Ala. gov. apologizes for remarks on non-Christians

[jclalor 12]

Another bigoted politician, what do you expect coming from the governor of Alabamistan.



http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/41149562/ns/politics-more_politics/

[billvon 3,008]

Eh, everybody says stupid shit occasionally. Good for him for apologizing. We need more politicians willing to admit their mistakes.

[rushmc 23]

I just read a story from a different source that had a completly different angle on his comments.

Makes it easy to understand your position seeing how you link pmsmsnbc as your source

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[jclalor 12]

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Eh, everybody says stupid shit occasionally. Good for him for apologizing. We need more politicians willing to admit their mistakes.

Saying 'stupid shit" is one thing, claiming that you are detached from a large portion of your state is another.

If a person makes the statement " fuck them nigger and "Jew bastards" I don't care if they do apologize, means nothing to me except they were outed and had no choice. I now know exactly where they are coming from.


Was he sorry he said it? 100%, does he still believe it? of course he does. Only politicians that know it is in their best interest to apologize ever do. He even had to do the half ass "If I offended anyone" makes it kind of sound like it's the fault of the offended party.

[Amazon 7]

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I just read a story from a different source that had a completly different angle on his comments.

Makes it easy to understand your position seeing how you link pmsmsnbc as your source

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And with that I throw the mysogynist card.

So many posts.. so many ism's


Oh thats right.. you hate all that silly PC stuff.


Guys.. the Guv is a Southern Baptist preacher man... do you reaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaly expect different???


Southern Baptists........water boarding members for Christ for hundreds of years.

[jclalor 12]

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I just read a story from a different source that had a completly different angle on his comments.

Makes it easy to understand your position seeing how you link pmsmsnbc as your source

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Were you reading the Fox article? It's funny how the articles premise is that no Christians seemed to be offended, only the non Christians were, and you know who's in that group.


http://www.foxnews.com/us/2011/01/20/new-governors-words-dont-upset-alabama/

[Andrewwhyte 1]

The article claims 30% of Alabamans are not born again Christians, but they didn't quote any of them.

[Andy9o8 2]

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The article claims 30% of Alabamans are not born again Christians, but they didn't quote any of them.

I finally figured out born-again Christians: They get to vote twice!
Sneaky bastards.

[tkhayes 348]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XfSN4fnXwKM

This ain't Alabama, but it has the same effect.

Truly scary, but to us Canucks - it was/is fucking hilarious and says it all.

You have to watch it to the end, Huckabee featured.

[billvon 3,008]

>If a person makes the statement " fuck them nigger and "Jew bastards" . . .

I don't think this is quite the same level.

Yes, politicians are stupid, and they're often somewhat bigoted. But much better to screw up and admit it than to screw up, try to cover it up, not admit you made a mistake, then claim you're being persecuted the same way the European Jews were.

[wmw999 2,461]

It's what comes from mixing church and state in the same sentence. In church, he's brother of born-again Christians. He would be unlikely to take communion in a Catholic church, and might not be allowed to in other churches.

I haven't paid enough attention to the story to figure out if he's the one who mixed the contexts, or if the media mixed them. Either way, I doubt this means that he'll govern non-born-again Christians any differently.

But it does show the danger of mixing church with secular life too much, when you live somewhere that's not homogeneous.

Wendy P.

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[BillyVance 34]

You have to understand one thing.... He is not a career politician. He's basically a rookie. He's a medical doctor by trade. I didn't vote for him though, but now that we're stuck with him, I hope he learns from this faux pas.

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[rehmwa 2]

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>If a person makes the statement " fuck them nigger and "Jew bastards" . . .

I don't think this is quite the same level.

Yes, politicians are stupid, and they're often somewhat bigoted. But much better to screw up and admit it than to screw up, try to cover it up, not admit you made a mistake, then claim you're being persecuted the same way the European Jews were.

you're starting see what's going on?

if you have a "D" or an "R" and you are in politics and make a gaff. Here's the commentary -

"that's was terrible, see? he's not even APOLOGIZING!!! if he apologized it would be ok - he must be evil"

he apologizes

"well, it's not good enough, he's too evil"

etc ad nauseum

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[kallend 2,032]

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>If a person makes the statement " fuck them nigger and "Jew bastards" . . .

I don't think this is quite the same level.

Yes, politicians are stupid, and they're often somewhat bigoted. But much better to screw up and admit it than to screw up, try to cover it up, not admit you made a mistake, then claim you're being persecuted the same way the European Jews were.

you're starting see what's going on?

if you have a "D" or an "R" and you are in politics and make a gaff. Here's the commentary -

"that's was terrible, see? he's not even APOLOGIZING!!! if he apologized it would be ok - he must be evil"

he apologizes

"well, it's not good enough, he's too evil"

etc ad nauseum

I'd prefer that the elected leaders didn't make stupid gaffes in the first place. IMO it shows that they are not appropriate for leadership positions.

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[billvon 3,008]

>I'd prefer that the elected leaders didn't make stupid gaffes in the first
>place. IMO it shows that they are not appropriate for leadership
> positions.

Agreed, that would be ideal. Still, I have a feeling you're more likely to defend, say, Pelosi when she makes stupid gaffes (which she does with some regularity) than this guy.

It doesn't worry me when people screw up. Means they're human. It does worry me when they start defending their screwup, because it means they won't get any better.

[futuredivot 0]

He was speaking to a church group, so what he said in context was correct and appropriate for the situation. Not sure why he felt the need to apologize for someone else's misunderstanding. If the original reporter was at the event, they should have been able to put the statement in it's proper meaning-but where's the news drama in that?.

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[davjohns 1]

If he was speaking as Governor, it wasn't something to be discussed and therefore not said. If he was speaking as Robert Bentley, he should feel free.

In context, I call skydivers brother or sister all the time. I call fellow servicemembers by the same monikers. At the hang glider park; same thing. Ordinary people on the street don't get that kind of comeraderie from me.

I am curious whether the same people offended by this statement were equally offended by the POTUS declaration to be on the side of Muslims; or if it just depends on your flavor as to when you get offended.

I also note that the two news articles (MSNBC and FOX) had different slants on exactly what was said. The Fox one purported to be a quote that was inclusive of Christians. The MSNBC article paraphrased to exclude non-Christians. The paraphrase gave it a more offensive timber. Always question the media. They always have an axe to grind. Every media article I have seen, where I knew the facts first hand, was mis-reported. Every one.

I know it just wouldnt be right to kill all the stupid people that we meet..

But do you think it would be appropriate to just remove all of the warning labels and let nature take its course.

[kallend 2,032]

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>I'd prefer that the elected leaders didn't make stupid gaffes in the first
>place. IMO it shows that they are not appropriate for leadership
> positions.

Agreed, that would be ideal. Still, I have a feeling you're more likely to defend, say, Pelosi when she makes stupid gaffes (which she does with some regularity) than this guy.

It doesn't worry me when people screw up. Means they're human. It does worry me when they start defending their screwup, because it means they won't get any better.

I don't like Pelosi at all. The only time I've made any defense of her was in the "Where's my jet" thread, which was a totally bogus trolling attack on her, and not a gaffe on her part.

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[champu 1]

I don't really give a shit what happens in Alabama.

[virgin-burner 1]

is "à la bama" a dish with reference to your president!?

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[Coreece 190]

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is "à la bama" a dish with reference to your president!?

That'a kinda funny actually...

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[mnealtx 0]

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is "à la bama" a dish with reference to your president!?

Yes - waffles with an arugula salad.

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