Darius11 12 #1 December 16, 2010 What is rich? This is inspired by the thread about taxing the rich. What is rich? I mean who do u consider rich? Yearly House hold income-Per-person. I did it this way because i think as a single guy a 100K would go very far, but if i had 3 kids i would consider my self broke. So Yearly House hold income-Per-person is the yearly houshold income divided by the number of people in that house hold.I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #2 December 16, 2010 QuoteWhat is rich? This is inspired by the thread about taxing the rich. What is rich? I mean who do u consider rich? Yearly House hold income-Per-person. I did it this way because i think as a single guy a 100K would go very far, but if i had 3 kids i would consider my self broke. So Yearly House hold income-Per-person is the yearly houshold income divided by the number of people in that house hold. Only president Ombam and the Dems can decide that I mean As much as the number has moved why would anybody else even try?"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Darius11 12 #3 December 16, 2010 I don’t know. When I was making this poll the whole time I am thinking its such an undefinable thing. 200K is rich to someone making 20K but what if I have dreamed of having my own personal submarine? Maybe that’s when I think I have made it, and I am rich.I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #4 December 16, 2010 QuoteI don’t know. When I was making this poll the whole time I am thinking its such an undefinable thing. 200K is rich to someone making 20K but what if I have dreamed of having my own personal submarine? Maybe that’s when I think I have made it, and I am rich. Good points and it really is relative IMO I think my post to you in the other thread is linked to what you are trying to define here"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VTmotoMike08 0 #5 December 16, 2010 Most people seem to think anyone making noticably more than them is rich. I would probably rate it as a factor times the average income for your city. Here in Norfolk, the average income is only around $42,000. (city-data.com). You could live a VERY nice life sytle here for 5X that, or about $210,000. I would consider you rich if you made 10X the average income. So yes, if you're in sub-saharan (sp?) Africa, you might be rich if you have $10,000/ year. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Darius11 12 #6 December 16, 2010 This one QuoteMost here do not think that no taxes should be paid. I am willing to pay for the necessary services. Unfortunately that list of services keeps growing along with the people needed to administer said programs. I guess the debate is how much is enough and what programs really should be under the purview of the Fed gov. I agree. I also think once you give people something they start to think its theirs and is owed to them . If you mention cutting any benefits that the people are already getting the reaction is always bad. I also think the Rep. and the Dem. Suck. I cant think of one person with one exception Ron Paul that would actually reduce spending, and have the balls to cut programs. Even if we had a guy like that which we did. I fear he/she would never get elected. There is so much wrong. There should have been no bailouts. You could say hey you play you win you get rich, you lose you get poor. You suffer the consequences or reap the benefits. I think that’s why were all spinning or at least I am. There is so much hypocrisy its hard to really believe anyone.I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #7 December 16, 2010 QuoteQuoteWhat is rich? This is inspired by the thread about taxing the rich. What is rich? I mean who do u consider rich? Yearly House hold income-Per-person. I did it this way because i think as a single guy a 100K would go very far, but if i had 3 kids i would consider my self broke. So Yearly House hold income-Per-person is the yearly houshold income divided by the number of people in that house hold. Only president Ombam and the Dems can decide that I mean As much as the number has moved why would anybody else even try? There is evidence of that gravity anomaly in Iowa again. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
marks2065 0 #8 December 16, 2010 QuoteI don’t know. When I was making this poll the whole time I am thinking its such an undefinable thing. 200K is rich to someone making 20K but what if I have dreamed of having my own personal submarine? Maybe that’s when I think I have made it, and I am rich. the problem is that just because your tax return says you made X doesn't mean you made X. Because of the way corporate taxes are filed and bills are paid your cash flow could be under half of what your income tax form said. 3 years ago my tax form said I made 125k but since the equipment I bought was deducted the previous year the 50k paid on equipment was not reduced off my income, therefor I paid taxes on 125k but that was taken out of 75k leaving me with alot less than someone that just made 75k. It isn't what you make it is what you keep and the fed goverment doesn't care what you keep. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #9 December 16, 2010 QuoteQuoteI don’t know. When I was making this poll the whole time I am thinking its such an undefinable thing. 200K is rich to someone making 20K but what if I have dreamed of having my own personal submarine? Maybe that’s when I think I have made it, and I am rich. the problem is that just because your tax return says you made X doesn't mean you made X. Because of the way corporate taxes are filed and bills are paid your cash flow could be under half of what your income tax form said. 3 years ago my tax form said I made 125k but since the equipment I bought was deducted the previous year the 50k paid on equipment was not reduced off my income, therefor I paid taxes on 125k but that was taken out of 75k leaving me with alot less than someone that just made 75k. It isn't what you make it is what you keep and the fed goverment doesn't care what you keep. It sounds like you are desparately in need of an accountant. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
