dgskydive 0 #26 November 5, 2010 http://cnn.com/video/?/video/bestoftv/2010/11/04/ac.obamas.india.trip.cost2.mov.cnn lies, all lies.Dom Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CanuckInUSA 0 #27 November 5, 2010 You know maybe $200 million/day is a lie, but nobody is giving the Americans the exact price tag of this visit. As long as the Obama administration continues to hide the actual cost of this trip, the rumors will persist. You can't have it both ways. You can't think of Obama as the Messiah giving him a blank check to run around spending as he pleases without people sitting up and questioning how much money he is spending. Try not to worry about the things you have no control over Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
idrankwhat 0 #28 November 5, 2010 Quote You can't have it both ways. You can't think of Obama as the Messiah giving him a blank check to run around spending as he pleases without people sitting up and questioning how much money he is spending. My issue with the scrutiny of these types of expenses is that it rings extremely hollow. The same people who want to run through this itinerary with a fine toothed comb never questioned the $2 billion per week that we were throwing at Iraq or any of the other expenditures of the last decade. For example, when film and documentation was presented to a Congressional committee which showed abuse of a cost-plus contract through the bulldozing of new computers and the blowing up of a tanker truck because it had a flat tire, the response from a Rep. of Georgia was "what do you have against profit?" Suddenly, as of January 2009, the right is concerned with wasteful spending and wants to attack every nickel spent on a Democratic politician's activities. I'm all for cutting waste too but let's not leave it to partisan pettiness. Like Anderson Cooper said, there's plenty of real crap to be pissed off about. No need to make shit up. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wmw999 2,452 #29 November 5, 2010 Because the exact cost is open to debate. Do you count the cost of soldiers detailed to protect the President? They were going to be paid anyway. Probably depends on whether you agree or disagree with him. Etc. Wendy P.There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skyrider 0 #30 November 5, 2010 Quote Because the exact cost is open to debate. Do you count the cost of soldiers detailed to protect the President? They were going to be paid anyway. Probably depends on whether you agree or disagree with him. Etc. Wendy P. "they were going to be working anyway" Gotcha! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Prior23 0 #31 November 5, 2010 Anderson Cooper just pretty much pooped on everyone's face who buys into this silly myth... http://www.cnn.com/video/?/video/bestoftv/2010/11/04/ac.obamas.india.trip.cost2.mov.cnnB.A.S.E. #1734 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airdvr 210 #32 November 5, 2010 Quote Anderson Cooper just pretty much pooped on everyone's face who buys into this silly myth... http://www.cnn.com/video/?/video/bestoftv/2010/11/04/ac.obamas.india.trip.cost2.mov.cnn I could see old AC being into a Cleveland Steamer Please don't dent the planet. Destinations by Roxanne Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skyrider 0 #33 November 5, 2010 QuoteAnderson Cooper just pretty much pooped on everyone's face who buys into this silly myth... http://www.cnn.com/video/?/video/bestoftv/2010/11/04/ac.obamas.india.trip.cost2.mov.cnn How??? they still refuse to say how much.. He is but another talking head, No different that Rush! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Prior23 0 #34 November 5, 2010 QuoteQuoteAnderson Cooper just pretty much pooped on everyone's face who buys into this silly myth... http://www.cnn.com/video/?/video/bestoftv/2010/11/04/ac.obamas.india.trip.cost2.mov.cnn How??? they still refuse to say how much.. He is but another talking head, No different that Rush! Anderson Cooper is not speculating on shit in his video how is he a "talking head". He is reporting what the White House and Pentagon have said about this myth that it is untrue. He is not defending Barack Obama saying he can due no wrong but merely reporting the truth that this number is a 100% fallacy.B.A.S.E. #1734 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skyrider 0 #35 November 5, 2010 Quote Quote Quote Anderson Cooper just pretty much pooped on everyone's face who buys into this silly myth... http://www.cnn.com/video/?