South Dakota moves to legalize killing abortion providers

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Just think of how many children will be saved for each abortionists killed. I support the bill.

That's all the world needs, more children...

Is that REALLY what you want?

What is wanted is personal responsibility and personal accountability.

Are you against that?

I thought you were a staunch proponent that all is fair in getitng laid

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True - but doing it responibly is the key.

Vasectomy, Condoms, Birth Control . . . personal Resposibility.

I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama
BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun

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I think abortion ought to be retroactive in some cases....

Going off on a tangent, I would not mind if time travel became possible, to send doctors back in time and force abortions on the fetuses that grew up to be the worst assholes in history - Hitler, Saddam, Kim Jong Il, Idi Amin, Jeffrey Dahmer, Charles Manson, Osama Bin Laden, etc... see where I'm going with this?

"Mediocre people don't like high achievers, and high achievers don't like mediocre people." - SIX TIME National Champion coach Nick Saban

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I think abortion ought to be retroactive in some cases....

Going off on a tangent, I would not mind if time travel became possible, to send doctors back in time and force abortions on the fetuses that grew up to be the worst assholes in history - Hitler, Saddam, Kim Jong Il, Idi Amin, Jeffrey Dahmer, Charles Manson, Osama Bin Laden, etc... see where I'm going with this?

My policy of keeping abortion safe and legal until the fetus can vote.

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Vasectomy, Condoms, Birth Control . . . personal Resposibility.

Apparently you missed all the tens of thousands of posts, articles and doctrine out there that demonstrates that all these methods are only so effective and that unwanted pregnancies still happen despite all the 'personal responsibility' you might want to force upon the population.

Then you want to 'force' them to have and raise that unwanted child.

Doctors and women are the only two people that should be deciding any part of this discussion and everyone else should just shut the fuck up about it.

'person responsibility' versus a 'free country'

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What is wanted is personal responsibility and personal accountability.

Are you against that?

Nope. For it entirely.
What's not wanted is taking that responsibility and accountability out of the hands of the people directly involved.

My reality and yours are quite different.
I think we're all Bozos on this bus.
Falcon5232, SCS8170, SCSA353, POPS9398, DS239

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Now if YOU could just man up and be honest with the rest of us that you are PRO DEATH

They way I would define it-yes. the way you would distort it-no.

I'm pro accountability. That's why I'm not typing paragraphs of internet rants about being fined for speeding when i was, in fact, speeding. When I'm caught, I just pay the fine. It was wrong, I know it, I took a chance and lost. ACCOUNTABILITY. I know that's a scary concept for you and your ILK (love that, never knew I had ilk before) but it's the way things should work and the fact that too many people are unwilling to accept responsibility and personal accountability has become a problem. Nobody owes you crap. Plenty of people are willing to help people that are down-help, not support.

You are only as strong as the prey you devour

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Now if YOU could just man up and be honest with the rest of us that you are PRO DEATH

They way I would define it-yes. the way you would distort it-no.

I'm pro accountability. That's why I'm not typing paragraphs of internet rants about being fined for speeding when i was, in fact, speeding. When I'm caught, I just pay the fine. It was wrong, I know it, I took a chance and lost. ACCOUNTABILITY. I know that's a scary concept for you and your ILK (love that, never knew I had ilk before) but it's the way things should work and the fact that too many people are unwilling to accept responsibility and personal accountability has become a problem. Nobody owes you crap. Plenty of people are willing to help people that are down-help, not support.

I love it...

You and your ILK can't get over the fact that FREEDOM.. means a very simple concept that YOUR rights end at the tip of your nose.... and further than that YOU are intruding on the rights of others...

That stinks to high heaven of CONTROL FREAK.. forcing OTHERS to live by your religious rules... oh wait.. that is the definition of the religious wrong in this country.

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And what are her rights and where do they end? Lets just pick a non-human sounding word for a convicted murder that we can use to dehumanize them. Then will you and you 'ilk' be ok with with wholesale slaughter in the prison system?

You are only as strong as the prey you devour

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Ok so I'll admit I don't know shit about abortion....I personally don't have any kids. So what period of time is it OK to terminate a pregnancy and when is it too far evolved to proceed? Would... say a law that prohibits any abortions AFTER the first trimester still be too much? I think that there should be a choice until that time period and if you havent made up your fucking mind by then you need to have it and give it up for adoption to someone who will care for it the way the child needs to be cared for. Just my two cents.

