Andy9o8 2 #26 December 3, 2010 QuoteI served as a lesbian OK, where the hell is that? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RonD1120 62 #27 December 3, 2010 QuoteDecember 1, 2010 The two biggest stories this week are WikiLeaks' continued publication of classified government documents, which did untold damage to America's national security interests, and the Democrats' fanatical determination to repeal "don't ask, don't tell" and allow gays to serve openly in the military. The mole who allegedly gave WikiLeaks the mountains of secret documents is Pfc. Bradley Manning, Army intelligence analyst and angry gay. We've heard 1 billion times about the Army translator who just wanted to serve his country, but was cashiered because of whom he loved. I'll see your Army translator and raise you one Bradley Manning. According to Bradley's online chats, he was in "an awkward place" both "emotionally and psychologically." So in a snit, he betrayed his country by orchestrating the greatest leak of classified intelligence in U.S. history. Isn't that in the Army Code of Conduct? You must follow orders at all times. Exceptions will be made for servicemen in an awkward place. Now, who wants a hug? Waitress! Three more apple-tinis!" According to The New York Times, Bradley sought "moral support" from his "self-described drag queen" boyfriend. Alas, he still felt out of sorts. So why not sell out his country? In an online chat with a computer hacker, Bradley said he lifted the hundreds of thousands of classified documents by pretending to be listening to a CD labeled "Lady Gaga." Then he acted as if he were singing along with her hit song "Telephone" while frantically downloading classified documents. I'm not a military man, but I think singing along to Lady Gaga would constitute "telling" under "don't ask, don't tell." Do you have to actually wear a dress to be captured by the Army's "don't ask, don't tell" dragnet? What constitutes being "openly" gay now? Bringing a spice rack to basic training? Attending morning drills decked out as a Cher impersonator? Following Anderson Cooper on Twitter? Also, U.S. military, have you seen a picture of Bradley Manning? The photo I've seen is only from the waist up, but you get the feeling that he's wearing butt-less chaps underneath. He looks like a guy in a soldier costume at the Greenwich Village Halloween parade. With any luck, Bradley's court-martial will be gayer than a Liza Minelli wedding. It could be the first court-martial in U.S. history to feature ice sculptures and a "Wizard of Oz"-themed gazebo. "Are you going to Bradley's court-martial? I hear Patti LaBelle is going to sing!" Maybe there's a reason gays have traditionally been kept out of the intelligence services, apart from the fact that closeted gay men are easy to blackmail. Gays have always been suspicious of that rationale and perhaps they're right. The most damaging spies in British history were the Cambridge Five, also called "the "Magnificent Five": Kim Philby, Guy Burgess, Anthony Blunt, Donald Maclean and John Cairncross. They were highly placed members of British intelligence, all secretly working for the KGB. The only one who wasn't gay was Philby. Burgess and Blunt were flamboyantly gay. Indeed, the Russians set Burgess up with a boyfriend as soon as he defected to the Soviet Union. The Magnificent Five's American compatriot Michael Straight was -- ironically -- bisexual, as was Whittaker Chambers, at least during the period that he was a spy. And of course, there's David Brock. So many Soviet spies were gay that, according to intelligence reporter Phillip Knightley, the Comintern was referred to as "the Homintern." (I would have called it the "Gay G.B.") Bradley's friends told the Times they suspected "his desperation for acceptance -- or delusions of grandeur" may have prompted his document dump. Let's check our "Gay Profile at a Glance" and ... let's see ... desperate for acceptance ... delusions of grandeur ... yep, they're both on the gay subset list! Obviously, the vast majority of gays are loyal Americans -- and witty and stylish to boot! But a small percentage of gays are going to be narcissistic hothouse flowers like Bradley Manning. Couldn't they just work for JetBlue? America would be a lot safer right now if gays in an "awkward place" psychologically could do no more damage than grabbing a couple of beers and sliding down the emergency chute. Look at the disaster one gay created under our punishing "don't ask, don't tell" policy. What else awaits America with the overturning of a policy that was probably put there for a reason (apart from being the only thing Bill Clinton ever did that I agreed with)? Liberals don't care. Their approach is to rip out society's foundations without asking if they serve any purpose. Why do we have immigration laws? What's with these borders? Why do we have the institution of marriage, anyway? What do we need standardized tests for? Hey, I like Keith Richards -- why not make heroin legal? Let's take a sledgehammer to all these load-bearing walls and just see what happens! For liberals, gays in the military is a win-win proposition. Either gays in the military works, or it wrecks the military, both of which outcomes they enthusiastically support. But since you brought up gays in the military, liberals, let's talk about Bradley Manning. He apparently released hundreds of thousands of classified government documents as a result of being a gay man in "an awkward place." Any discussion of "don't ask, don't tell" should begin with Bradley Manning. Live by the sad anecdote, die by the sad anecdote. http://www.anncoulter.com/ That is the first time I've read Ann Coulter. I didn't know how humorous she is. Thanks for posting. On the other side, she zeros in on the target. QuoteLiberals don't care. Their approach is to rip out society's foundations without asking if they serve any purpose. And.... For liberals, gays in the military is a win-win proposition. Either gays in the military works, or it wrecks the military, both of which outcomes they enthusiastically support. Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RonD1120 62 #28 December 3, 2010 Quote>Look at the disaster one gay created under our punishing >"don't ask, don't tell" policy. Agreed. Do we really want this to happen more often? >Maybe there's a reason gays have traditionally been kept out of >the intelligence services, apart from the fact that closeted gay men are >easy to blackmail. He's hit the nail on the head there. Let them come out of the closet, and we will stop enabling blackmailers. The way I see it, repeal DADT and then we have the tip of the spear or all clerical/medical positions filled.Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DanG 1 #29 December 3, 2010 It sounds like you think only straight men have the capability to be combat soldiers. Have you ever met any gay men? They are not all prancy nancy-boys. - Dan G Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
labrys 0 #30 December 3, 2010 QuoteFor liberals, gays in the military is a win-win proposition. Either gays in the military works, or it wrecks the military, both of which outcomes they enthusiastically support. The statement is ignorant. Gays have been, are, and always will serve in the military. The repeal of DADT has nothing at all to do with allowing gays in the military. What a lot of people are missing in these discussions is that DADT actually allowed gays to serve without having to lie to enlist. The repeal of DADT is about allowing gays to serve openly.Owned by Remi #? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RonD1120 62 #31 December 3, 2010 QuoteIt sounds like you think only straight men have the capability to be combat soldiers. Have you ever met any gay men? They are not all prancy nancy-boys. No, no, on the contrary, I know that some can be fierce fighters same as women.Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
labrys 0 #32 December 3, 2010 Quote OK, where the hell is that? It's a secret rate. It's so secret that all of my service records are classified and all I have to show for it is this little rainbow pin I wear on my lapel. Owned by Remi #? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RonD1120 62 #33 December 3, 2010 QuoteQuoteFor liberals, gays in the military is a win-win proposition. Either gays in the military works, or it wrecks the military, both of which outcomes they enthusiastically support. The statement is ignorant. Gays have been, are, and always will serve in the military. The repeal of DADT has nothing at all to do with allowing gays in the military. What a lot of people are missing in these discussions is that DADT actually allowed gays to serve without having to lie to enlist. The repeal of DADT is about allowing gays to serve openly. I agree with your last sentence. However, I think Coulter's quote is in alignment with your position. It is about the liberal agenda overall.Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KerLaw 0 #34 December 3, 2010 Quote Quote OK, where the hell is that? It's a secret rate. It's so secret that all of my service records are classified and all I have to show for it is this little rainbow pin I wear on my lapel. LOL!!! good on ya, girl! Dare I say, "wear it with PRIDE!!!"Half-Way to 'A' and lovin' them blue skies... and women with pretty blue eyes... & ... "EH?" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skyrad 0 #35 December 3, 2010 QuoteQuoteIt sounds like you think only straight men have the capability to be combat soldiers. Have you ever met any gay men? They are not all prancy nancy-boys. No, no, on the contrary, I know that some can be fierce fighters same as women. Bigotry knows no bounds. WWJD?When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skyrad 0 #36 December 3, 2010 QuoteQuoteQuoteFor liberals, gays in the military is a win-win proposition. Either gays in the military works, or it wrecks the military, both of which outcomes they enthusiastically support. The statement is ignorant. Gays have been, are, and always will serve in the military. The repeal of DADT has nothing at all to do with allowing gays in the military. What a lot of people are missing in these discussions is that DADT actually allowed gays to serve without having to lie to enlist. The repeal of DADT is about allowing gays to serve openly. I agree with your last sentence. However, I think Coulter's quote is in alignment with your position. It is about the liberal agenda overall. US bipartisan politics is so pathetic. Easy way for simple minds to not have to engage in any critical thinking.When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 2 #37 December 3, 2010 QuoteUS [bi]partisan politics is so pathetic. Easy way for simple minds to not have to engage in any critical thinking. Ding! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,564 #38 December 3, 2010 QuoteQuoteQuoteFor liberals, gays in the military is a win-win proposition. Either gays in the military works, or it wrecks the military, both of which outcomes they enthusiastically support. The statement is ignorant. Gays have been, are, and always will serve in the military. The repeal of DADT has nothing at all to do with allowing gays in the military. What a lot of people are missing in these discussions is that DADT actually allowed gays to serve without having to lie to enlist. The repeal of DADT is about allowing gays to serve openly. I agree with your last sentence. However, I think Coulter's quote is in alignment with your position. It is about the liberal agenda overall. What, equality? I think a lot of republicans would argue that's not an exclusively liberal ideal.Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skyrider 0 #39 December 3, 2010 Quote Quote As far as this jackoff Manning goes, he's just a twit. His sexuality has nothing to do with it. Exactly. Leave it to Coulter and her followers to turn this into an issue about sexuality. Robert Hannsen and Aldrich Ames are two individuals who caused far more damage than Manning. Manning made it about his sexuality...It was his excuse..."He" said it, Not Coulter! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RonD1120 62 #40 December 3, 2010 Quote WWJD? He would say that homosexuality is an abomination and those who practice it shall not enter the kingdom of heaven. Do you need Scripture reference? Or, did you mean Walking With Jack Daniels? edit to add last sentenceLook for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,079 #41 December 3, 2010 >He would say that homosexuality is an abomination and those >who practice it shall not enter the kingdom of heaven. Perhaps. But if that's the case, any soldier who serves during wartime is going to hell anyway. Jesus was far more clear on the evils of killing and violence than he was on homosexuality. (Matthew 5:38-40, Matthew 19:19, Matthew 5:9) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skyrad 0 #42 December 3, 2010 Quote Or, did you mean Walking With Jack Daniels? That was funnyWhen an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
labrys 0 #43 December 3, 2010 QuoteHe would say that homosexuality is an abomination and those who practice it shall not enter the kingdom of heaven. What would he say about eating shrimp and lobster? I'm serious.Owned by Remi #? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RonD1120 62 #44 December 3, 2010 Quote>He would say that homosexuality is an abomination and those >who practice it shall not enter the kingdom of heaven. Perhaps. But if that's the case, any soldier who serves during wartime is going to hell anyway. Jesus was far more clear on the evils of killing and violence than he was on homosexuality. (Matthew 5:38-40, Matthew 19:19, Matthew 5:9) You guys always overlook Romans and the direction to follow the orders of your government.Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RonD1120 62 #45 December 3, 2010 QuoteQuoteHe would say that homosexuality is an abomination and those who practice it shall not enter the kingdom of heaven. What would he say about eating shrimp and lobster? I'm serious. Probably suggest cocktail sauce and melted butter with lemon and garlic since that was an Old Testament law/rule. You must remember it is all a new deal after His sacrificial and atoning death on the cross and subsequent resurrection.Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,079 #46 December 3, 2010 >You guys always overlook Romans and the direction to follow the orders of >your government. These days no one is ordered to join the military. They voluntarily choose to become soldiers. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
labrys 0 #47 December 3, 2010 QuoteYou must remember it is all a new deal after His sacrificial and atoning death on the cross and subsequent resurrection. In that case, I'd like some scriptural references from the new testament that mention JC's views on homosexuality, please.Owned by Remi #? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RonD1120 62 #48 December 3, 2010 Quote>You guys always overlook Romans and the direction to follow the orders of >your government. These days no one is ordered to join the military. They voluntarily choose to become soldiers. C'mon your point is moot. It is a job choice. Same as choosing to be a law enforcement officer. Cops are ordered to kill also.Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 2 #49 December 3, 2010 QuoteQuote>You guys always overlook Romans and the direction to follow the orders of >your government. These days no one is ordered to join the military. They voluntarily choose to become soldiers. C'mon your point is moot. It is a job choice. Same as choosing to be a law enforcement officer. Cops are ordered to kill also. Not in the same sense that soldiers are. Soldiers are ordered to kill, and if they don't, they can be militarily prosecuted, imprisoned, even executed. Cops are authorized to kill, and if they refuse an order to do so, the worst that can happen to them, usually, is they can be fired. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
matthewcline 0 #50 December 3, 2010 Splitting hairs here, but I have never heard of a cop being "Ordered" to kill. MattAn Instructors first concern is student safety. So, start being safe, first!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites