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Quote***When have you seen a President attacked on the same level that Obama has been attacked? Funny how when he won two years ago and the Dems had the house and the senate That the Right did not say " The Dems have a mandate from the people and we should work with them" What did the right do? They attacked Obama on a scale this country has never seen.
Apparently, the vicious personal attacks made against GW Bush for 8 years were justified in your opinion, though? Give me a break.
There were vicious personal attacks against Dubya, most carried out by the ultra left press. Most self respecting elected Democrats refused to buy in to this, a good example would be Michael Moore. When did you ever see a member of Congress or the Senate pal around with Moore or use him as a source? Almost never, they were embarressed by him. I started a thread about how full of shit he was.
Attacks on Policy is a whole other issue, if you wanna go after Obama based on FACT, have at it, there are lots of good anti HC arguments to be made. When members of Congress and the Senate have to resort to the death panel MYTH, that is plain chicken shit.
Attacks by the press on Dubya are one thing, attacks like we now see by the Senate and House are another.
I have no idea what you are talking about. You started out indicating that the Tea Baggers were personally attacking Obama. Now yo are saying members of Congress are personally attacking him? Can you post a link to this attack?
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I think the shared "spirit" of the the tea baggers is the terror that they have a Kenyan born Muslim who is also a terrorist loving commie.
California dreamin'? Again, these terms are not discussed in my social community. Mostly, we think socialism is in the best interest of the government and not the people. We want to maintain American exceptionalism and not be dependent on the government.
Perhaps you need to get out more. I know of one dropzone where the White House is referred to as the Black House.. and we get daily missives from the fringe right from the same place in email. Going to that DZ is like stepping back into the 1960's south... the only thing I have yet to see there is a fucking cross lighting..but the rhetoric is certainly the same.
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I think the shared "spirit" of the the tea baggers is the terror that they have a Kenyan born Muslim who is also a terrorist loving commie.
California dreamin'? Again, these terms are not discussed in my social community. Mostly, we think socialism is in the best interest of the government and not the people. We want to maintain American exceptionalism and not be dependent on the government.
Perhaps you need to get out more. I know of one dropzone where the White House is referred to as the Black House.. and we get daily missives from the fringe right from the same place in email. Going to that DZ is like stepping back into the 1960's south... the only thing I have yet to see there is a fucking cross lighting..but the rhetoric is certainly the same.
One DZ does not a community make. I've never heard anything like what you're referring to, and certainly not at any DZ.
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I think the shared "spirit" of the the tea baggers is the terror that they have a Kenyan born Muslim who is also a terrorist loving commie.
California dreamin'? Again, these terms are not discussed in my social community. Mostly, we think socialism is in the best interest of the government and not the people. We want to maintain American exceptionalism and not be dependent on the government.
Perhaps you need to get out more. I know of one dropzone where the White House is referred to as the Black House.. and we get daily missives from the fringe right from the same place in email. Going to that DZ is like stepping back into the 1960's south... the only thing I have yet to see there is a fucking cross lighting..but the rhetoric is certainly the same.
One DZ does not a community make. I've never heard anything like what you're referring to, and certainly not at any DZ.
BUt.,,,,But,,.,,,,But...She said it is som It MUST be.....
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I think the shared "spirit" of the the tea baggers is the terror that they have a Kenyan born Muslim who is also a terrorist loving commie.
California dreamin'? Again, these terms are not discussed in my social community. Mostly, we think socialism is in the best interest of the government and not the people. We want to maintain American exceptionalism and not be dependent on the government.
Perhaps you need to get out more. I know of one dropzone where the White House is referred to as the Black House.. and we get daily missives from the fringe right from the same place in email. Going to that DZ is like stepping back into the 1960's south... the only thing I have yet to see there is a fucking cross lighting..but the rhetoric is certainly the same.
One DZ does not a community make. I've never heard anything like what you're referring to, and certainly not at any DZ.
BUt.,,,,But,,.,,,,But...She said it is som It MUST be.....
You would fit in there just great.. the DZO REALLLLY does not like any of those New Black Panther Party ...or anyone else that looks like them... and well those silly muslims you have uner your bed... yup.. lots of love for them too...
