popsjumper 2 #26 February 16, 2011 Quote My comment about saving lives is factual, my support of the bill is also my constitutional right. All true. It's the logic and common sense that got you there. Hmmmm...I'll give you two doctors who do abortions for 1 fetus. Is that a fair trade? I'll go as high as 3 doctors but no higher. My reality and yours are quite different. I think we're all Bozos on this bus. Falcon5232, SCS8170, SCSA353, POPS9398, DS239 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
popsjumper 2 #27 February 16, 2011 Quote Quote The worst thing about children- they grow up to be adults. Ya, so kill em'What a strange world view. Exactly what was said to the captain. Ruh Roh...the child grows up to be a doctor that performs abortions....killed. Why did we raise him in the first place? Sounds kinda like how we do cows except we don't eat doctors which makes it even worse. ...and you're right...It is My reality and yours are quite different. I think we're all Bozos on this bus. Falcon5232, SCS8170, SCSA353, POPS9398, DS239 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
popsjumper 2 #28 February 16, 2011 Quote Wouldn't it be more accurate to say, "South Dakota legislator introduces bill to make killing of abortion providers 'justifiable homicide?'" You say that as though it's your first exposure to "journalistic" sensationalism. My reality and yours are quite different. I think we're all Bozos on this bus. Falcon5232, SCS8170, SCSA353, POPS9398, DS239 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
popsjumper 2 #29 February 16, 2011 Me? I'm solidly free-choice It makes no sense to me to throw a woman or a doctor in jail for this. It makes no sense to me to punish a woman for having sex. It makes no sense to me to force a child into the world knowing that it's not going to have the support it needs. It makes no sense to me to tell a woman what to do or what not to do with her own body. It makes no sense at all given all those "personal freedom" proponents who support abortion laws. What if a woman doesn't want kids at all and has a hysterectomy at an early age? She's killing ALL those potential children. Mass Murder! Yikes! Oh wait! Those same people are trying to talk the woman out of having the procedure because she may change her mind later and want to have kids. It makes even less sense, in the case of this topic, to declare open season on the doctors. It's just insane. infinitely My reality and yours are quite different. I think we're all Bozos on this bus. Falcon5232, SCS8170, SCSA353, POPS9398, DS239 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tkhayes 348 #30 February 16, 2011 I think abortion ought to be retroactive in some cases.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
futuredivot 0 #31 February 16, 2011 Is it possible for you to post without resorting to childish name calling. You make such good points to be hidden behind the vitriolic rhetoric QuoteQuoteI have a real problem with the word "provide" Of course you do..... next time yall go on a rant about welfare.... for ANYONE... I will be sure to remind all the PRO LIFER buttstains who it is that Is really the LEAST PRO LIFE. PRO-LIFE= PRO WAR Pro supporting the soldiers that fought PRO-LIFE=DEATH PENALTY PROPONENT appropriate sentencing up to and including capital PRO-LIFE=PRO-STARVATION of the masses-just don't get this one PRO-LIFE= UNWILLING to pay for any childrens welfare or their families-You don't want to know what I spend on coats, shoes, food, school supplies etc every year and I don't have kids and the list goes on and on and on and on.-yes it doesYou are only as strong as the prey you devour Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 2 #32 February 16, 2011 I'm just happy to see a SC thread that nobody morphs into guns or Muslims. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
funjumper101 15 #33 February 16, 2011 Quote I'm quite sure this bill is just a piece of grandstanding. It's disgusting. Wishing that women wouldn't get pregnant if they don't want to won't make it happen. Wishing that women wouldn't get pregnant with babies who are guaranteed to suffer from devastating life-limiting birth defects like Trisomy 13 won't make it stop. Wishing that birth control would be perfect won't make it so. Abortion is a serious decision, and should be treated as such. Only in the last 50 years or so has the "life begins at conception" viewpoint been strongly held outside the Catholic church as far as I can tell. Women since time immemorial have done what they could not to get pregnant sometimes, and have also done what they could to (discreetly) end pregnancies that were inconvenient. Whether it was talking to the local midwife, working extra hard in the fields, or other means, it's always happened. But I guess it's OK as long as it's illegal and really dangerous, right Wendy P. Allow me to add that the "pro-life" crowd is incredibly sexist and male chauvinistic on this issue. The foundation of their argument against a woman's right to choose is that women are stupid, emotional, and cannot make rational decisions on issues of this magnitude. That conception of reality requires EXTREMELY intrusive governmental and PERSONAL interference in this most private of matters. If those people are allowed to have their way, a woman will have NO legal options for terminating a pregnancy. The decision will be completely removed from woman and her doctors. This hypocritical attitude is from people who otherwise claim to desire small government and increased personal freedom. I don’t understand why every woman in the USA does not make clear to the men in their life that reproductive freedom is the foundation of their personal freedom. If women can be forced to bear children due to intrusive government regulations, even in the case of rape or incest, their personal freedom of choice has been severely limited. We are already well on the way there in many states. “PERSONAL interference in this most private of matters” is in reference to the scumbags who picket at women’s health centers and interfere with legal medical procedures. Nosy bastards should mind their own business and let people lead their lives in freedom and dignity. Your religious beliefs have ZERO to do with how my sisters, daughters, wife or girlfriend may conduct their lives. Keep your ancient superstitions out of our lives. Freedom OF religion also comes with freedom FROM religion. Keep it to yourself and we'll all get along fine. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,465 #34 February 16, 2011 QuoteA law under consideration in South Dakota would expand the definition of "justifiable homicide" to include killings that are intended to prevent harm to a fetus—a move that could make it legal to kill doctors who perform abortions. A fine example of the People of Peace (tm)!!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
virgin-burner 1 #35 February 16, 2011 Quote Quote Less killing a child, and more preventing a child from existing. How about starting with more responsible sex practices/habits...or is that too easy? buttsecks for everyone! “Some may never live, but the crazy never die.” -Hunter S. Thompson "No. Try not. Do... or do not. There is no try." -Yoda Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Coreece 190 #36 February 16, 2011 Quote Quote Quote Less killing a child, and more preventing a child from existing. How about starting with more responsible sex practices/habits...or is that too easy? buttsecks for everyone! I love this guy...Your secrets are the true reflection of who you really are... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
virgin-burner 1 #37 February 16, 2011 Quote Quote Quote Quote Less killing a child, and more preventing a child from existing. How about starting with more responsible sex practices/habits...or is that too easy? buttsecks for everyone! I love this guy... ok, i got tears in my eyes now, stop it! “Some may never live, but the crazy never die.” -Hunter S. Thompson "No. Try not. Do... or do not. There is no try." -Yoda Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
regulator 0 #38 February 16, 2011 Well I decided to do a google search and determine the number of abortion providers in South Dakota. I thought the list would at least be over ten or so. I was suprised by the end result. And I am aware this is a highly underpopulated state. The Grand total of abortion clinics in North Dakota (at least according to this search feature) =2. http://www.abortion.com/abortion_clinics_state.php?country=United States&state=North Dakota Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
captain1976 0 #39 February 16, 2011 QuoteQuoteJust think of how many children will be saved for each abortionists killed. I support the bill. Are you saying you're against the killing of children but for the killing of abortionists? If so, kind of hypocritical. Hypocritical in that I do justify some types of killing yes, especially when that killing means many others can live. Kind of like killing Nazi's during WWII actually saved lives, or would you rather the Nazi's lived on to murder millions more because any kind of killing is wrong?You live more in the few minutes of skydiving than many people live in their lifetime Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
virgin-burner 1 #40 February 16, 2011 QuoteQuoteQuoteJust think of how many children will be saved for each abortionists killed. I support the bill. Are you saying you're against the killing of children but for the killing of abortionists? If so, kind of hypocritical. Hypocritical in that I do justify some types of killing yes, especially when that killing means many others can live. Kind of like killing Nazi's actually saved lives, or would you rather the Nazi's live on because any kind of killing is wrong? they used to have a word for that: "endlösung"; by your words, you're not worth anymore than them..“Some may never live, but the crazy never die.” -Hunter S. Thompson "No. Try not. Do... or do not. There is no try." -Yoda Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kennedy 0 #41 February 16, 2011 VB, have you met Mr. Godwin? He's Murphy's little brother. You lose.witty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1* Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
virgin-burner 1 #42 February 16, 2011 i know godwin's law, and i only talked after what mr. captain had to say, and followed his footsteps, or logic if you want; if you have to say something, you better direct it at him. i'm just fed up with this bullshit arguments that no sane person would ever allow. so please allow me to rub the little stinky balls of shit that some posters like to leave on the carpet in their face. BTW, if you have a problem with me, that's fine, but going after threads i post in to just attack me.. well, mr. educated, that's very immature and you're just being a little nasty boy that wants a sweet that mommy aint willing to give. go to your room, now! “Some may never live, but the crazy never die.” -Hunter S. Thompson "No. Try not. Do... or do not. There is no try." -Yoda Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
virgin-burner 1 #43 February 16, 2011 Quote VB, have you met Mr. Godwin? He's Murphy's little brother. You lose. BTW, murphy's law originated 1949, while godwin is so 90's.. i think that is the only point you're spot on, while they may be not related, and only have "law" as a second name in common.. i still think you loose. you have two options now, either you go to your room, or you're only going to kindergarten for the next two weeks, and nowhere else. “Some may never live, but the crazy never die.” -Hunter S. Thompson "No. Try not. Do... or do not. There is no try." -Yoda Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
regulator 0 #44 February 16, 2011 I'll go to my room...but only if you sister accompanies me wearing a bikini. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
virgin-burner 1 #45 February 17, 2011 you leave my sister alone; she's already married to our cousin! “Some may never live, but the crazy never die.” -Hunter S. Thompson "No. Try not. Do... or do not. There is no try." -Yoda Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #46 February 17, 2011 QuoteIs it possible for you to post without resorting to childish name calling. You make such good points to be hidden behind the vitriolic rhetoric QuoteQuoteI have a real problem with the word "provide" Of course you do..... next time yall go on a rant about welfare.... for ANYONE... I will be sure to remind all the PRO LIFER buttstains who it is that Is really the LEAST PRO LIFE. PRO-LIFE= PRO WAR Pro supporting the soldiers that fought PRO-LIFE=DEATH PENALTY PROPONENT appropriate sentencing up to and including capital PRO-LIFE=PRO-STARVATION of the masses-just don't get this one PRO-LIFE= UNWILLING to pay for any childrens welfare or their families-You don't want to know what I spend on coats, shoes, food, school supplies etc every year and I don't have kids and the list goes on and on and on and on.-yes it does BULLSHIOT A thread like this deserves just that kind of response.. So we get it you and your ILK are PRO DEATH in most things...we get it. Now if YOU could just man up and be honest with the rest of us that you are PRO DEATH At least that shit stain in SD is honest.. I wonder if someone could remove him from the GENE POOL as justifiable homicide for his wish to murder other human beings. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 221 #47 February 17, 2011 Quotethats fucked up dude.... Not really. I can totally understand the killing of a person that wrongs other people as opposed to on that has harmed no one and never would have the chance to. Which do you think deserves it more?I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #48 February 17, 2011 QuoteQuotethats fucked up dude.... Not really. I can totally understand the killing of a person that wrongs other people as opposed to on that has harmed no one and never would have the chance to. Which do you think deserves it more? Shall we take a poll of all the women from Dropzone.com on this??? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 221 #49 February 17, 2011 QuoteQuote Just think of how many children will be saved for each abortionists killed. I support the bill. That's all the world needs, more children... Is that REALLY what you want? What is wanted is personal responsibility and personal accountability. Are you against that?I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 221 #50 February 17, 2011 QuoteQuoteQuotethats fucked up dude.... Not really. I can totally understand the killing of a person that wrongs other people as opposed to on that has harmed no one and never would have the chance to. Which do you think deserves it more? Shall we take a poll of all the women from Dropzone.com on this??? That depends on wether or not you consider what other people think, even if it differ from what you believe should then be your base line. Are you willing to do that?I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
