Airport Body Scanners: Latest Episode of Security Theater

[Guest]

Here's a story about the major hassle of "Opting Out" of a body scanner.

In my opinion, this is just the latest chapter in the unending Security Theater drama.

Why?

Consider the case of an Improvised Explosive Device that was used in Saudi Arabia to attack an Assistant Interior Minister for anti-terrorism policy: The bomber delivered the package in his ass. Yes, you read that right:

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On 27 August 2009, at about 23:30 hours (local time), in Jeddah (Saudi Arabia) a suicide bomber tried to assassinate the Assistant Interior Minister of Saudi Arabia, Prince Muhammad bin Nayef.

Muhammad, who is also the son of the country's Interior Minister, was lightly injured in the attack.
According to several media worldwide, the suicide bomber had hidden the improvised explosive device (IED) in his rectum and activated it once close to the Prince.
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Link to PDF of attack analysis

What's going to happen when Hadjii succeeds with this kind of attack against an airliner? What will the TSA goons make passengers do next?

Why not what the Israelis do? Screen passengers intelligently?

mh
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"The mouse does not know life until it is in the mouth of the cat."

[nigel99 569]

I might have just been lucky but I have usually had decent treatment from security people.

In Fort Worth the boys had asked us to by a mini-replica M16 fire lighter and I asked the security people if there was any special requirement as it was both a lighter and certainly in the UK could be treated as "anything that looks like a weapon". Security laughed said not to worry and pushed us through the fast track.

While I understand the requirement for security it can make life more difficult. Today I fly out to the US and I have a choice - check bags and take a screwdriver or carry on and borrow one from the client or buy one? It is a pain in the ass.

Anyway the problem is that while people are out to kill us the more thorough the searches the more methods they will try and it will remain a vicious circle. I wouldn't be surprised to see us having to change into airline/state issued jumpsuits and removing all our clothing at some point in the future.

Experienced jumper - someone who has made mistakes more often than I have and lived.

[Guest]

Interesting notion, but if Hadjii's got the bomb up his ass, making him remove his clothing won't make a difference.

There is a history of this with a female Palestinian bomber in the 80s. Guess where she hid that?

mh
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"The mouse does not know life until it is in the mouth of the cat."

[shropshire 0]

In her Handbag?

... if it's anything like my wife's then no one would ever be able to find anything.

(.)Y(.)
Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome

[DanG 1]

As an obviously educated and world traveled man, whuy do you insist on using the term Hadjii in such a way? Do you believe that all suicide bombers have made the pilgrimidge to Mecca?

- Dan G

[Guest]

It's a generic term for the enemy, used by our troops.

It's equivalent to "Ivan", "Fritz" "Jerry", "Charlie", et cetera.

Must I dumb this down any further?

I don't care whether they (the islamo-fascist whackos) have been to Mecca or not - they can go to hell for all I care, and take their spinach-chinned weirdo leaders with them.

I suppose "Moe" would fit better, but of course all the bed-wetting liberals would get their panties in a wad over that too.

mh
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"The mouse does not know life until it is in the mouth of the cat."

[Andy9o8 2]

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As an obviously educated and world traveled man, whuy do you insist on using the term Hadjii in such a way? Do you believe that all suicide bombers have made the pilgrimidge to Mecca?

Well, there are certain stereotypes - profiles, if you will? - about the typical intelligence and education level of bigots; and that's frequently discussed here. Perhaps - as a scholarly exercise, of course - Mark wishes to dispel those notions. Over and over again.

Now if you'll kindly excuse me, I'm cooking dinner tonight, and I have to get back to skinning that possum.

[Andy9o8 2]

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I suppose "Moe" would fit better, but of course all the bed-wetting liberals would get their panties in a wad over that too.

I suppose you sneer at Larry and Curly, too. You have no shame.

[winsor 236]

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It's a generic term for the enemy, used by our troops.

It's equivalent to "Ivan", "Fritz" "Jerry", "Charlie", et cetera.

Must I dumb this down any further?

I don't care whether they (the islamo-fascist whackos) have been to Mecca or not - they can go to hell for all I care, and take their spinach-chinned weirdo leaders with them.

I suppose "Moe" would fit better, but of course all the bed-wetting liberals would get their panties in a wad over that too.

mh
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The Vaudeville slapstick schtick aside, Moe Howard (Moshe Hurwitz) was one of the good guys.

[skyrider 0]

I thought our major air carriers were already utilizing Xray that can detect plastics in the body?

[skyrider 0]

What about bombs shaped like knee joints, that appear to be a normal replacement?

Or Pacemakers...

