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We are glad you finally cuaght up though - we've been waiting for a while now.

Gosh, you're waiting for little old me? I'm flattered.

I am a simple person, please tell me how spending more will reduce the deficit? If I have 10 dollars and I spend twenty I have a 10 deficit. if I now spend 40 my deficit doesn't go down does it? no it doesn't. the only way the deficit goes down is if spending goes down or income increases.

therefore since the health care bill increases the numbers of people getting health care, the only way to reduce the deficit is to tax us more. and now many in the taxing area are getting exemptions (like the ones that backed Obama and helped form the law). This leaves us with an increase in deficit or really fucking the few that don't get a waiver.

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We are glad you finally cuaght up though - we've been waiting for a while now.

Gosh, you're waiting for little old me? I'm flattered.

I am a simple person, please tell me how spending more will reduce the deficit? If I have 10 dollars and I spend twenty I have a 10 deficit. if I now spend 40 my deficit doesn't go down does it? no it doesn't. the only way the deficit goes down is if spending goes down or income increases.

therefore since the health care bill increases the numbers of people getting health care, the only way to reduce the deficit is to tax us more. and now many in the taxing area are getting exemptions (like the ones that backed Obama and helped form the law). This leaves us with an increase in deficit or really fucking the few that don't get a waiver.

Perhaps you should ask the people YOU have voted for.

National Debt in 1980 700 BILLION.

Reagan BUSH1 and Bush2 took that to 11+ TRILLION

Seems they did a pretty piss poor job of paying the bills in the Party of smaller goverment and supposed fiscal resonsibility.
You are one of those who get fooled over and over arn't you.

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If you believe the CBO, the healthcare bill will reduce federal spending, not increase it.

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I am a simple person, please tell me how spending more will reduce the deficit?

If you solve a small problem that will only get bigger and cost you more later.

If your car needs periodic oil changes, which is the better tactic if you don't have a lot of money:

1. don't change the oil becuase you don't have enough money for oil
2. change the oil because it will cost you an engine pretty soon

So if (as an example) healthcare has been going up 15% per year, and its overall cost was 1 billion dollars (these are numbers I pulled out of the air for an example), then in 5 years healthcare would cost 1.077 billion.

If you spend 5 million dollars to get healthcare to only go up 10% per year, then in 5 years healthcare would cost 1.051 billion.

So in this case, by spending 5 million, you'd likely save 26 million if healthcare keeps growing at the same rate.

Wendy P.

There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown)

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We are glad you finally cuaght up though - we've been waiting for a while now.

Gosh, you're waiting for little old me? I'm flattered.

I am a simple person, please tell me how spending more will reduce the deficit? If I have 10 dollars and I spend twenty I have a 10 deficit. if I now spend 40 my deficit doesn't go down does it? no it doesn't. the only way the deficit goes down is if spending goes down or income increases.

therefore since the health care bill increases the numbers of people getting health care, the only way to reduce the deficit is to tax us more. and now many in the taxing area are getting exemptions (like the ones that backed Obama and helped form the law). This leaves us with an increase in deficit or really fucking the few that don't get a waiver.

Perhaps you should ask the people YOU have voted for.

National Debt in 1980 700 BILLION.

Reagan BUSH1 and Bush2 took that to 11+ TRILLION

Seems they did a pretty piss poor job of paying the bills in the Party of smaller goverment and supposed fiscal resonsibility.
You are one of those who get fooled over and over arn't you.

you really need to move up to this era. we can't change the past but we can use it for making the present better. that being said, everyone agrees that bush over spent and you seem to be stuck on that fact. if that is so were is your anger now? or are you blind to what Obama has done? stop being a hypocrit and start blasting Obama for what he is doing plenty times worse than Bush.

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I am a simple person, please tell me how spending more will reduce the deficit?

If you solve a small problem that will only get bigger and cost you more later.

If your car needs periodic oil changes, which is the better tactic if you don't have a lot of money:

1. don't change the oil becuase you don't have enough money for oil
2. change the oil because it will cost you an engine pretty soon

So if (as an example) healthcare has been going up 15% per year, and its overall cost was 1 billion dollars (these are numbers I pulled out of the air for an example), then in 5 years healthcare would cost 1.077 billion.

If you spend 5 million dollars to get healthcare to only go up 10% per year, then in 5 years healthcare would cost 1.051 billion.

So in this case, by spending 5 million, you'd likely save 26 million if healthcare keeps growing at the same rate.

Wendy P.

I understand what you are saying, but Obama care doesn't reduce cost of giving health care, now or in the future. Therefore the cost over time does not decrease and that does not save us money. It is just spending to be spending. taxing to be taxing.

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So if (as an example) healthcare has been going up 15% per year, and its overall cost was 1 billion dollars (these are numbers I pulled out of the air for an example), then in 5 years healthcare would cost 1.077 billion.

If you spend 5 million dollars to get healthcare to only go up 10% per year, then in 5 years healthcare would cost 1.051 billion.

So in this case, by spending 5 million, you'd likely save 26 million if healthcare keeps growing at the same rate.

Wendy P.

That logic is fine, except that none of the bill that passed addresses improving our health. Only the First Lady is attempting to fight obesity, and I suspect she'll be as successful as Nancy was with drugs.

Also, at 15% per year, the cost after year 5 would be 1.75B, not 1.077. At 10%, it would be 1.46B, so just shy of 300B less. (not adjusted for inflation, so the real difference is a bit lower.)