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You would fit in there just great.. the DZO REALLLLY does not like any of those New Black Panther Party ...or anyone else that looks like them... and well those silly muslims you have uner your bed... yup.. lots of love for them too...
any chance you will pm me the name of the dz i wont repost it on here
jclalor 12
QuoteQuoteI have no idea what you are talking about. You started out indicating that the Tea Baggers were personally attacking Obama. Now yo are saying members of Congress are personally attacking him? Can you post a link to this attack?
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/08/24/gop-rep-trent-franks-cons_n_267096.html
http://www.politicususa.com/en/mcconnell-obama-muslim
Richard Shelby
In February 2009, a local Alabama newspaper reported that at a town hall meeting Senator Richard Shelby was asked if there was any truth to the rumors that Obama was not a natural-born citizen. According to the paper, Shelby responded that "Well his father was Kenyan and they said he was born in Hawaii, but I haven’t seen any birth certificate".[81] A Shelby spokesperson denied the story, but the newspaper stood by the story.[82]
Roy Blunt
On July 28, 2009 Mike Stark approached Missouri Congressman Roy Blunt asking him about the conspiracy theory that Barack Obama is not a natural-born citizen. Blunt responded:
What I don’t know is why the President can’t produce a birth certificate. I don’t know anybody else that can’t produce one. And I think that’s a legitimate question. No health records, no birth certificate.[83]
Blunt's spokesperson later claimed that the quote was taken out of context.[84]
Jean Schmidt
After giving a speech at the Voice of America Freedom Rally in West Chester, Ohio on September 5, 2009, Republican congresswoman Jean Schmidt replied to a woman who commented that Obama was ineligible for the Presidency,"I agree with you. But the courts don't."[85] Schmidt's office subsequently responded that a video clip of this comment was "taken out of context", and reiterated that her stated position is that Obama is a citizen.[86] She had earlier voted to certify the Electoral College vote affirming his presidency, and had said she believes Obama is a U.S. citizen.[87] The statement was issued in response to a July 28, 2009 YouTube video in which Schmidt was seen running away from Mike Stark when he asked whether or not she had any questions about President Obama’s citizenship status.[88]
Sarah Palin
On December 3, 2009, Sarah Palin was interviewed on Rusty Humphries' radio talk show. During the interview, Humphries asked Palin if she would make Barack Obama's birth certificate a campaign issue in 2012, should she decide to run. Palin responded
I think the public rightfully is still making it an issue. I don't have a problem with that. I don't know if I would have to bother to make it an issue, because I think that members of the electorate still want answers.
Humphries then asked her a followup question if she thinks Obama's birth certificate is a fair question, to which Palin answered, "I think it's a fair question, just like I think past association and past voting records—all of that is fair game. The McCain–Palin campaign didn't do a good enough job in that area."[89]
After news organizations and blogs picked up the quotation and associated Palin's comments with the "birther" movement,[90] Palin issued a statement on her Facebook page in which she clarified that she meant to say that voters have the right to ask questions, and she herself has never asked Obama to produce a birth certificate. She then went on to compare questioning of Obama's birth certificate to questions that were raised during the 2008 presidential elections about her maternity to her son, Trig.[91] The linkage between the question whether Trig is her son to Barack Obama's birth certificate issues has been heavily criticized by Mark Milian of the Los Angeles Times.[92] In addition, Andrew Sullivan, an established skeptic of Palin's relationship with Trig, wrote in response to her comments: "Palin has never produced Trig's birth certificate or a single piece of objective medical evidence that proves he is indeed her biological son."[93]
[edit] David Vitter
At a townhall meeting in Metairie, Louisiana on July 11, 2010, David Vitter responded to a question about Barack Obama's birth certificate saying "I personally don't have standing to bring litigation in court, but I support conservative legal organizations and others who would bring that to court. I think that is the valid and most possibly effective grounds to do it." His campaign did not provide any additional comments on the matter.[94][95]
[edit] Commentary and criticism
A man carrying a sign with a birther slogan at a Tea Party protest in Austin, Texas on July 4, 2009[31][96]In an August 23, 2008, article about Berg's lawsuit, WND claimed it had investigated Obama's Hawaiian birth certificate using forgery experts and "found the document to be authentic",[73] contradicting claims made in other WND articles and in Corsi's book. However, on
So to summerize, 2 years ago Shelby questioned Obama's birth certificate at a time before Obama produced it and put the rumors away and then a year ago Palin questioned it on her facebook page. These are the unprecedented personal attacks this country has never seen before you are ranting about? Seriously? WOW!!!