marks2065 0 #10 December 16, 2010 QuoteQuoteQuoteI don’t know. When I was making this poll the whole time I am thinking its such an undefinable thing. 200K is rich to someone making 20K but what if I have dreamed of having my own personal submarine? Maybe that’s when I think I have made it, and I am rich. the problem is that just because your tax return says you made X doesn't mean you made X. Because of the way corporate taxes are filed and bills are paid your cash flow could be under half of what your income tax form said. 3 years ago my tax form said I made 125k but since the equipment I bought was deducted the previous year the 50k paid on equipment was not reduced off my income, therefor I paid taxes on 125k but that was taken out of 75k leaving me with alot less than someone that just made 75k. It isn't what you make it is what you keep and the fed goverment doesn't care what you keep. It sounds like you are desparately in need of an accountant. got a good one but you can only postpone paying taxes, you can not eliminate them. they kept me even for a few years but it always gets you in the end. since I don't cheat on my taxes I do have to pay. I could have pocketed much of the cash, but I always seem to pay in the end so I figure I might as well be honest and not get caught later. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #11 December 16, 2010 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteI don’t know. When I was making this poll the whole time I am thinking its such an undefinable thing. 200K is rich to someone making 20K but what if I have dreamed of having my own personal submarine? Maybe that’s when I think I have made it, and I am rich. the problem is that just because your tax return says you made X doesn't mean you made X. Because of the way corporate taxes are filed and bills are paid your cash flow could be under half of what your income tax form said. 3 years ago my tax form said I made 125k but since the equipment I bought was deducted the previous year the 50k paid on equipment was not reduced off my income, therefor I paid taxes on 125k but that was taken out of 75k leaving me with alot less than someone that just made 75k. It isn't what you make it is what you keep and the fed goverment doesn't care what you keep. It sounds like you are desparately in need of an accountant. got a good one but you can only postpone paying taxes, you can not eliminate them. they kept me even for a few years but it always gets you in the end. since I don't cheat on my taxes I do have to pay. I could have pocketed much of the cash, but I always seem to pay in the end so I figure I might as well be honest and not get caught later. I would say not so great.. FIRE THEM and find one that knows how expenses and write offs for businesses work Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #12 December 16, 2010 Quote Quote Quote What is rich? This is inspired by the thread about taxing the rich. What is rich? I mean who do u consider rich? Yearly House hold income-Per-person. I did it this way because i think as a single guy a 100K would go very far, but if i had 3 kids i would consider my self broke. So Yearly House hold income-Per-person is the yearly houshold income divided by the number of people in that house hold. Only president Ombam and the Dems can decide that I mean As much as the number has moved why would anybody else even try? There is evidence of that gravity anomaly in Iowa again. Kind of like I never see more than one Mexican? "America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airtwardo 7 #13 December 16, 2010 Do you mean rich or wealthy? ~ If you choke a Smurf, what color does it turn? ~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #14 December 16, 2010 QuoteThis one QuoteMost here do not think that no taxes should be paid. I am willing to pay for the necessary services. Unfortunately that list of services keeps growing along with the people needed to administer said programs. I guess the debate is how much is enough and what programs really should be under the purview of the Fed gov. I agree. I also think once you give people something they start to think its theirs and is owed to them . If you mention cutting any benefits that the people are already getting the reaction is always bad. I also think the Rep. and the Dem. Suck. I cant think of one person with one exception Ron Paul that would actually reduce spending, and have the balls to cut programs. Even if we had a guy like that which we did. I fear he/she would never get elected. There is so much wrong. There should have been no bailouts. You could say hey you play you win you get rich, you lose you get poor. You suffer the consequences or reap the benefits. I think that’s why were all spinning or at least I am. There is so much hypocrisy its hard to really believe anyone. Have to say we agree"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CanuckInUSA 0 #15 December 16, 2010 What is rich? Quote You see that building? I bought