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And what are her rights and where do they end? Lets just pick a non-human sounding word for a convicted murder that we can use to dehumanize them. Then will you and you 'ilk' be ok with with wholesale slaughter in the prison system?

Ah yes the RED HERRING of late term abortions... try again...

Face it those of you on the FRINGER RELIGIOUS WRONG don't even want a woman to be able to get ANY help terminating even with the morning after pill.

Hell MOST of the RELIGIOUS WRONG would be good with NO birth control at all since it goes against GODS will that all of yall should be FRUITFULL

I am pretty sure that with a world population at 6.9 BILLION humans... the human species has been fruitfull enough.


PEOPLE.. and MEN in particular need to stay the hell out of womens rights to determine when and if a child will be brought into this world to be loved and nurtured.

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Don't sweat it-I was more trying to say that we are carrying our own biases. I've seen several posters screaming against the death penalty but them screaming for abortion. Who defines a person, courts don't agree-Doctors don't agree-yet somehow it's evil to remove a proven danger to society but OK to dismember a kid because someone who couldn't keep their clothes on or use readily available contraception can't be bothered with the inconvenience of a child. Once again-I can't be held responsible for my actions-please take care of me. It's not like there aren't adults out there would love to have a child but can't who don't feel capable of raising a crack kid or infant alcohol baby.

You are only as strong as the prey you devour

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Ah yes the RED HERRING

Nope-convenient photo. So that we can be very clear. I am against any and all non medically mandated abortions. Each, all, every. And if you're trying to justify killing a kid sometime in your past-I can't help that, call a therapist.

You are only as strong as the prey you devour

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Ah yes the RED HERRING

Nope-convenient photo. So that we can be very clear. I am against any and all non medically mandated abortions. Each, all, every. And if you're trying to justify killing a kid sometime in your past-I can't help that, call a therapist.

COOOOL Rapists love those kinds of laws based on the way things were thousands of years ago... IF he can get his penis in any vagina.. SHE has to have HIS CHILD...

Now there is a law a caveman can love.

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Legalizing the killing of anyone is unconstitutional for the simple reason that it deprives a citizen his/her rights to due process under the law. Due process is something we've even accorded to the likes of Charles Manson. To permit the killing of law abiding citizens who engage in a lawful practice that is protected by an entire body of case law is a blatant violation of their civil rights.

Time to send in the FBI.

Your humble servant.....Professor Gravity !

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Vasectomy, Condoms, Birth Control . . . personal Resposibility.

Apparently you missed all the tens of thousands of posts, articles and doctrine out there that demonstrates that all these methods are only so effective and that unwanted pregnancies still happen despite all the 'personal responsibility' you might want to force upon the population.

Then you want to 'force' them to have and raise that unwanted child.

Doctors and women are the only two people that should be deciding any part of this discussion and everyone else should just shut the fuck up about it.

'person responsibility' versus a 'free country'

Then they shouldn't have fucked, should they? Personal Responsibility - you should try it, instead of killing people to cover your mistakes.

I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama
BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun

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Then they shouldn't have fucked, should they? Personal Responsibility - you should try it, instead of killing people to cover your mistakes.

They can fuck whenever they want - not only is it their right, it's also perfectly natural. Personal FREEDOM - you should try it.

Get the fuck out of my bedroom. And get the fuck out of my doctor's office - asshole.

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Then they shouldn't have fucked, should they? Personal Responsibility - you should try it, instead of killing people to cover your mistakes.

They can fuck whenever they want - not only is it their right, it's also perfectly natural. Personal FREEDOM - you should try it.

Get the fuck out of my bedroom. And get the fuck out of my doctor's office - asshole.

What did you call me?

How childish are you going to be?

Next I expect "Neener Neener" or "Nanny Nanny Boo Boo" to come out of you.

As long as you are OK with killing people to fix your mistakes - or condone that action by others, you will not have respect.

I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama
BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun

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Then they shouldn't have fucked, should they? Personal Responsibility - you should try it, instead of killing people to cover your mistakes.

