tkhayes 348 #1 February 4, 2011 YAAAAAAYYYYY!!! finally some fucking common sense.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Belgian_Draft 0 #2 February 4, 2011 You can't be fucking serious. The only thing that douchebag deserves is a mallet to the head. HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #3 February 4, 2011 getting nominated doesn't mean much. Didn't Saddam Hussein get nominated? Getting seriously considered, or actually selected means something. But a simple nom - not really. I think Pulitzer is a more suitable category to place the nomination than for peace. The Norwegian's argument that it's fostering peace by leading to overthrows of government is an interesting claim. In the short term, that's rather the opposite of peace. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 221 #4 February 4, 2011 Quotegetting nominated doesn't mean much. Didn't Saddam Hussein get nominated? Getting seriously considered, or actually selected means something. But a simple nom - not really. I think Pulitzer is a more suitable category to place the nomination than for peace. The Norwegian's argument that it's fostering peace by leading to overthrows of government is an interesting claim. In the short term, that's rather the opposite of peace. Actually, I will not have lost any more respect for the Nobel Peace Prize organization than when they gave it to Obama for nothing other than being (1/2)black and getting elected. It is about Par for them to give an award to someone like that. It is about Par for Obama to keep and be aligned with such company.I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wmw999 2,460 #5 February 4, 2011 Being nominated for a Nobel is kind of like being sued. It can happen to anyone, for any reason. Wendy P.There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 221 #6 February 4, 2011 QuoteBeing nominated for a Nobel is kind of like being sued. It can happen to anyone, for any reason. Wendy P. OK - so what if he wins?I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
captain1976 0 #7 February 4, 2011 I can't understand why any good American wouldn't support him, he exposes crimes of murder and mayhem committed and covered up by the US Government. Should we overlook these crimes? No! and the people responsible for them should be criminally prosecuted.You live more in the few minutes of skydiving than many people live in their lifetime Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 221 #8 February 4, 2011 QuoteI can't understand why any good American wouldn't support him, he exposes crimes of murder and mayhem committed and covered up by the US Government. Should we overlook these crimes? No! and the people responsible for them should be criminally prosecuted. So, in otherwords, every law enforcement group should receive the NPP then. What about the disinformation he put out? what about the doctored reports and the lies? Should we over look those as well?I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
captain1976 0 #9 February 4, 2011 QuoteQuoteI can't understand why any good American wouldn't support him, he exposes crimes of murder and mayhem committed and covered up by the US Government. Should we overlook these crimes? No! and the people responsible for them should be criminally prosecuted. What about the disinformation he put out? what about the doctored reports and the lies? Should we over look those as well? I don't think the US Government is after him for dis-information and doctored reports, this kind of thing is done in all medias every day. What pisses off the US is that Wikileaks disclosed actual crimes which embarrassed the criminals who wanted to keep them secret.You live more in the few minutes of skydiving than many people live in their lifetime Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 221 #10 February 4, 2011 QuoteQuoteQuoteI can't understand why any good American wouldn't support him, he exposes crimes of murder and mayhem committed and covered up by the US Government. Should we overlook these crimes? No! and the people responsible for them should be criminally prosecuted. What about the disinformation he put out? what about the doctored reports and the lies? Should we over look those as well? I don't think the US Government is after him for dis-information and doctored reports, this kind of thing is done in all medias every day. What pisses off the US is that Wikileaks disclosed actual crimes which embarrassed the criminals who wanted to keep them secret. So we should overlook the untruths then. GotchaI'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
freethefly 6 #11 February 4, 2011 QuoteWhat about the disinformation he put out? what about the doctored reports and the lies? I am unaware of any "doctored reports and the lies." Cite, please."...And once you're gone, you can't come back When you're out of the blue and into the black." Neil Young Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 221 #12 February 4, 2011 QuoteQuoteWhat about the disinformation he put out? what about the doctored reports and the lies? I am unaware of any "doctored reports and the lies." Cite, please. I assume you consider Michael Moore credible?I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wmw999 2,460 #13 February 4, 2011 I assume you consider Michelle Malkin credible? Wendy P.There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
captain1976 0 #14 February 4, 2011 Quote Quote Quote Quote I can't understand why any good American wouldn't support him, he exposes crimes of murder and mayhem committed and covered up by the US Government. Should we overlook these crimes? No! and the people responsible for them should be criminally prosecuted. What about the disinformation he put out? what about the doctored reports and the lies? Should we over look those as well? I don't think the US Government is after him for dis-information and doctored reports, this kind of thing is done in all medias every day. What pisses off the US is that Wikileaks disclosed actual crimes which embarrassed the criminals who wanted to keep them secret. So we should overlook the untruths then. Gotcha Ya got nothin', except maybe a disease called liberalismYou live more in the few minutes of skydiving than many people live in their lifetime Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wmw999 2,460 #15 February 4, 2011 Popcorn! That's what I need! Wendy P.There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tkhayes 348 #16 February 4, 2011 attaboy - STAND behind that constitution...... Mallets to the head for all - especially those who speak for truth.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 221 #17 February 4, 2011 QuotePopcorn! That's what I need! Wendy P. Think he missed the mark a little on that toss do you?I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tkhayes 348 #18 February 4, 2011 Michael Moore is a different piece of pie. He takes a stand on something and then takes it to the extreme to make a point. Not everything he says is 'true' but little of it is a lie. But he makes a good point. Not everyone in Cuba gets health care for a nickel. But Michael Moore makes that point by bringing someone to Cuba and getting them health care for a nickel. Did he make that up? Is he un-credible because he managed to do that? Julian Assange and Michael Moore are only alike in that you happen to dislike them both. They both stand for truth, just in different ways. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 221 #19 February 4, 2011 Quote Michael Moore is a different piece of pie. He takes a stand on something and then takes it to the extreme to make a point. Not everything he says is 'true' but little of it is a lie. But he makes a good point. Not everyone in Cuba gets health care for a nickel. But Michael Moore makes that point by bringing someone to Cuba and getting them health care for a nickel. Did he make that up? Is he un-credible because he managed to do that? Julian Assange and Michael Moore are only alike in that you happen to dislike them both. They both stand for truth, just in different ways. have you SEEN Michael Moore?I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 221 #21 February 4, 2011 Quotemany times, And you don't see a difference?I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tkhayes 348 #22 February 4, 2011 A difference of what? Between what? I actually said he was different (than Julian Assange) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
davjohns 1 #23 February 4, 2011 For various reasons, I've ignored the wikileaks thing. Anyone have a link to these crimes that were in the classified documents? I find that interesting. First I heard of it.I know it just wouldnt be right to kill all the stupid people that we meet.. But do you think it would be appropriate to just remove all of the warning labels and let nature take its course. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
freethefly 6 #24 February 4, 2011 QuoteQuoteQuoteWhat about the disinformation he put out? what about the doctored reports and the lies? I am unaware of any "doctored reports and the lies." Cite, please. I assume you consider Michael Moore credible? Well, considering that your link is to Malkin and to a piece by Power, two right wing fear mongers... Powers really twisted the story... Wiki merely released what was written by a State Dept. official. QuoteSo, on January 31, 2008, a State Department official stationed in Havana took a made up story and sent it back to his HQ in Washington. Here's what they concocted: XXXXXXXXXXXX stated that Cuban authorities have banned Michael Moore's documentary, "Sicko," as being subversive. Although the film's intent is to discredit the U.S. healthcare system by highlighting the excellence of the Cuban system, he said the regime knows the film is a myth and does not want to risk a popular backlash by showing to Cubans facilities that are clearly not available to the vast majority of them. http://www.michaelmoore.com/words/mike-friends-blog/viva-wikileaks"...And once you're gone, you can't come back When you're out of the blue and into the black." Neil Young Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Belgian_Draft 0 #25 February 4, 2011 Quoteattaboy - STAND behind that constitution...... Mallets to the head for all - especially those who speak for truth.... You assume everything he leaked was the truth. That's a lot of assumption. Standing up for the Constitution and standing up for someone who leaks confidential information WITHOUT REGARD TO CONTENT, INTENT, OR CONSEQUENCE are not the same thing. That idiot son of a bitch can kiss my ass and any citizen of the United States of America who supports him is a FUCKING TRAITOR.HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