RonD1120 62
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Perhaps you need to get out more. I know of one dropzone where the White House is referred to as the Black House.. and we get daily missives from the fringe right from the same place in email. Going to that DZ is like stepping back into the 1960's south... the only thing I have yet to see there is a fucking cross lighting..but the rhetoric is certainly the same.
I don't jump anymore, so I don't go to DZ's. Maybe all this controversy is just amongst skydivers. I mostly hang out with military veteran bikers, neighbors and family. Maybe the rest of America has a better grip on things.
Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them.
jclalor 12
QuoteQuoteSo to summerize, 2 years ago Shelby questioned Obama's birth certificate at a time before Obama produced it and put the rumors away and then a year ago Palin questioned it on her facebook page. These are the unprecedented personal attacks this country has never seen before you are ranting about? Seriously? WOW!!!
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/10/17/gop-rep-channels-mccarthy_n_135735.html
Sorry, i'm still not seeing the level of personal attacks the way you are. Remember the 8 years of Bush? Here's just one example.
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/07/17/politics/main4270430.shtml
Why is what Bachman is saying any more salacious than what Pelosi is saying here? And don't try and say she is attacking his policies. Even the writer of this article states it's a personal attack.
I'm still wondering what you think is a unprecedented personal attack on Obama? A personal attack? Yes. Unprecedented? Sorry, don't see it.
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/07/17/politics/main4270430.shtml
Why is what Bachman is saying any more salacious than what Pelosi is saying here? And don't try and say she is attacking his policies. Even the writer of this article states it's a personal attack.
I'm still wondering what you think is a unprecedented personal attack on Obama? A personal attack? Yes. Unprecedented? Sorry, don't see it.
jclalor 12
QuoteQuoteSo to summerize, 2 years ago Shelby questioned Obama's birth certificate at a time before Obama produced it and put the rumors away and then a year ago Palin questioned it on her facebook page. These are the unprecedented personal attacks this country has never seen before you are ranting about? Seriously? WOW!!!
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,586824,00.html
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I think the shared "spirit" of the the tea baggers is the terror that they have a Kenyan born Muslim who is also a terrorist loving commie.
California dreamin'? Again, these terms are not discussed in my social community. Mostly, we think socialism is in the best interest of the government and not the people. We want to maintain American exceptionalism and not be dependent on the government.
Perhaps you need to get out more. I know of one dropzone where the White House is referred to as the Black House.. and we get daily missives from the fringe right from the same place in email. Going to that DZ is like stepping back into the 1960's south... the only thing I have yet to see there is a fucking cross lighting..but the rhetoric is certainly the same.
One DZ does not a community make. I've never heard anything like what you're referring to, and certainly not at any DZ.
BUt.,,,,But,,.,,,,But...She said it is som It MUST be.....
You would fit in there just great.. the DZO REALLLLY does not like any of those New Black Panther Party ...or anyone else that looks like them... and well those silly muslims you have uner your bed... yup.. lots of love for them too...
More personal attacks?
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Well, there you go again. This thread is about "Tea baggers" as those on the left like to call them. You started out attacking the Tea baggers saying they were personally attacking Obama. Then you switched it to attacks on Obama by members of the House and Senate. Now you are posting comments from former politicians and commentators, which i don't consider personal attacks. The only elected person in the link you provided was Jim DeMint and his comment is only a less than one sentence blurb that starts out commenting on Obamas Socialist policies. I don't know what the rest of his comments were or in what context they were made but attacking someones political ideology hardly qualifies as a personal attack. Is this all you have? Do you think this rises to the level of attacks you have stated? Would you be banned from this site for making comments about someones Socialistic leanings? Do you think any of the moderators would consider that a personal attack? Sorry, I don't think so.
California dreamin'? Again, these terms are not discussed in my social community. Mostly, we think socialism is in the best interest of the government and not the people. We want to maintain American exceptionalism and not be dependent on the government.
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