/video/bestoftv/2010/11/04/ac.obamas.india.trip.cost2.mov.cnn How??? they still refuse to say how much.. He is but another talking head, No different that Rush! Anderson Cooper is not speculating on shit in his video how is he a "talking head". He is reporting what the White House and Pentagon have said about this myth that it is untrue. He is not defending Barack Obama saying he can due no wrong but merely reporting the truth that this number is a 100% fallacy. He is "reporting" as you say, (which BTW, so was Rush) what he was told, and ALL they told him isMyself, I think Rush is a windbag...so I am not buying into his word either, yet, you seem ready to buy into this talking head, "just because he said it!" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wmw999 2,452 #36 November 5, 2010 Ya know, I think I'd rather have the president on a trip somewhere, trying to drum up some business, than investing 2 billion into a week of war. Even if the trip cost 2 billion, which it doesn't. Much more of a return. Doesn't feel as badass, but badassness is overrated. Wendy P. There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skyrider 0 #37 November 5, 2010 Quote Ya know, I think I'd rather have the president on a trip somewhere, trying to drum up some business, than investing 2 billion into a week of war. Even if the trip cost 2 billion, which it doesn't. Much more of a return. Doesn't feel as badass, but badassness is overrated. Wendy P. LOL, you have fell hook line a sinker into the "lib arguement" trap... June, I expected more from you! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wmw999 2,452 #38 November 5, 2010 It's a statement. Please, dazzle me with the trapness of it. I'm looking forward to it. Fonzie Wendy P. There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skyrider 0 #39 November 5, 2010 Quote It's a statement. Please, dazzle me with the trapness of it. I'm looking forward to it. Fonzie Wendy P. Justifying one waste of money, by pointing out another, it is right there is the "how to argue as a Lib" handbook! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wmw999 2,452 #40 November 5, 2010 Well, we disagree on whether the president traveling overseas to drum up business is a waste of money. I see it as part of his job. You might not. Could it be done better? I'm sure it could. Nothing is ever perfect. Wendy P.There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LyraM45 0 #41 November 5, 2010 QuoteQuote You can't have it both ways. You can't think of Obama as the Messiah giving him a blank check to run around spending as he pleases without people sitting up and questioning how much money he is spending. My issue with the scrutiny of these types of expenses is that it rings extremely hollow. The same people who want to run through this itinerary with a fine toothed comb never questioned the $2 billion per week that we were throwing at Iraq or any of the other expenditures of the last decade. For example, when film and documentation was presented to a Congressional committee which showed abuse of a cost-plus contract through the bulldozing of new computers and the blowing up of a tanker truck because it had a flat tire, the response from a Rep. of Georgia was "what do you have against profit?" Suddenly, as of January 2009, the right is concerned with wasteful spending and wants to attack every nickel spent on a Democratic politician's activities. I'm all for cutting waste too but let's not leave it to partisan pettiness. Like Anderson Cooper said, there's plenty of real crap to be pissed off about. No need to make shit up. BINGO!!!Apologies for the spelling (and grammar).... I got a B.S, not a B.A. :) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 2 #42 November 5, 2010 QuoteBINGO!!! That won't raise much money. Maybe a bake sale. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
marks2065 0 #43 November 5, 2010 QuoteQuoteAnderson Cooper just pretty much pooped on everyone's face who buys into this silly myth... http://www.cnn.com/video/?/video/bestoftv/2010/11/04/ac.obamas.india.trip.cost2.mov.cnn How??? they still refuse to say how much.. He is but another talking head, No different that Rush! They did send an aicraft carrier group to the persian golf (arabian sea)http://freedomist.com/2010/10/22/u-s-sends-second-aircraft-carrier-to-persian-gulf-world-news/ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #44 November 5, 2010 QuoteQuoteQuoteAnderson Cooper just pretty much pooped on everyone's face who buys into this silly myth... http://www.cnn.com/video/?/video/bestoftv/2010/11/04/ac.obamas.india.trip.cost2.mov.cnn How??? they still refuse to say how much.. He is but another talking head, No different that Rush! They did send an aicraft carrier group to the persian golf (arabian sea)http://freedomist.com/2010/10/22/u-s-sends-second-aircraft-carrier-to-persian-gulf-world-news/ Yo DUDEEEEEE Here is a clue PSSST we have had one or two Carrier Battle Groups in the area of the Persian Gulf for oh.. about 30 or so years now.... Try again. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
