we make the no effort on our part. Be trade food stamps for beer.... Thank you, for reminding me."According to some of the conservatives here, it sounds like it's fine to beat your wide - as long as she had it coming." -Billvon Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 2 #20 October 29, 2010 Quotethe Military has EARNED what they get Individual service personnel have earned everything they get. The bloated military-industrial complex has not. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skyrider 0 #21 October 29, 2010 QuoteQuotethe Military has EARNED what they get Individual service personnel have earned everything they get. The bloated military-industrial complex has not. Well, the bloated 900 dollar toilet seat shit , has been going on far too long...Over paying on contracts , should be handled like any crime of inside trading! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shropshire 0 #22 October 29, 2010 QuoteQuoteGet the money from the wanker bankers Ok, so take more instead of spending less is your answer No my suggestion is to go after the bastards that caused the problems that we're all facing and paying for (through no fault of our own) .. Whilst they sit on their smug backsides and continue to receive greed bonuses. (.)Y(.) Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #23 October 29, 2010 QuoteQuoteQuoteGet the money from the wanker bankers Ok, so take more instead of spending less is your answer No my suggestion is to go after the bastards that caused the problems that we're all facing and paying for (through no fault of our own) .. Whilst they sit on their smug backsides and continue to receive greed bonuses. We are taking care of those bastards But they are not in banks (for the most part) the bastards that need taken care of are in the halls of our congress Tuesday will be a good start. And then we will have to keep a close eye on the news ones going there"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
marks2065 0 #24 October 29, 2010 QuoteDo you know how much an average teacher makes in NYC school district? Last I saw it was around 42K, which is not a lot of money. I was making more than that first year out of college and that was close to 10 years ago. BFD if they have health insurance that covers cosmetic surgery. If we can't give them a decent salary, might as well give them excellent benefits. The DOD budget accounts for 4.3% of our GDP. I'm sure there are a lot of programs that we don't need, but the right-wing gets all pissed when we even mention that we need to cut their budget. I say we start there. 42k average? I know about 30-50 million people that would love to make 40-50k for only working 9 months a year. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,026 #25 October 29, 2010 QuoteQuote>entitlements are 55% of budget ! Yes, they are. Would you cut veteran's hospitals? Or is that one of your "sacred cow" entitlements? Another huge stretch, the Military has EARNED what they get....Welfare families have not! How much would be saved (actual dollar amount) by cutting "welfare", and define exactly which programs you consider welfare (for example, is Social Security "welfare" in your opinion?)... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites