billvon 3,008 #626 March 4, 2011 >LOL, so anybody wishing to be a doctor serves mandatory military time? We actually have programs like this. Not just military; there's a civilian program that will pay a doctor's student loans off if they move to an underserved rural area to provide medical care. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VincePetaccio 0 #627 March 4, 2011 Quote We actually have programs like this. Not just military; there's a civilian program that will pay a doctor's student loans off if they move to an underserved rural area to provide medical care. OK, that's a bit easier to swallow, and I can appreciate such a program. However, what I was responding to with such indignity was the idea that all doctors should serve military time mandatorily, without creating an equal requirement for all professions.Come, my friends! 'Tis not too late to seek out a newer world! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Belgian_Draft 0 #628 March 4, 2011 Americans also have a higher instance of preventable health disorders such as obesity, high blood pressure, etc. But what the hell....those surely don't lower average life expectancy. Keep on dreaming about your socialist state. It may happen someday if enough suckers buy into it. I only agreed that your costs would go down, not the total which would actually rise from people visiting a doctor for every little stubbed toe and sniffle. It's too bad you are unwilling and unable to care for yourself. But don't expect me to look after you.HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #629 March 4, 2011 QuoteIt's too bad you are unwilling and unable to care for yourself. No, he said upthread that he bought insurance for himself - he just won't supply it to his employees.Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 221 #630 March 4, 2011 QuoteQuoteActually it sounds a lot like stealing. It reminds me of a poster here that returned a tent and camping supplies when he was done with it. Is that the kind of person you like to be? I mean it benefits him to not have to pay for the tent, right? So what if the rest of the country has to pay for higher prices because he wanted to not have to pay for what he used. so when you pay taxes to build a road that I drive on - I am 'stealing' from you? try again..... Then you stole all that money from me that funded a war (two wars) try again.... I notice you dodged answering the last half of the question - What was itr that you said to another poster here? Something about (Paraphased) if you cannot respond to the entire post - you are only showing you cannot back up your point.I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Belgian_Draft 0 #631 March 5, 2011 QuoteQuoteIt's too bad you are unwilling and unable to care for yourself. No, he said upthread that he bought insurance for himself - he just won't supply it to his employees. Oh, ok. I stand corrected.HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
popsjumper 2 #632 March 5, 2011 QuoteQuoteQuoteIt's too bad you are unwilling and unable to care for yourself. No, he said upthread that he bought insurance for himself - he just won't supply it to his employees. Oh, ok. I stand corrected. In light of your last statement: "It's too bad you are unwilling and unable to care for yourself. But don't expect me to look after you." You have no problem with Mike's push about providing for employees?My reality and yours are quite different. I think we're all Bozos on this bus. Falcon5232, SCS8170, SCSA353, POPS9398, DS239 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 221 #633 March 5, 2011 QuoteQuoteQuoteIt's too bad you are unwilling and unable to care for yourself. No, he said upthread that he bought insurance for himself - he just won't supply it to his employees. Oh, ok. I stand corrected. I guess he really doesn't want them to be covered by insurance afterall. It's not like he doesn't have the means.I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Belgian_Draft 0 #634 March 5, 2011 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteIt's too bad you are unwilling and unable to care for yourself. No, he said upthread that he bought insurance for himself - he just won't supply it to his employees. Oh, ok. I stand corrected. In light of your last statement: "It's too bad you are unwilling and unable to care for yourself. But don't expect me to look after you." You have no problem with Mike's push about providing for employees? Nope. The hypocracy of tk wanting taxpayers to pay for his health care in one breath and complaining about having to provided health care for his employees in the next somewhat speaks for itself.HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
popsjumper 2 #635 March 5, 2011 OK...nevermind. I don't know why I bothered to ask. I told myself I wouldn't respond to anymore idiocy and trolling. Stupid me. My reality and yours are quite different. I think we're all Bozos on this bus. Falcon5232, SCS8170, SCSA353, POPS9398, DS239 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HandsomeSalad 0 #636 March 5, 2011 Seems like this was 26 pages of... Big Government killing civilians in foreign lands - good Big Government taking over domestic services - bad Way to understand your own ideology. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Belgian_Draft 0 #637 March 5, 2011 Quote Seems like this was 26 pages of... Big Government killing civilians in foreign lands - good Big Government taking over domestic services - bad Way to understand your own ideology. Show even one post where anybody said, or strongly implied, that killing civilians ANYWHERE was good. The socialists, commies, and traitors have this thread fucked up enough without people making it worse by lying about it's content.HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tkhayes 348 #638 March 5, 2011 QuoteI guess he really doesn't want them to be covered by insurance afterall. It's not like he doesn't have the means You are ABSOLUTELY 100% correct. I do not want them covered by 'insurance'. Read my previous threads & posts. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #639 March 5, 2011 QuoteQuoteI guess he really doesn't want them to be covered by insurance afterall. It's not like he doesn't have the means You are ABSOLUTELY 100% correct. I do not want them covered by 'insurance'. Read my previous threads & posts. "I'm not going to cover you with insurance because other people aren't subsidizing it and I don't believe in insurance anyway. Oh, that reminds me, I need to send in the payment for my medical insurance next week."Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Belgian_Draft 0 #640 March 5, 2011 Quote Quote I guess he really doesn't want them to be covered by insurance afterall. It's not like he doesn't have the means You are ABSOLUTELY 100% correct. I do not want them covered by 'insurance'. Read my previous threads & posts. yes, yes, yes. We know. You want the government to pay for all health care. Then you will push for the government to pay for all food...then housing....then tansportation...etc. And you will justify all of it by saying that each and every person has the basic human right to them and should not be denied because they lack the monetary means to pay for them. There are already countries that do all that. Move to one of them. Leave this one to the people who take pride in taking care of themselves and helping others when they want, not because they are forced to.HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HandsomeSalad 0 #641 March 6, 2011 Quote Show even one post where anybody said, or strongly implied, that killing civilians ANYWHERE was good. Its implied when leaking documents that highlight war crimes is a strong negative. I'm just thinking of you Belgian Draft. The speed at which you take your 'Libertarian' hat off and put your nationalist hat on with any given subject may make you bald early. Quote The socialists, commies, and traitors have this thread fucked up enough without people making it worse by lying about it's content. Once we have dealt with these bastards we can finally go buy a Model T Ford and this new thing they call the vacuum. Also I have snake oil here you might be interested in. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tkhayes 348 #642 March 6, 2011 QuoteThen you will push for the government to pay for all food...then housing....then tansportation...e you are absolutely 100% INCORRECT. I do not advocate, nor have I ever advocated that government pays for everything. Health care yes, transportation, housing, food - that is called welfare and we already have a system in place. satisfactory to me. health care is what I advocate. Now knock off with the putting of words in my mouth. If you want to know what I want, all you have to do is ask - as you already know I will certainly TELL YOU. From your posts I could assume that you want slavery, anyone left-wing executed, euthanizing of masses of the people - just to save money for the rich people, and totalitarian Christian fundamentalist government. But I would never say that, because you never said that did you..... I would appreciate the same level of respect for my opinion. If you want to argue, i am fine with that. If you do not know how to argue, then kindly bow out before you embarrass yourself further..... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Belgian_Draft 0 #643 March 6, 2011 Quote Quote Show even one post where anybody said, or strongly implied, that killing civilians ANYWHERE was good. Its implied when leaking documents that highlight war crimes is a strong negative. I'm just thinking of you Belgian Draft. The speed at which you take your 'Libertarian' hat off and put your nationalist hat on with any given subject may make you bald early. Quote The socialists, commies, and traitors have this thread fucked up enough without people making it worse by lying about it's content. Once we have dealt with these bastards we can finally go buy a Model T Ford and this new thing they call the vacuum. Also I have snake oil here you might be interested in. Oh, you were just fantasizing. My bad. HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Belgian_Draft 0 #644 March 6, 2011 QuoteQuoteThen you will push for the government to pay for all food...then housing....then tansportation...e you are absolutely 100% INCORRECT. I do not advocate, nor have I ever advocated that government pays for everything. Health care yes, transportation, housing, food - that is called welfare and we already have a system in place. satisfactory to me. health care is what I advocate. Now knock off with the putting of words in my mouth. If you want to know what I want, all you have to do is ask - as you already know I will certainly TELL YOU. From your posts I could assume that you want slavery, anyone left-wing executed, euthanizing of masses of the people - just to save money for the rich people, and totalitarian Christian fundamentalist government. But I would never say that, because you never said that did you..... I would appreciate the same level of respect for my opinion. If you want to argue, i am fine with that. If you do not know how to argue, then kindly bow out before you embarrass yourself further..... Oh, don't worry, we all know what your opinion is. You have made that perfectly clear with no room for error. You want the government to supply everything. Embarrassed? Not hardly. I am able to take care of myself, help out those in need, and give financial aid to a deserving student once in a while. All without being told to by the government. You bitch because you have to pay for your employees health insurance.HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tkhayes 348 #645 March 6, 2011 QuoteYou want the government to supply everything. Absolutely 100% incorrect (again). As I said many times before, every time you open your mouth, you convince more and more people that my argument is valid. Kind of like Sarah Palin. She (and people like you) are the reason that we will be successful in the end. Your arguments are extreme while ours are reasonable. We (reasonable people) will prevail because of that. Obamacare is doomed to fail because it provides only insurance, and not health care. people in this country demand health care. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tkhayes 348 #646 March 6, 2011 Quote"I'm not going to cover you with insurance because other people aren't subsidizing it and I don't believe in insurance anyway. Oh, that reminds me, I need to send in the payment for my medical insurance next week." where did that quote come from? Since you went through the effort of putting it into quotation marks...... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tkhayes 348 #647 March 6, 2011 Quote Embarrassed? Not hardly. I am able to take care of myself, help out those in need, and give financial aid to a deserving student once in a while. All without being told to by the government. Are you planning to write checks to the VA to help out? http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/01/29/bachmann-takes-heat-veterans-group-proposing-benefits-cuts/ 'cause your conservation cronies don't apparently want to help the VA with all the wounded soldiers that we are creating. VA budget has doubled in 8 years? Can you guess why? Bachman suggests we are going to save $4.5B by cutting VA benefits? When we spend $660B a year MAKING injured soldiers? yep - you guys are RIGHT ON TRACK!!Oh yeah, that VA budget consists of about $60B, most of which are one of those commie socialist medical benefits programs, and commie socialist housing programs, and commie socialist disability programs..... keep talkin' dude..... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Belgian_Draft 0 #648 March 6, 2011 Quote Quote Embarrassed? Not hardly. I am able to take care of myself, help out those in need, and give financial aid to a deserving student once in a while. All without being told to by the government. Are you planning to write checks to the VA to help out? http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/01/29/bachmann-takes-heat-veterans-group-proposing-benefits-cuts/ 'cause your conservation cronies don't apparently want to help the VA with all the wounded soldiers that we are creating. VA budget has doubled in 8 years? Can you guess why? Bachman suggests we are going to save $4.5B by cutting VA benefits? When we spend $660B a year MAKING injured soldiers? yep - you guys are RIGHT ON TRACK!!Oh yeah, that VA budget consists of about $60B, most of which are one of those commie socialist medical benefits programs, and commie socialist housing programs, and commie socialist disability programs..... keep talkin' dude..... VA facilities are for veterans. Veterans are people who served in the miitary. The government is providing those services to people who did something for their country other than sit on their fat ass and make more babies. You, on the other hand, want to provide those same services to everyone regardless. Oh...I don't know where you got the idea that I am all for Republican or right wing ideals. I'm not. Not anymore than i am all for Democrat or left wing ideals. Yes, i'll keep talking. I will keep talking as long as there are people like you who want to turn this country into another USSR. I will keep talking as long as there are people like you who consider someone who sets out to harm my country a hero.HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tkhayes 348 #649 March 6, 2011 QuoteVA facilities are for veterans. Veterans are people who served in the miitary. The government is providing those services to people who did something for their country other than sit on their fat ass and make more babies. You, on the other hand, want to provide those same services to everyone regardless. So the only people that provide services to this country that are of any value are servicemen and women? You mean the guy who runs a company that gives a dozen people a job does not deserve any consideration? The lady who cooks dinners for poor people at her local church has no consideration for her contribution to society? You have to shoot someone while wearing a uniform to be of value? Wow, - yes you are right, keep talkin', keep talkin' Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Belgian_Draft 0 #650 March 6, 2011 QuoteQuoteVA facilities are for veterans. Veterans are people who served in the miitary. The government is providing those services to people who did something for their country other than sit on their fat ass and make more babies. You, on the other hand, want to provide those same services to everyone regardless. So the only people that provide services to this country that are of any value are servicemen and women? You mean the guy who runs a company that gives a dozen people a job does not deserve any consideration? The lady who cooks dinners for poor people at her local church has no consideration for her contribution to society? You have to shoot someone while wearing a uniform to be of value? Wow, - yes you are right, keep talkin', keep talkin' Who said anything about value? Where the fuck did THAT come from???? Military people are, in effect, owned by the government. They give up a lot of rights ordinary citizens take for granted, including the right to avoid life threatening situations. As such they should be taken care of by the government and that includes health care. No, creating jobs does not earn you free health care. You benefit greatly from each person you hire. If you don't then you aren't much of a business person. Yet you want everyone else to provide health care for the people who make you money. The only difference between that and some bum on the street begging for handouts is the clothing.HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