They can fuck whenever they want - not only is it their right, it's also perfectly natural. Personal FREEDOM - you should try it.

Get the fuck out of my bedroom. And get the fuck out of my doctor's office - asshole.

What did you call me?

How childish are you going to be?

Next I expect "Neener Neener" or "Nanny Nanny Boo Boo" to come out of you.

As long as you are OK with killing people to fix your mistakes - or condone that action by others, you will not have respect.

I think more women need to read these threads.. to understand just who it is they are potentially dating... and act accordingly.

Any man that would FORCE a woman to bear HIS child under ALL circumstances should NEVER get another date in his fucking life.

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Then they shouldn't have fucked, should they? Personal Responsibility - you should try it, instead of killing people to cover your mistakes.

They can fuck whenever they want - not only is it their right, it's also perfectly natural. Personal FREEDOM - you should try it.

Get the fuck out of my bedroom. And get the fuck out of my doctor's office - asshole.

What did you call me?

How childish are you going to be?

Next I expect "Neener Neener" or "Nanny Nanny Boo Boo" to come out of you.

As long as you are OK with killing people to fix your mistakes - or condone that action by others, you will not have respect.

I think more women need to read these threads.. to understand just who it is they are potentially dating... and act accordingly.

Any man that would FORCE a woman to bear HIS child under ALL circumstances should NEVER get another date in his fucking life.

Your opinion is just as valid as mine.
And you are an extremist.

I am glad that you are living well with the premise that it is OK to kill another human to cover for mistakes in judgement. That is your right to believe that way. Just as it is mine to believe differently.

It is, indeed, too bad you can't read another's point of view without becoming overwhelmed with un-needed extreme emotions into it.

Sad, very sad.

I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama
BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun

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And I see that your ULTIMATE desire to opress a woman because she fucked up and slept with someone who is SOOO controlling of anothers life that he would force her into HIS concept of what her life should be.

That is a true conservative opinion... dating back thousands and thousands of years. Today.. we call that something else.

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And you are an extremist.

(I am against any and all non medically mandated abortions. Each, all, every...)

How's that for extreme?
But you didn't comment on that. Why? Because it goes along with your punish-the-women agenda?

My reality and yours are quite different.
I think we're all Bozos on this bus.
Falcon5232, SCS8170, SCSA353, POPS9398, DS239

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And I see that your ULTIMATE desire to opress a woman because she fucked up and slept with someone who is SOOO controlling of anothers life that he would force her into HIS concept of what her life should be.

That is a true conservative opinion... dating back thousands and thousands of years. Today.. we call that something else.

Nope - my ULTIMATE desire is to prevent murder of somone that has not done anything but be in the wrong womb.

You say that the criminal justice system is so wrong for accidentally convicting the wrong person and putting them to death. Yet you advocate killing innocents because of someone ELSE's mistake. Ther lis some stellar logic for you . . . the logic of inconvience = death to whomever is in the way. Nice.

I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama
BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun

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And you are an extremist.

(I am against any and all non medically mandated abortions. Each, all, every...)

How's that for extreme?
But you didn't comment on that. Why? Because it goes along with your punish-the-women agenda?

Nope. Generally speaking, you can communicate without your emotions being the driving force behind your thinking. You and I and others can have a conversation like humans should.

I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama
BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun

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Then they shouldn't have fucked, should they? Personal Responsibility - you should try it, instead of killing people to cover your mistakes.

Give it up Turtle. You guy's statements about responsibility and accountability do not ring true.

You guys don't want anyone to take responsibility nor have them be accountable. Your posts all ring of wanting to take that responsibility and accountability into your own hands.

"YOU got pregnant? Then I'm gonna take your responsibility out of your hands and tell you what to do about it. I'm gonna see that you are held accountable by making YOU take it to term. I don't care what you do after that. Just do it."

Somehow that just doesn't sit right.

Geez....one of these days somebody's going to get the idea that "responsibility" also includes neutering the male because he made the "mistake of fucking".
Would you agree to that?

The lady wants to fuck? She takes responsibility for the outcome? You don't agree with her decision? So you TELL her, by law, what you want done?
I don't get the logic.

My reality and yours are quite different.
I think we're all Bozos on this bus.
Falcon5232, SCS8170, SCSA353, POPS9398, DS239