[Andy9o8 2]

nyuk nyuk

[Skyrad 0]

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In my opinion, this is just the latest chapter in the unending Security Theater drama.

Why?

Consider the case of an Improvised Explosive Device that was used in Saudi Arabia to attack an Assistant Interior Minister for anti-terrorism policy: The bomber delivered the package in his ass. Yes, you read that right:

**************
On 27 August 2009, at about 23:30 hours (local time), in Jeddah (Saudi Arabia) a suicide bomber tried to assassinate the Assistant Interior Minister of Saudi Arabia, Prince Muhammad bin Nayef.

Muhammad, who is also the son of the country's Interior Minister, was lightly injured in the attack.
According to several media worldwide, the suicide bomber had hidden the improvised explosive device (IED) in his rectum and activated it once close to the Prince.
************

Link to PDF of attack analysis

What's going to happen when Hadjii succeeds with this kind of attack against an airliner? What will the TSA goons make passengers do next?

Why not what the Israelis do? Screen passengers intelligently?

mh
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"Does my bomb look big in this"

Actually for once we actually agree on something. The checks are there to make people 'feel' safe rather than making them safer. However I would prefer a body scanner rather than the whole half hearted physical search. As for bombs up bums there is only so far you can go when it comes to mass screening. Even if you checked everyones rectums then whats to stop them from having the device surgically impanted into the abdominal cavity? Ethnic profiling wouldn't work either as terrorists come in all shapes and shades.

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[Skyrad 0]

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In her Handbag?

... if it's anything like my wife's then no one would ever be able to find anything.

LMAO

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[Skyrad 0]

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Must I dumb this down any further?

I doubt thats possible.

When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy.
Lucius Annaeus Seneca

[Skyrad 0]

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I suppose "Moe" would fit better, but of course all the bed-wetting liberals would get their panties in a wad over that too.

I suppose you sneer at Larry and Curly, too. You have no shame.

LOL

When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy.
Lucius Annaeus Seneca

[DanG 1]

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Must I dumb this down any further?

I doubt you could. Maybe raghead, or camel jockey would help. I also don't understand how you can reconcile working with the enemy. If you feel so strongly, why not join our team and come on over to the winning side?

- Dan G

[Amazon 7]

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It's a generic term for the enemy, used by our troops.

It's equivalent to "Ivan", "Fritz" "Jerry", "Charlie", et cetera.

Must I dumb this down any further?

I don't care whether they (the islamo-fascist whackos) have been to Mecca or not - they can go to hell for all I care, and take their spinach-chinned weirdo leaders with them.

I suppose "Moe" would fit better, but of course all the bed-wetting liberals would get their panties in a wad over that too.

mh
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That has always worked out so well Mark, to dehumanize the "enemy". Funny how after the wars end the Ivan's, Fritz's, Jerries, Charlies et al turn out being some of our best freinds and business partners and those who used the terms end up having to do endless soul searching.

I do find it interesting you at least stayed away from some of the other more usual and colorful derogatory terms for the other ethnic groups

[Amazon 7]

Jamile... you have to know that in this country with the astronmically high levels of insane prudity... many many people are just too embarrassed and morally outraged that someone might be getting off at looking at their junk in the scanners.

[BillyVance 34]

Maybe they should use the VW Polo as a bomb containment device...



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[Skyrad 0]

I noticed the conservative nature of the adverts when I've been in the US in the past but that takes it to a whole new level Jeanne

When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy.
Lucius Annaeus Seneca

[Amazon 7]

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I noticed the conservative nature of the adverts when I've been in the US in the past but that takes it to a whole new level Jeanne

DUUUDE look at the nut bag levels of conservatism that arose to the showing of a Janet Jackson BREAST during the Super Bowl in 2004. You would have thought the fire and brimstone was going to start fallin on Houston any second for that violation of FCC rules and regulations.

[Skyrad 0]

LOL... I'd forgotten about that. The rest of the western and Latin and Anglasied southern hemisphere nations was like 'So what' yet the fuss that was made in the US you'd think ET had landed in the middle of the stadium at half time.

When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy.
Lucius Annaeus Seneca

[Amazon 7]

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Jamile... you have to know that in this country with the astronmically high levels of insane prudity... many many people are just too embarrassed and morally outraged that someone might be getting off at looking at their junk in the scanners.

So I take it you're OK with being strip searched when they make these mandatory for primary screening next year?

Sure.. I think everyone should be flying nekkid anyway... so no one can be hiding explosives in their tightie whities.

You just never know when you might have christo-fascists wanting to take out the islamo-fascists that might be flying on the same plane.

[Skyrad 0]

LOL..

When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy.
Lucius Annaeus Seneca