marks2065 0 #45 November 5, 2010 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteAnderson Cooper just pretty much pooped on everyone's face who buys into this silly myth... http://www.cnn.com/video/?/video/bestoftv/2010/11/04/ac.obamas.india.trip.cost2.mov.cnn How??? they still refuse to say how much.. He is but another talking head, No different that Rush! They did send an aicraft carrier group to the persian golf (arabian sea)http://freedomist.com/2010/10/22/u-s-sends-second-aircraft-carrier-to-persian-gulf-world-news/ Yo DUDEEEEEE Here is a clue PSSST we have had one or two Carrier Battle Groups in the area of the Persian Gulf for oh.. about 30 or so years now.... Try again. haven't had 2 in a while and just happens to happen just in time for obama's visit. with the war and troops at a minumum why 2 now? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #46 November 5, 2010 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteAnderson Cooper just pretty much pooped on everyone's face who buys into this silly myth... http://www.cnn.com/video/?/video/bestoftv/2010/11/04/ac.obamas.india.trip.cost2.mov.cnn How??? they still refuse to say how much.. He is but another talking head, No different that Rush! They did send an aicraft carrier group to the persian golf (arabian sea)http://freedomist.com/2010/10/22/u-s-sends-second-aircraft-carrier-to-persian-gulf-world-news/ Yo DUDEEEEEE Here is a clue PSSST we have had one or two Carrier Battle Groups in the area of the Persian Gulf for oh.. about 30 or so years now.... Try again. haven't had 2 in a while and just happens to happen just in time for obama's visit. with the war and troops at a minumum why 2 now? Its obvious... they want to piss you off OR.... how long has the one been on station??? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
champu 1 #47 November 6, 2010 QuoteHow??? they still refuse to say how much. Did you really care until someone made up an outrageous number? There are plenty of published budgets and budgets available via FOIA requests that include trivial crap not worth getting worked up about. Some budgets include things that really should get more public attention but this is more than likely not one of them. I'm going to have to agree with idrankwhat on this one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skipbelt 0 #48 November 6, 2010 combat training for soldiers, seamen , and marines is invaluable to future defense of our country and it's interests ! i hope i'm not challenged on this ! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #49 November 6, 2010 Quotecombat training for soldiers, seamen , and marines is invaluable to future defense of our country and it's interests ! i hope i'm not challenged on this ! I would think our troops are getting plenty of combat experience in the last 9 years, but hey we only spend as much as the next 18 largest military spending countries in the world combined. Hell if we get that up a couple hundred billion more and we can be matching the entire military budget of the rest of the world.. 1 United States United States 663,255,000,000 2 People's Republic of China China 98,800,000,000 3 United Kingdom United Kingdom 69,271,000,000 4 France France 67,316,000,000 5 Russia Russian Federation 61,000,000,000 6 Germany Germany 48,022,000,000 7 Japan Japan 46,859,000,000 8 Saudi Arabia Saudi Arabia 39,257,000,000 9 Italy Italy 37,427,000,000 10 India India 36,600,000,000 11 South Korea South Korea 27,130,000,000 12 Brazil Brazil 27,124,000,000 13 Canada Canada 20,564,000,000 14 Australia Australia 20,109,000,000 15 Spain Spain 19,409,000,000 16 Turkey Turkey 19,009,000,000 17 Israel Israel 14,309,000,000 18 Greece Greece 13,917,000,000 19 United Arab Emirates United Arab Emirates 13,052,000,000 20 Netherlands Netherlands 12,642,000,000 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jclalor 12 #50 November 6, 2010 I don't recall anyone asking how many trips Dubya made back to the ranch when he was in office. (77 plus 11 to maine) http://www.dailykos.com/story/2009/6/2/738037/-Bush-Made-77-Trips-to-Crawford-TX-at-$226,072-a-Pop Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
