skyrider 0 #76 November 9, 2010 QuoteQuote Why would you bother with a reserve? USPA tells me I have to So....If big brother wasn;t watching out for you...You'd jump without it? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnnyMarko 1 #77 November 9, 2010 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteIf you had been watching the news for the last 20 years, you might have noticed a few stories about mass shootings at schools... No way? That has happened outside my protective bubble I live in on my campus? If a law passes allowing everyone to carry a gun, everyone is going to rush out and get one because they feel like they will need to protect themselves from all the other people who went out and bought guns. Knee Jerk often? Pacifist, (which you seem to be one) will be much safeer with armed people around them! Like the 35 full time police officers employed on my campus. If there is no threat..."why" do you need 35 armed police officers? Too issue hundreds of drinking tickets and speeding tickets. And they take care of the possible threat, not a bunch of students with concealed weapons trying to solve it themselves. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 226 #78 November 9, 2010 QuoteQuote Why would you bother with a reserve? USPA tells me I have to Ah, so, you wouldn't wear a reserve if they didn't? Or, perhaps, it's better to allow those that want to, to carry them.I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnnyMarko 1 #79 November 9, 2010 QuoteQuoteQuote Why would you bother with a reserve? USPA tells me I have to So....If big brother wasn;t watching out for you...You'd jump without it? Yes Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skyrider 0 #80 November 9, 2010 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuote Why would you bother with a reserve? USPA tells me I have to So....If big brother wasn;t watching out for you...You'd jump without it? Yes Then look at armed civilians as your big brother, they can protect you, even though you wont do it for yourself! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
scruffy 0 #81 November 9, 2010 These laws are not aimed at arming students, but rather extending the rights to carry to college campuses for adults who are concealed carry license holders. This may sound like semantics, but it is actually a pretty important distinction, you have to realize that many of your colleagues (if you go to a school in a shall issue state) are likely concealed carry permit holders already who have had their ability to lawfully carry restricted arbitrarily to outside of the walls of your college. All these laws do is correct that disservice, and allow CCW holders to more fully exercise their freedom from fear, and defense from would be criminals.Peace, love and hoppiness Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 226 #82 November 9, 2010 QuoteQuote Why would you bother with a reserve? USPA tells me I have to I believe you mean the FAA, but I suppose it would be a common mistake. OK - does the USPA tell you you have to wear a cypress? i see by your profile you wear one. Or you lie.I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnnyMarko 1 #83 November 9, 2010 QuoteQuoteQuote Why would you bother with a reserve? USPA tells me I have to Ah, so, you wouldn't wear a reserve if they didn't? Or, perhaps, it's better to allow those that want to, to carry them. Because a reserve is the same as a loaded gun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 226 #84 November 9, 2010 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuote Why would you bother with a reserve? USPA tells me I have to Ah, so, you wouldn't wear a reserve if they didn't? Or, perhaps, it's better to allow those that want to, to carry them. Because a reserve is the same as a loaded gun In perspective, yes it is. If I am doing what I am supposed to be doing and something wants to take my life or endanger my health like a malfunctioning parachute, I want protection.I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,072 #85 November 9, 2010 >Could you link to where the data shows that carrying a weapon on campus >makes you drunk? I'll let you play the Turtle game with yourself. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
scruffy 0 #86 November 9, 2010 How many active shooters on college campuses have been stopped by school police officers? The only active shooter I can think of that was stopped by anyone was by a CCW holding student at the Appalachian school of Law in 2002. Compare the results of that shooting to when university police tried to end the shooting at that other Virginia school not too long ago. ETA: forgot about charles witman...but you see my pointPeace, love and hoppiness Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 226 #87 November 9, 2010 Quote>Could you link to where the data shows that carrying a weapon on campus >makes you drunk? I'll let you play the Turtle game with yourself. You made the correlationI'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnnyMarko 1 #88 November 9, 2010 My views are changed. Lets just give everyone a gun and call it a day. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skyrider 0 #89 November 9, 2010 Quote >Could you link to where the data shows that carrying a weapon on campus >makes you drunk? I'll let you play the Turtle game with yourself. personal insult????? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 226 #90 November 9, 2010 Quote Quote >Could you link to where the data shows that carrying a weapon on campus >makes you drunk? I'll let you play the Turtle game with yourself. personal insult????? It's just a little green one. No harm.I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skyrider 0 #91 November 9, 2010 QuoteMy views are changed. Lets just give everyone a gun and call it a day. That is one of the many things you don;t get, "everybody doesn;t want a gun" , but those that pass the test,and have proven themsleves, should have the "Right" to carry one! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnnyMarko 1 #92 November 9, 2010 Everyone wants a gun for protection and have it on them at all times. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skyrider 0 #93 November 9, 2010 QuoteEveryone wants a gun for protection and have it on them at all times. Theres that Knee jerk thing again....Many people wont even touch a gun, and that is thier right! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 226 #94 November 9, 2010 Quote Quote My views are changed. Lets just give everyone a gun and call it a day. That is one of the many things you don;t get, "everybody doesn;t want a gun" , but those that pass the test,and have proven themsleves, should have the "Right" to carry one! Gypsy! Easy boy - Some people just don't want others to be able to live their life how they want and want to restrict everything.People simply should not be free to make their own adult choices about safety or lifestyle. After all - whatever everyone does, has a direct influence on everybody around them, wether they know it happens or not.I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnnyMarko 1 #95 November 9, 2010 QuoteMany people wont even touch a gun, and that is thier right! You think their minds will change if the shady looking guy across the street can carry his gun wherever he wants to? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 226 #96 November 9, 2010 Quote Quote Many people wont even touch a gun, and that is thier right! You think their minds will change if the shady looking guy across the street can carry his gun wherever he wants to? . . . and now you stereotype on looks alone?I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnnyMarko 1 #97 November 9, 2010 Quote Quote Quote Many people wont even touch a gun, and that is thier right! You think their minds will change if the shady looking guy across the street can carry his gun wherever he wants to? . . . and now you stereotype on looks alone? hows that? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 226 #98 November 9, 2010 Quote Quote Quote Quote Many people wont even touch a gun, and that is thier right! You think their minds will change if the shady looking guy across the street can carry his gun wherever he wants to? . . . and now you stereotype on looks alone? hows that? Quote if the shady looking guy across the street Careful or Amazon will will accuse you of having shady looking guys crawling out from under your bed.I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skyrider 0 #99 November 9, 2010 QuoteQuoteMany people wont even touch a gun, and that is thier right! You think their minds will change if the shady looking guy across the street can carry his gun wherever he wants to? Well, You've seen what I look like! My naighbors seem to be perfectly happy knowin I am well armed! matter of fact, they voted me Captain of the neighborhood watch... So far, I have taken down a burglar, and a rapist(his second offence too, he was tring to attack a 68 yearold woman) and run of many prowlers... Looks shady to me, and He's Drinking..Ruuuun everyone is in danger... http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v400/onekick/kickin1.jpg Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnnyMarko 1 #100 November 9, 2010 Shady as in looking suspicious...Im a lot less worried about the guy with the overalls and camo tee with a john deere hat with his gun than the guy with baggy pants and wearing solid colors...hows that for stereotyping? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
