dmcoco84 5 #1 December 30, 2010 Finding our Creator... through Reason, and Mathematics. Intro... till 11m11s -- Gravity - through pt. 2... till 5m15s http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LikwXROkiQo I’m tired of hearing... “Reason and science tells me there is no God.” So then... let’s actually talk about science. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dmcoco84 5 #2 December 30, 2010 God... A Creator: Religion aside... “Religion is a way to interpret God. You can have God without religion.” Where did God come from? What created God? And what created that God? How can you have nothing, and then have a Creator, of some kind? The Big Bang Theory: It was neither big, nor was there a bang. In the vacuum of space, there is no sound... and the singularity would be infinitely small and infinitely dense. If correct... where did the singularity come from? You can’t have nothing and then have something. The Casimir Effect... (Billvon’s dead horse, that he enjoys kicking) an event occurrence, post initial singularity. It can only occur within space and time... if the Big Bang is “truth” of our beginning, Space and Time, were created by the rapid expansion of that singularity. “Cosmic Inflation takes place right after a pop from nothing into something.” The Big Bang Theory... the Three Act Play: Act 1: A singularity pops into existence out of nowhere and no when. Containing in one single dot all the energy that will ever be in our Universe. Act 2: Cosmic Inflation Act 3: Cooling... formation of stars and so on. Both are infinite concepts, currently unexplainable by the finite human mind. But... what if the Big Bang Theory is completely wrong? “A singularity just means we don’t understand the theory well enough.” “Interpreting this as the beginning... is just a crash, its not derived from any theory, its where the theory breaks down.” So comes... M-Theory: Where the Big Bang is not a beginning... but a collision. And if that is the case... how did these 11 dimensions come to be? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6oeZHYK4yfw&feature=related And as far as evolution goes... I don’t care! Because as far as I am concerned... God, MAY NOT, have created us in his/her image. Nor do I agree with the creation story... at least not verbatim. So ah... Lets keep this a religion free thread... shall we? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
winsor 236 #3 December 30, 2010 QuoteFinding our Creator... through Reason, and Mathematics. Intro... till 11m11s -- Gravity - through pt. 2... till 5m15s http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LikwXROkiQo I’m tired of hearing... “Reason and science tells me there is no God.” So then... let’s actually talk about science. No problem. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Belgian_Draft 0 #4 December 30, 2010 "God created all" is a way of rationalizing something that is not understood. It is a very simple explanation, albeit one that cann't be disproven (how handy ) Science may not have all the answers, but at least the ones it gives can be tested. If they are disproven they are disgarded. If testing doesn not diprove them then they are tested again..and again...and again. Saying God created everything is about as provable as saying the universe is just a giant tuna can full of dog doodoo. HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Coreece 190 #6 December 31, 2010 Quote RUBBISH! See..That's all you got.The only substantial refute in this thread was a refernce to the Onion...Everyone knows that I don't look to science to reinforce my beliefs, but coco makes sense...can anyone debate his point ? btw coco...winsor was the answer to you PM.Shhhhhhhhh!!!!Your secrets are the true reflection of who you really are... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tkhayes 348 #7 December 31, 2010 That's all I got? That's all I need. People reference one video on YouTube and it is supposed to completely change the world and prove the existence of God? Wow. I would thought that Fox at least would have picked that up. Not interested in writing down (again) all the arguments (AGAIN) that have already been made over and over (AGAIN), so yes, That's all I got ;-) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
champu 1 #8 December 31, 2010 Quotecan anyone debate his point ? Sure... as soon as you can debate this! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Coreece 190 #9 December 31, 2010 Quote That's all I got? Apparently not...Your secrets are the true reflection of who you really are... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Coreece 190 #10 December 31, 2010 QuoteSure... as soon as you can debate this! What...my nuts?Your secrets are the true reflection of who you really are... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
winsor 236 #11 December 31, 2010 QuoteFinding our Creator... through Reason, and Mathematics. Intro... till 11m11s -- Gravity - through pt. 2... till 5m15s http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LikwXROkiQo I’m tired of hearing... “Reason and science tells me there is no God.” So then... let’s actually talk about science. Dude, this is teevee. The whole bit about brininging mythology into the equation is to dumb it down enough that the unwashed masses can "understand" the presentation. There is a principle in advertising that, if you exceed an eighth-grade level, you have lost half of your audience. This applies to "science" teevee as well. The security-blanket provided by superstition apparently has appeal, but only serves to obfuscate the issues it purports to address. Religion is contingent upon the logical fallacy of argumentum ad ignoratio, or appeal to ignorance. I thus add religious structures to Patton's concrete fortifications as monuments to the stupidity of man. Despite what teachers are told to claim, there are stupid questions. Only a troglodyte would seek mathematical verification of superstition. Ask stupid questions and you get stupid answers. BSBD, Winsor Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dmcoco84 5 #12 December 31, 2010 Quote QuotePeople reference one video on YouTube and it is supposed to completely change the world and prove the existence of God? Wow. I would thought that Fox at least would have picked that up. You're an Idiot. QuoteNot interested in writing down (again) all the arguments (AGAIN) that have already been made over and over (AGAIN), so yes, That's all I got ;-) GOOD... Please Don't! As I said in "Why are you an Atheist" Thread after thread... the same atheism arguments... the same Religion arguments... the same (misinterpretation/revisionism of) Separation of Church and State chatter... And the continuous inability, of most, to separate GOD and Religion... How about we discuss Gravitons? What do you think about the mans theory? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites dmcoco84 5 #13 December 31, 2010 I have ADD... simpler is always better. How about Michio Kaku, a respected Theoretical Physicist. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hi6yPJvCFU0 I have repeatedly said that in my opinion the idea of a personal God is a childlike one. You may call me an agnostic, but I do not share the crusading spirits of the professional atheist whose fervor is mostly due to a painful act of liberation from the fetters of religious indoctrination received in youth. I prefer an attitude of humility corresponding to the weakness of our intellectual understanding of nature and of our own being. - Einstein Too bad Spinoza wasn't able to speak with our Founding Fathers... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites tkhayes 348 #14 December 31, 2010 QuoteYou're an Idiot. Is that all you got? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites jakee 1,501 #15 December 31, 2010 QuoteThe only substantial refute in this thread Refutation of what? QuoteEveryone knows that I don't look to science to reinforce my beliefs, but coco makes sense...can anyone debate his point ? What is his point? That God must exist where our current level of knowledge stops? It was wrong for the rising of the sun. It was wrong for lightning. It was wrong for earthquakes. It was wrong for evolution and it's been wrong for everything else inbetween. Why should it be right now?Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites nigel99 507 #16 December 31, 2010 Leaving religion out of the equation: 1) Are you assuming that "God" created us? I don't mean Adam and Eve any concept will do. 2) Have you got a definition of God that you find acceptable? For example is God a living being of some form? BTW - The weak force is stronger than EM - so that is wrong in the video. Could have been mis-spoken though. I agree that it is truly mind-blowing that everything is so perfectly "fine tuned". I am not sure physics is the best place to look as the concepts can be so complicated that conjecture can quickly enter the equation and whether you are Stephen Hawking claiming that there are multiple parallel Universes or an Anglican Priest crediting God - both are purely conjecture. I think that God is a philosophical discussion and not scientific - the human mind and belief systems are intriguing and I believe provide alot more insight.Experienced jumper - someone who has made mistakes more often than I have and lived. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites billvon 3,009 #17 December 31, 2010 >The Big Bang Theory... the Three Act Play: >Act 1: A singularity pops into existence out of nowhere and no when. >Containing in one single dot all the energy that will ever be in our Universe. >Act 2: Cosmic Inflation >Act 3: Cooling... formation of stars and so on. >Both are infinite concepts, currently unexplainable by the finite human >mind. ?? Inflation and cooling are both quite bounded, and both quite explainable. >But... what if the Big Bang Theory is completely wrong? Then someone went through a lot of effort to put all the clues in the universe that point to it. >Lets keep this a religion free thread... shall we? Given that you've mentioned God ten times and religion four times in this post alone - I doubt it! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Belgian_Draft 0 #18 December 31, 2010 QuoteLeaving religion out of the equation: 1) Are you assuming that "God" created us? I don't mean Adam and Eve any concept will do. 2) Have you got a definition of God that you find acceptable? For example is God a living being of some form? BTW - The weak force is stronger than EM - so that is wrong in the video. Could have been mis-spoken though. I agree that it is truly mind-blowing that everything is so perfectly "fine tuned". I am not sure physics is the best place to look as the concepts can be so complicated that conjecture can quickly enter the equation and whether you are Stephen Hawking claiming that there are multiple parallel Universes or an Anglican Priest crediting God - both are purely conjecture. I think that God is a philosophical discussion and not scientific - the human mind and belief systems are intriguing and I believe provide alot more insight. Sure it can be quite astounding that all the right things happened at all the right times for life to have evolved to where it is now here on earth. A lot of those things are coincidences that happened inspite of the long odds against them. However, that fact that we are where we are now is all the proof needed to show it can happen...because it did happen. Science is discovering life can take many forms previously thought impossible. This opens up countless possibilities for life in places other than earth and under circumstances that would have resulted in a dead planet here. Faced with the choice of either trying to comprehend all the possibilities of how can form, most people just give up and accept the "God created all" explanation. It is, after all, the easy way out.HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Andy9o8 2 #19 December 31, 2010 Quotesomeone went through a lot of effort to put all the clues in the universe that point to it. Aha!! Hoisted on your own petard! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites nigel99 507 #20 December 31, 2010 QuoteSure it can be quite astounding that all the right things happened at all the right times for life to have evolved to where it is now here on earth. A lot of those things are coincidences that happened inspite of the long odds against them. However, that fact that we are where we are now is all the proof needed to show it can happen...because it did happen. Science is discovering life can take many forms previously thought impossible. This opens up countless possibilities for life in places other than earth and under circumstances that would have resulted in a dead planet here. Faced with the choice of either trying to comprehend all the possibilities of how can form, most people just give up and accept the "God created all" explanation. It is, after all, the easy way out I agree completely. I do however believe that some people are happier believing in God and it is a victimless crime so they should be left to it. I grew out of Santa before I was 10, it took me another 10 or 15 years to grow out of God. I personally am happier for it. I love watching the debates though as no one ever seems to have the balls to put their hands up and say "I don't know all the fucking answers". The vocal physicists are as bad as the religious crowd.Experienced jumper - someone who has made mistakes more often than I have and lived. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Andy9o8 2 #21 December 31, 2010 Quoteno one ever seems to have the balls to put their hands up and say "I don't know all the fucking answers". The vocal physicists are as bad as the religious crowd. No, they're really not. That twists what the "vocal physicists" are saying; every scientist readily admits he doesn't have all the answers. What they are saying is, "I may not have all the answers, but I know the difference between reality and imagination." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites sundevil777 102 #22 December 31, 2010 QuoteThe vocal physicists are as bad as the religious crowd. Some vocal physicists are able to reconcile philosophy in terms of religion and physics, such as Werner Heisenberg and Fritjof Capra. Religion does not have to mean the doctrine provided by the establishment. I don't think any of the worlds religions have it right, and that science will someday show that a spiritual component to the universe does in fact exist.People are sick and tired of being told that ordinary and decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired. I’m certainly not, and I’m sick and tired of being told that I am Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites winsor 236 #23 December 31, 2010 QuoteQuoteSure it can be quite astounding that all the right things happened at all the right times for life to have evolved to where it is now here on earth. A lot of those things are coincidences that happened inspite of the long odds against them. However, that fact that we are where we are now is all the proof needed to show it can happen...because it did happen. Science is discovering life can take many forms previously thought impossible. This opens up countless possibilities for life in places other than earth and under circumstances that would have resulted in a dead planet here. Faced with the choice of either trying to comprehend all the possibilities of how can form, most people just give up and accept the "God created all" explanation. It is, after all, the easy way out I agree completely. I do however believe that some people are happier believing in God and it is a victimless crime so they should be left to it. I grew out of Santa before I was 10, it took me another 10 or 15 years to grow out of God. I personally am happier for it. I love watching the debates though as no one ever seems to have the balls to put their hands up and say "I don't know all the fucking answers". The vocal physicists are as bad as the religious crowd. "The race is not always to the swift, nor the battle to the strong. That is, however, the way to bet." When asked whether there is a chance that exists, we say "yes." This is simply being polite, since the likelihood there exists anything that remotely resembles said deity as defined is vanishingly small, and may be treated as zero for all intents and purposes. It is on a par with the statistical likelihood that a kitchen cabinet will spontaneously undergo uncontrolled nuclear fission and wipe out Los Angeles - nonzero only for the sake of argument. People believing in nonsense is far from a victimless crime. A large group of people making very bad decisions on the basis of patent nonsense has all too often had large-scale and entirely criminal consequences. Superstitious people have inflicted great evil on the innocent throughout history often enough that it is rather a standard mode of behavior. You do not have to know all the answers to be able to spot ignorance on steroids. This is to say that one need not know what is specifically true to recognize something that is patently false. It is in keeping with my view of religion as a viral pathology that the most definitively false belief sets are the most virulent. The more glaringly false are the tenets of an ism, the more dangerous are its adherents when their demands for respect are not honored to their liking. I am in favor of DADT when it comes to beliefs. If you must adhere to something that goes beyond stupidity, PLEASE spare me the details. If you choose to proselytize, do not take it personally if the response is not positive. BSBD, Winsor Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Belgian_Draft 0 #24 December 31, 2010 QuoteQuoteSure it can be quite astounding that all the right things happened at all the right times for life to have evolved to where it is now here on earth. A lot of those things are coincidences that happened inspite of the long odds against them. However, that fact that we are where we are now is all the proof needed to show it can happen...because it did happen. Science is discovering life can take many forms previously thought impossible. This opens up countless possibilities for life in places other than earth and under circumstances that would have resulted in a dead planet here. Faced with the choice of either trying to comprehend all the possibilities of how can form, most people just give up and accept the "God created all" explanation. It is, after all, the easy way out I agree completely. I do however believe that some people are happier believing in God and it is a victimless crime so they should be left to it. I grew out of Santa before I was 10, it took me another 10 or 15 years to grow out of God. I personally am happier for it. I love watching the debates though as no one ever seems to have the balls to put their hands up and say "I don't know all the fucking answers". The vocal physicists are as bad as the religious crowd. Yep, it's victimless. Except for those times "sinners" were tied down, a slit made in their abdominal wall, and small starving rodents inserted to eat their fill. If the victim were lucky one of the rodents would bite into a major artery and the victim would bleed to death. If not, infection would kill in a few days. Oh, and let's not forget the Crusades. Or the Inquisition. And Jihad. And pedophilic priests. I think you get the picture.HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Amazon 7 #25 December 31, 2010 QuoteRUBBISH! I wonder what the correlation is between varied gravity anomalies as found in disparate geographic locations around the world and the numbers of DENSE Mutherfuckers in any one area, where the gravity anomolies are. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Prev 1 2 Next Page 1 of 2 Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. Display as a link instead × Your previous content has been restored. Clear editor × You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL. Insert image from URL × Desktop Tablet Phone Submit Reply 0
dmcoco84 5 #13 December 31, 2010 I have ADD... simpler is always better. How about Michio Kaku, a respected Theoretical Physicist. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hi6yPJvCFU0 I have repeatedly said that in my opinion the idea of a personal God is a childlike one. You may call me an agnostic, but I do not share the crusading spirits of the professional atheist whose fervor is mostly due to a painful act of liberation from the fetters of religious indoctrination received in youth. I prefer an attitude of humility corresponding to the weakness of our intellectual understanding of nature and of our own being. - Einstein Too bad Spinoza wasn't able to speak with our Founding Fathers... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tkhayes 348 #14 December 31, 2010 QuoteYou're an Idiot. Is that all you got? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,501 #15 December 31, 2010 QuoteThe only substantial refute in this thread Refutation of what? QuoteEveryone knows that I don't look to science to reinforce my beliefs, but coco makes sense...can anyone debate his point ? What is his point? That God must exist where our current level of knowledge stops? It was wrong for the rising of the sun. It was wrong for lightning. It was wrong for earthquakes. It was wrong for evolution and it's been wrong for everything else inbetween. Why should it be right now?Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nigel99 507 #16 December 31, 2010 Leaving religion out of the equation: 1) Are you assuming that "God" created us? I don't mean Adam and Eve any concept will do. 2) Have you got a definition of God that you find acceptable? For example is God a living being of some form? BTW - The weak force is stronger than EM - so that is wrong in the video. Could have been mis-spoken though. I agree that it is truly mind-blowing that everything is so perfectly "fine tuned". I am not sure physics is the best place to look as the concepts can be so complicated that conjecture can quickly enter the equation and whether you are Stephen Hawking claiming that there are multiple parallel Universes or an Anglican Priest crediting God - both are purely conjecture. I think that God is a philosophical discussion and not scientific - the human mind and belief systems are intriguing and I believe provide alot more insight.Experienced jumper - someone who has made mistakes more often than I have and lived. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,009 #17 December 31, 2010 >The Big Bang Theory... the Three Act Play: >Act 1: A singularity pops into existence out of nowhere and no when. >Containing in one single dot all the energy that will ever be in our Universe. >Act 2: Cosmic Inflation >Act 3: Cooling... formation of stars and so on. >Both are infinite concepts, currently unexplainable by the finite human >mind. ?? Inflation and cooling are both quite bounded, and both quite explainable. >But... what if the Big Bang Theory is completely wrong? Then someone went through a lot of effort to put all the clues in the universe that point to it. >Lets keep this a religion free thread... shall we? Given that you've mentioned God ten times and religion four times in this post alone - I doubt it! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Belgian_Draft 0 #18 December 31, 2010 QuoteLeaving religion out of the equation: 1) Are you assuming that "God" created us? I don't mean Adam and Eve any concept will do. 2) Have you got a definition of God that you find acceptable? For example is God a living being of some form? BTW - The weak force is stronger than EM - so that is wrong in the video. Could have been mis-spoken though. I agree that it is truly mind-blowing that everything is so perfectly "fine tuned". I am not sure physics is the best place to look as the concepts can be so complicated that conjecture can quickly enter the equation and whether you are Stephen Hawking claiming that there are multiple parallel Universes or an Anglican Priest crediting God - both are purely conjecture. I think that God is a philosophical discussion and not scientific - the human mind and belief systems are intriguing and I believe provide alot more insight. Sure it can be quite astounding that all the right things happened at all the right times for life to have evolved to where it is now here on earth. A lot of those things are coincidences that happened inspite of the long odds against them. However, that fact that we are where we are now is all the proof needed to show it can happen...because it did happen. Science is discovering life can take many forms previously thought impossible. This opens up countless possibilities for life in places other than earth and under circumstances that would have resulted in a dead planet here. Faced with the choice of either trying to comprehend all the possibilities of how can form, most people just give up and accept the "God created all" explanation. It is, after all, the easy way out.HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 2 #19 December 31, 2010 Quotesomeone went through a lot of effort to put all the clues in the universe that point to it. Aha!! Hoisted on your own petard! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nigel99 507 #20 December 31, 2010 QuoteSure it can be quite astounding that all the right things happened at all the right times for life to have evolved to where it is now here on earth. A lot of those things are coincidences that happened inspite of the long odds against them. However, that fact that we are where we are now is all the proof needed to show it can happen...because it did happen. Science is discovering life can take many forms previously thought impossible. This opens up countless possibilities for life in places other than earth and under circumstances that would have resulted in a dead planet here. Faced with the choice of either trying to comprehend all the possibilities of how can form, most people just give up and accept the "God created all" explanation. It is, after all, the easy way out I agree completely. I do however believe that some people are happier believing in God and it is a victimless crime so they should be left to it. I grew out of Santa before I was 10, it took me another 10 or 15 years to grow out of God. I personally am happier for it. I love watching the debates though as no one ever seems to have the balls to put their hands up and say "I don't know all the fucking answers". The vocal physicists are as bad as the religious crowd.Experienced jumper - someone who has made mistakes more often than I have and lived. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 2 #21 December 31, 2010 Quoteno one ever seems to have the balls to put their hands up and say "I don't know all the fucking answers". The vocal physicists are as bad as the religious crowd. No, they're really not. That twists what the "vocal physicists" are saying; every scientist readily admits he doesn't have all the answers. What they are saying is, "I may not have all the answers, but I know the difference between reality and imagination." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sundevil777 102 #22 December 31, 2010 QuoteThe vocal physicists are as bad as the religious crowd. Some vocal physicists are able to reconcile philosophy in terms of religion and physics, such as Werner Heisenberg and Fritjof Capra. Religion does not have to mean the doctrine provided by the establishment. I don't think any of the worlds religions have it right, and that science will someday show that a spiritual component to the universe does in fact exist.People are sick and tired of being told that ordinary and decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired. I’m certainly not, and I’m sick and tired of being told that I am Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
winsor 236 #23 December 31, 2010 QuoteQuoteSure it can be quite astounding that all the right things happened at all the right times for life to have evolved to where it is now here on earth. A lot of those things are coincidences that happened inspite of the long odds against them. However, that fact that we are where we are now is all the proof needed to show it can happen...because it did happen. Science is discovering life can take many forms previously thought impossible. This opens up countless possibilities for life in places other than earth and under circumstances that would have resulted in a dead planet here. Faced with the choice of either trying to comprehend all the possibilities of how can form, most people just give up and accept the "God created all" explanation. It is, after all, the easy way out I agree completely. I do however believe that some people are happier believing in God and it is a victimless crime so they should be left to it. I grew out of Santa before I was 10, it took me another 10 or 15 years to grow out of God. I personally am happier for it. I love watching the debates though as no one ever seems to have the balls to put their hands up and say "I don't know all the fucking answers". The vocal physicists are as bad as the religious crowd. "The race is not always to the swift, nor the battle to the strong. That is, however, the way to bet." When asked whether there is a chance that exists, we say "yes." This is simply being polite, since the likelihood there exists anything that remotely resembles said deity as defined is vanishingly small, and may be treated as zero for all intents and purposes. It is on a par with the statistical likelihood that a kitchen cabinet will spontaneously undergo uncontrolled nuclear fission and wipe out Los Angeles - nonzero only for the sake of argument. People believing in nonsense is far from a victimless crime. A large group of people making very bad decisions on the basis of patent nonsense has all too often had large-scale and entirely criminal consequences. Superstitious people have inflicted great evil on the innocent throughout history often enough that it is rather a standard mode of behavior. You do not have to know all the answers to be able to spot ignorance on steroids. This is to say that one need not know what is specifically true to recognize something that is patently false. It is in keeping with my view of religion as a viral pathology that the most definitively false belief sets are the most virulent. The more glaringly false are the tenets of an ism, the more dangerous are its adherents when their demands for respect are not honored to their liking. I am in favor of DADT when it comes to beliefs. If you must adhere to something that goes beyond stupidity, PLEASE spare me the details. If you choose to proselytize, do not take it personally if the response is not positive. BSBD, Winsor Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Belgian_Draft 0 #24 December 31, 2010 QuoteQuoteSure it can be quite astounding that all the right things happened at all the right times for life to have evolved to where it is now here on earth. A lot of those things are coincidences that happened inspite of the long odds against them. However, that fact that we are where we are now is all the proof needed to show it can happen...because it did happen. Science is discovering life can take many forms previously thought impossible. This opens up countless possibilities for life in places other than earth and under circumstances that would have resulted in a dead planet here. Faced with the choice of either trying to comprehend all the possibilities of how can form, most people just give up and accept the "God created all" explanation. It is, after all, the easy way out I agree completely. I do however believe that some people are happier believing in God and it is a victimless crime so they should be left to it. I grew out of Santa before I was 10, it took me another 10 or 15 years to grow out of God. I personally am happier for it. I love watching the debates though as no one ever seems to have the balls to put their hands up and say "I don't know all the fucking answers". The vocal physicists are as bad as the religious crowd. Yep, it's victimless. Except for those times "sinners" were tied down, a slit made in their abdominal wall, and small starving rodents inserted to eat their fill. If the victim were lucky one of the rodents would bite into a major artery and the victim would bleed to death. If not, infection would kill in a few days. Oh, and let's not forget the Crusades. Or the Inquisition. And Jihad. And pedophilic priests. I think you get the picture.HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #25 December 31, 2010 QuoteRUBBISH! I wonder what the correlation is between varied gravity anomalies as found in disparate geographic locations around the world and the numbers of DENSE Mutherfuckers in any one area, where the gravity anomolies are. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
