doughboyshred 0 #26 January 8, 2011 http://southdakotapolitics.blogs.com/.a/6a00d8341c046f53ef01347fb32b4f970c-pi images would sure be nice on this site. There's the map with crosshairs over her district and the statement, "it's time to take a stand" produced by Palin's pac. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #27 January 8, 2011 Supposedly this is the shooter's YouTube channel. View it before it gets taken down. http://www.youtube.com/user/Classitup10 This is the one you really want to see; http://www.youtube.com/user/Classitup10#p/a/u/1/nHoaZaLbqB4quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kennedy 0 #28 January 8, 2011 It's painful trying to read that gibberish. Hindsight is 20/20, but that screams "I'm not right in the head" right after it screams "I didn't pay attention in basic English class."witty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1* Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,027 #29 January 8, 2011 QuoteQuoteWell, it could have been a left wing nutjob, since she was vocal about restricting immigration. Obviously it was a politically motivated killing. Palin was criticized for potentially inciting violence with her targeted cross hairs imagery. Now one of her "targets" has been shot in the head. Not a far reach to assume it was a right wing nutjob that pulled the trigger. Well, Obama urged latino voters to "punish our enemies", it was in Arizona and Giffords was for stronger borders - so, not a far reach to assume it was a left-wing nutjob that pulled the trigger. One thing is certain, it was yet another looney with a gun. When is the USA going to realize that looneys and guns are a bad combination?... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kennedy 0 #30 January 8, 2011 QuoteOne thing is certain, it was yet another looney with a gun. When is the USA going to realize that looneys and guns are a bad combination? I think pretty much everyone agrees with that. The difficulty is in defining a "loony" and just how far should be go to prevent that potentially dangerous mix. Professor, do you trust the BATFE to intelligently, reasonably, and effectively control access to explosives in this country? including oh I don't know, hobby rocket motors? Do you trust the DMV to monitor licensing and registration intelligently, reasonably, and effectively in each state?witty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1* Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #31 January 8, 2011 QuoteOne thing is certain, it was yet another looney with a gun. Agreed. QuoteWhen is the USA going to realize that looneys and guns are a bad combination? They already did - I refer you (yet again) to the restrictions in GCA 68. Maybe you should get that telepathy machine built so we can tell who's going to go off the tracks at some point in the future.Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #32 January 8, 2011 QuoteIt's painful trying to read that gibberish. Hindsight is 20/20, but that screams "I'm not right in the head" right after it screams "I didn't pay attention in basic English class." I'm guessing, based on the way the video is constructed and the sentence structure used in the super that this "favorite" video on his web site was also either his or he had a hand in it. http://www.youtube.com/user/Classitup10#p/a/f/0/3L1lsLU-kUwquade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airdvr 210 #33 January 8, 2011 QuoteQuoteQuoteWell, it could have been a left wing nutjob, since she was vocal about restricting immigration. Obviously it was a politically motivated killing. Palin was criticized for potentially inciting violence with her targeted cross hairs imagery. Now one of her "targets" has been shot in the head. Not a far reach to assume it was a right wing nutjob that pulled the trigger. Well, Obama urged latino voters to "punish our enemies", it was in Arizona and Giffords was for stronger borders - so, not a far reach to assume it was a left-wing nutjob that pulled the trigger. One thing is certain, it was yet another looney with a gun. When is the USA going to realize that looneys and guns are a bad combination? Looneys and guns have always been a bad combo...so is drinking and driving, unprotected sex, smoking, taking excessive amounts of a controlled narcotic etc...you see where I'm going. Need I continue?Please don't dent the planet. Destinations by Roxanne Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #34 January 8, 2011 I'm wondering if Loughner was 'blueboy' on DKOS? A rant on how Gifford was "dead to him", then two days later...Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #35 January 8, 2011 "Arizona Rep. Gabrielle Giffords is in an intensive care unit following surgery for a gunshot wound in the head at close range, the University of Arizona Medical Center announced Saturday afternoon. Dr. Peter Rhee, a surgeon and chief of the trauma, critical care and emergency surgery, said he is optimistic about the congresswoman's recovery." Good news - I wish the Congresswoman a speedy and complete recovery.Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #36 January 8, 2011 QuoteI'm wondering if Loughner was 'blueboy' on DKOS? A rant on how Gifford was "dead to him", then two days later... Difficult to say. My guess is the FBI already has all the IPs tracked by now. I'm sure we'll find out soon enough.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #37 January 8, 2011 Here's some confirmation that the name of the shoot is Jared Lee Loughner; http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/01/08/jared-lee-loughner-gabrielle-giffords-shooter_n_806243.html Wikipedia seems to be on top of things; http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jared_Lee_Loughnerquade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #38 January 8, 2011 Quotehttp://southdakotapolitics.blogs.com/.a/6a00d8341c046f53ef01347fb32b4f970c-pi images would sure be nice on this site. There's the map with crosshairs over her district and the statement, "it's time to take a stand" produced by Palin's pac. And here's the WHOLE release about the map (emphasis mine): Quote"On March 23, when Obamacare was signed into law, I launched my “Take back the 20” campaign, focusing on 20 congressional districts that John McCain and I carried in 2008 which are or were represented by members of Congress who voted in favor of Obamacare. They need to be held accountable for those votes. They voted for Obamacare. Now we can vote against them. We need to replace them with representatives who will respect the will of the people. That’s why today I’m launching a new Take Back the 20 website at www.takebackthe20.com! TakeBackthe20.com provides information about the candidates in these 20 districts who are committed to repealing and replacing Obamacare. It has links to their personal websites and their donation pages. It allows you to read up on them, and then support them in their race to defeat those who gave us this terrible bill.We have to send Washington a message that it’s not acceptable to disregard the will of the people. We have to tell them enough is enough. No more defying the Constitution. No more driving us off a financial cliff. We must repeal and replace Obamacare with patient-centered, results-driven, free market reform that provides solutions to people of all income levels without bankrupting our country. It’s time to make a stand! Let’s take back the 20!" Voting, not violence.Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 220 #39 January 8, 2011 QuoteSupposedly this is the shooter's YouTube channel. View it before it gets taken down. http://www.youtube.com/user/Classitup10 This is the one you really want to see; http://www.youtube.com/user/Classitup10#p/a/u/1/nHoaZaLbqB4 That was painful to read but it does sound from his statemenst that he is a left wing nutter.I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #40 January 8, 2011 Quotebut it does sound from his statemenst that he is a left wing nutter. I'm not so certain his political leanings are in any way clear other than he's against people that seem to be in control of the calendar, currency, grammar, sleep, whoever called him a "terrorist", mini-bibles being given to people signing up for the USMC, the Constitution, people against the Constitution (?). I dunno man, the guy seems pretty straight up batshit crazy without any specific political leanings.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 220 #41 January 8, 2011 Quote Quote but it does sound from his statemenst that he is a left wing nutter. I'm not so certain his political leanings are in any way clear other than he's against people that seem to be in control of the calendar, currency, grammar, sleep, whoever called him a "terrorist", mini-bibles being given to people signing up for the USMC, the Constitution, people against the Constitution (?). I dunno man, the guy seems pretty straight up batshit crazy without any specific political leanings. He doesn't like the constitution, or mini bibles . . . Left.I kid - But - Ya know - he is known by three names John Wilkes Booth (Lincoln) Lee Harvey Oswald (JFK) Mark David Chapman (Lennon) James Earl Ray (MLK Jr.) Do you have a spare Tinfoil Hat?I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 220 #42 January 8, 2011 QuoteQuotebut it does sound from his statemenst that he is a left wing nutter. I'm not so certain his political leanings are in any way clear other than he's against people that seem to be in control of the calendar, currency, grammar, sleep, whoever called him a "terrorist", mini-bibles being given to people signing up for the USMC, the Constitution, people against the Constitution (?). I dunno man, the guy seems pretty straight up batshit crazy without any specific political leanings. Jared Lee Loughner I wonder if that is an intentional pun on his name (Loner), or if the name had something to do with his state of mine?I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
scruffy 0 #43 January 8, 2011 I agree wholeheartedly. People have been quick to put the blame on the political ideology they don't personally hold all morning and it's absolutely absurd. If he ends up being a right wing nutter he is not a representation of the republicans or the tea party/palin supporters and if he ends up being left wing he doesn't represent democrats/progressives. The only commentary I've drawn is that clearly there are people in this nation who are disgruntled with our government, myself included. But whatever his motivations for wanting the congresswoman dead his attempt at voting from the rooftops in all likelihood could have never been served to meet those ends. The voting box still works and for congressmen/women there is a revolution every two years.Peace, love and hoppiness Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 220 #44 January 8, 2011 Quote If he ends up being a right wing nutter he is not a representation of the republicans or the tea party/palin supporters and if he ends up being left wing he doesn't represent democrats/progressives. Nice theory . . . The actual application of it won't pass muster though. If he is proven to be a RW extremist, we will never hear the end of it. If he is proven to be a liberal Terrorist, then the left will be rerminded of the hypocrisy. It is a no win situation.I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #45 January 8, 2011 QuoteBut whatever his motivations for wanting the congresswoman dead . . . I'm NOT entirely certain he wanted HER dead, but rather saw the gathering as an opportunity. None of his videos specifically mention her or anything she even seemed to be related to. The one thing -I- get out of this event is that while there are rules for keeping guns out of the hands of nuts, they clearly don't work well enough.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Coreece 190 #46 January 8, 2011 Quote If he is proven to be a RW extremist, we will never hear the end of it. If he is proven to be a liberal Terrorist, then the left will be rerminded of the hypocrisy. It is a no win situation. It looks like the LW/RW accusations aren't going anywhere...next stop - Religion. It appears that he is Atheist!Your secrets are the true reflection of who you really are... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #47 January 8, 2011 Quote It looks like the LW/RW accusations aren't going anywhere...next stop - Religion. It appears that he is Atheist! Probably "agnostic" since he makes a specific comment in his video about how the USMC recruiter dealt with his unwillingness to specifically declare. An actual atheist generally has no such hesitation (or would need to) in a setting such as that.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #48 January 8, 2011 QuoteQuote If he ends up being a right wing nutter he is not a representation of the republicans or the tea party/palin supporters and if he ends up being left wing he doesn't represent democrats/progressives. Nice theory . . . The actual application of it won't pass muster though. If he is proven to be a RW extremist, we will never hear the end of it. If he is proven to be a liberal Terrorist, then the left will be rerminded of the hypocrisy. It is a no win situation. Agreed and reading what was posted here seems to indicate to me he was a loon on both sides"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Coreece 190 #49 January 8, 2011 Quote Quote It looks like the LW/RW accusations aren't going anywhere...next stop - Religion. It appears that he is Atheist! Probably "agnostic" since he makes a specific comment in his video about how the USMC recruiter dealt with him. He said "none" when asked about his religion, not "I don't know." Either way I don't care...It's just a sad day. I feel for her husband.Your secrets are the true reflection of who you really are... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
muff528 3 #50 January 8, 2011 Quote Quote But whatever his motivations for wanting the congresswoman dead . . . I'm NOT entirely certain he wanted HER dead, but rather saw the gathering as an opportunity. None of his videos specifically mention her or anything she even seemed to be related to. The one thing -I- get out of this event is that while there are rules for keeping guns out of the hands of nuts, they clearly don't work well enough. Even scarier to me ...who gets to decide who is and who isn't is ...a "nut" before any nut-like behavior is displayed. And who decides who decides? (and how can I get that job? ) And who decides what "nut-like" behavior is? A "nut" is not a "nut" until he is proclaimed a "nut" by some authorized authority. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