that building ten years ago. My first real estate deal. Sold it two years later, made an $800,000 profit. It was better than sex. At the time I thought that was all the money in the world. Now it’s a day’s pay. Wake up, will ya pal? If you're not inside, you're outside, OK? And I'm not talking a $400,000 a year working Wall Street stiff flying first class and being comfortable, I'm talking about liquid. Rich enough to have your own jet. Rich enough not to waste time. Fifty, a hundred million dollars buddy. A player, or nothing. We make the rules, pal. The news, war, peace, famine, upheaval, the price of a paper clip. We pick that rabbit out of a hat while everybody sits around wondering how the hell we did it. Now you're not naive enough to think that we're living in a democracy, are you, Buddy? If you need a friend, get a dog. quotes from Gordon Gekko BTW ... I am NOT rich. Try not to worry about the things you have no control over Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #16 December 16, 2010 Quote What is rich? Quote You see that building? I bought that building ten years ago. My first real estate deal. Sold it two years later, made an $800,000 profit. It was better than sex. At the time I thought that was all the money in the world. Now it’s a day’s pay. Wake up, will ya pal? If you're not inside, you're outside, OK? And I'm not talking a $400,000 a year working Wall Street stiff flying first class and being comfortable, I'm talking about liquid. Rich enough to have your own jet. Rich enough not to waste time. Fifty, a hundred million dollars buddy. A player, or nothing. We make the rules, pal. The news, war, peace, famine, upheaval, the price of a paper clip. We pick that rabbit out of a hat while everybody sits around wondering how the hell we did it. Now you're not naive enough to think that we're living in a democracy, are you, Buddy? If you need a friend, get a dog. quotes from Gordon Gekko BTW ... I am NOT rich. Just singin in the trickle Just singin in the trickle What a glorius feelin I'm HHappppy again... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #17 December 16, 2010 Quote I would probably rate it as a factor times the average income for your city. Here in Norfolk, the average income is only around $42,000. (city-data.com). You could live a VERY nice life sytle here for 5X that, or about $210,000. I would consider you rich if you made 10X the average income. yes - this can only be answered with a local viewpoint. 100k in SF means you rent, unless you bought in the 90s. Then you're probably ok. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AdamLanes 1 #18 December 17, 2010 QuoteSo yes, if you're in sub-saharan (sp?) Africa, you might be rich if you have $10,000/ year. Not just in Africa, but actually the majority of people in the world live on much less than $10,000 per year. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ManagingPrime 0 #19 December 17, 2010 Quote Not just in Africa, but actually the majority of people in the world live exist on much less than $10,000 per year. Simple answer if we are taking a global view: If you are an active skydiver you are a rich bitch. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #20 December 17, 2010 Quote Quote Not just in Africa, but actually the majority of people in the world live exist on much less than $10,000 per year. Simple answer if we are taking a global view: If you are an active skydiver you are a rich bitch. You post this with a winky eye but dude, your post is very profound! A very sharp perspective"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nanook 1 #21 December 17, 2010 Quotethe problem is that just because your tax return says you made X doesn't mean you made X. Because of the way corporate taxes are filed and bills are paid your cash flow could be under half of what your income tax form said. Um. . .what forms were you using to file three years ago?_____________________________ "The trouble with quotes on the internet is that you can never know if they are genuine" - Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
champu 1 #22 December 17, 2010 Rich is when you spend more time worrying about what to do with your money than worrying about what to do with your bills. Which means you can make yourself feel rich or poor at a pretty wide range of incomes. Sometimes having a couple kids is just as stupid as buying a yacht. I mean sure it's nice to name things, but fiscally they're just bad investments. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BobMoore 0 #23 December 17, 2010 QuoteSometimes having a couple kids is just as stupid as buying a yacht. Unless those couple kids are named Venus & Serena Williams."For you see, an airplane is an airplane. A landing area is a landing area. But a dropzone... a dropzone is the people." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
champu 1 #24 December 17, 2010 Ya know... I was hilarious until you got here. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skyrad 0 #25 December 17, 2010 QuoteQuoteSo yes, if you're in sub-saharan (sp?) Africa, you might be rich if you have $10,000/ year. Not just in Africa, but actually the majority of people in the world live on much less than $10,000 per year. The majority of the worlds poor live on less than 2$ a day. http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate-uk/2009/06/04/living-on-2-a-day/ Half the population of the world (3Billion people) live on less than $2.5 a day. http://www.globalissues.org/article/26/poverty-facts-and-statsWhen an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites