dreamdancer 0 #151 February 19, 2011 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuote Christianity is passed from parenting or through social pressures and not through a sudden enlightenment... Not in my experience. My belief came suddenly and completely. but your culture's religion is christianity - why not a sudden belief in allah? I had a sudden belief in buhdda, and then a sudden belief in no God, but I could only lie to myself for so long. and your next sudden belief will be... mayflies? No, that dark matter is YOUR God. there is no god - use the brain that evolution has given you instead...stay away from moving propellers - they bite blue skies from thai sky adventures good solid response-provoking keyboarding Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Coreece 190 #152 February 19, 2011 Quotei didn't mention that i'm an atheist as i'm a nice guy and just keep that sort of thing to debating forums. In other words, "I'm a coward that won't disclose my beliefs in fear of the stigma of denying something so inherant that it may expose me as the masterful lying genius that I am."Your secrets are the true reflection of who you really are... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RonD1120 62 #153 February 19, 2011 Quote now the threats eh? No way. Good luck. Luck is a respecter of persons for not everyone has good. God's love is "Agape."Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dreamdancer 0 #154 February 19, 2011 Quote Quote i didn't mention that i'm an atheist as i'm a nice guy and just keep that sort of thing to debating forums. In other words, "I'm a coward that won't disclose my beliefs in fear of the stigma of denying something so inherant that it may expose me as the masterful lying genius that I am." no, as in - i'm a nice guy and they were a nice couple (she's just completed her aff and he's a free burma ranger) and i didn't mind them bringing god bless you etc... up a few times. no need to confront them with my own atheism - happy to debate it here with those who want to stay away from moving propellers - they bite blue skies from thai sky adventures good solid response-provoking keyboarding Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dreamdancer 0 #155 February 19, 2011 Quote Quote now the threats eh? No way. Good luck. and you stay away from moving propellers - they bite blue skies from thai sky adventures good solid response-provoking keyboarding Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Coreece 190 #156 February 19, 2011 Quote Quote Quote i didn't mention that i'm an atheist as i'm a nice guy and just keep that sort of thing to debating forums. In other words, "I'm a coward that won't disclose my beliefs in fear of the stigma of denying something so inherant that it may expose me as the masterful lying genius that I am." no, as in - i'm a nice guy and they were a nice couple (she's just completed her aff and he's a free burma ranger) and i didn't mind them bringing god bless you etc... up a few times. no need to confront them with my own atheism - happy to debate it here with those who want to Very well, just don't blame me if I remain somewhat skeptical to your sudden and peculiar benevolence...have a great day Kevin.Your secrets are the true reflection of who you really are... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,559 #157 February 19, 2011 QuoteYou obviously think when someone mentions "spoke with God" that there must be some auditory transference of information. That's not Ron's meaning, I'm sure. No. When someone talks of having spoken with God, it's usually a metaphor, with Ron it's not. That is why I made sure I was very clear in pointing out that Ron describes actually, literally, hearing the Voice of God, speaking to him with actual words. Not just having a moment of clarity. Not just having a revalation. Actually being spoken to. Is that enough edumacation for you, or do you want to have another go at being a patronising twat?Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,559 #158 February 19, 2011 Quote Why are some of the self proclaimed atheists &/or agnostics...so hellbent & spiteful towards believers who are not bashful, nor intimidated to speak out about it ? Because you have a biased view of the subject. Atheists who say religion is wrong are hellbent and spiteful, yet religious people who thnks atheists are wrong are simply 'not intimidated'? Your perception is severely skewed - especially given the overwhelmingly religious nature of the county you live in. Why on earth would any believer be too intimidated to speak out when they comprise the overwhelming majority of the population and those in power? The shoe might just be on the other foot there. Quote Having a difference of opinion or debating issues & beliefs is one thing...but rude off the wall, lowlife comments is disgusting ! Some respond as if they are in fear....kind of like me thinks you protest too much ! Unsure Shame on the assholes...grow the hell up So that was you being 'not bashful', was it?Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,559 #159 February 19, 2011 QuoteQuotei didn't mention that i'm an atheist as i'm a nice guy and just keep that sort of thing to debating forums. In other words, "I'm a coward that won't disclose my beliefs in fear of the stigma of denying something so inherant that it may expose me as the masterful lying genius that I am." Ok, so stating religion is wrong is offensive, but not going around actively declaring your atheism to all and sundry is cowardly.... and being an atheist demonstrates that you are fundamentally a liar? And you have the balls to bitch about people insulting your religion!?Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #160 February 19, 2011 Here we are again The religion of no relgion arguing the religion of religionNeither side is any different And both are the same "America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
popsjumper 2 #161 February 19, 2011 *WHOOSH* Quote No. When someone talks of having spoken with God, it's usually a metaphor, with Ron it's not. Bless your little heart...you do mind reading, too.! Quote That is why I made sure I was very clear in pointing out that Ron describes actually, literally, hearing the Voice of God, speaking to him with actual words. Not just having a moment of clarity. Not just having a revalation. Actually being spoken to. Bless your little heart...you do mind reading, too.! Quote Is that enough edumacation for you, or do you want to have another go at being a patronising twat? Bless your little heart...you do mind reading, too.! (How's that for patronizing? You might do well to wait for him to reply rather than tell us what you think know he said. Who knows, maybe both of us are wrong and he meant something else entirely. Bringing up twats is misdirection. Twats are handled in one of the BF threads. My reality and yours are quite different. I think we're all Bozos on this bus. Falcon5232, SCS8170, SCSA353, POPS9398, DS239 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
popsjumper 2 #162 February 19, 2011 QuoteWhy are some of the self proclaimed atheists &/or agnostics...so hellbent & spiteful towards believers who are not bashful, nor intimidated to speak out about it ? QuoteBecause you have a biased view of the subject. Oh, now I get it. Because someone has a different viewpoint, that's the cue to be hellbent & spiteful. Ok....I learned something today! QuoteAtheists who say religion is wrong are hellbent and spiteful, ... Just some of them. Quote...yet religious people who thnks atheists are wrong are simply 'not intimidated'? Yes, I think you understand this part. QuoteHaving a difference of opinion or debating issues & beliefs is one thing...but rude off the wall, lowlife comments is disgusting ! QuoteSome respond as if they are in fear.... You don't see yourself here? Ask yourself... Why is it that I let myself get all worked up because somebody believes differently than I do when it comes to religion? Why is it that I go so far out of my way to be rude and childish in my rebuttals? I did notice that you dodged the Dark Matter reference, though. Science? Unproven beliefs?My reality and yours are quite different. I think we're all Bozos on this bus. Falcon5232, SCS8170, SCSA353, POPS9398, DS239 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,559 #163 February 19, 2011 QuoteBless your little heart...you do mind reading, too.! I don't need to read minds, I know how to read words. Ron has, in previous threads, been very clear about the circumstances of his conversion. Maybe you need to have things drummed into your skull multiple times before you can understand them, but some of us are a little quicker on the uptake. QuoteHow's that for patronizing? Terrible. If you're so limited you can't even think up three different lines you mioght need to admit that continuing this discussion is beyond your capabilities. Now why don't run along and practise? The kids in the local playground should be around your level.Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,559 #164 February 19, 2011 Y'know, I was only playing your game just now, but unless that last post was based on a deliberate misinterpretation then you really do have some remedial comprehension work to do, and it really is at grade school level.Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skygypsie 2 #165 February 19, 2011 I have never voiced my view against athetists, nor agnostics, nor Jews, Buddahists, Muslims, cat worshipers, Bible thumpers, born agains, Christians... ! I've only made inference of what my 'religious' experiences have been ! For the record I do NOT consider myself RELIGIOUS ! I have never made comment to who I think is right or wrong...I've only stated I am a BELIEVER in MY God ! You've been to Fond du Lac County, WI...much have you ? The only church service I've been to since I relocated to this area 5 years ago, was a recent funeral for my husband's uncle ! I've pretty much been a nonconformist to the average norm, for years...for no other reason than, I do & particpate in what works for me ! I made a statement to some 'assholes' as to my confusion, why some enjoy chastizing & ridiculing what some do state, or believe. I made no direct inference to anyone in particular, but seeing that you jumped to respond...obviously you tried the shoe on ! I've never had a tendency to be bashful about anything...so now what BTW: Fond du Lac County has a history of rednecks, bootleggers & outlaws (i.e. Carrie Nation, Dillinger, Capone, Fatty Arbuckle & KKK), though I'm sure there are some very nice atheists, agnostics, & Christians, here! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 226 #166 February 19, 2011 QuoteQuoteQuote your next belief will be? That you should put your head down in high gear and accelerate. The hell bound train is no fun if you're going slow. now the threats eh? Again, we have to educate you, a futile effort, but we try. The difference between a threat and a belief. Look it up. That is your homework for this week.I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RonD1120 62 #167 February 19, 2011 Quote You might do well to wait for him to reply rather than tell us what you think know he said. Who knows, maybe both of us are wrong and he meant something else entirely. OK, let me set the record straight. 16 Mar 81: The Holy Spirit said to me, "Why don't you try Jesus? You've tried everything else." I asked Jesus to come into my life, my heart and take control. I surrendered completely and was saved with the convincing epiphany. Early Apr 83: Asked for and received the Baptism of the Holy Spirit. No verbal communication in this instance. Later Apr 83: I asked the Lord in prayer why I could not smoke marijuana and study the Bible. The Lord's audible reply, echoed three times, "Because it irritates Me." I was instantly and completely delivered from the desire to use mood altering substances including alcohol and nicotine. I am approaching 28 years straight, clean and sober.Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,559 #168 February 19, 2011 Boom.Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #169 February 20, 2011 QuoteY'know, I was only playing your game just now, but unless that last post was based on a deliberate misinterpretation then you really do have some remedial comprehension work to do, and it really is at grade school level. Damn man It sucks when someone throws your own shit tactics back in your face huh......"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dreamdancer 0 #170 February 20, 2011 Quote Quote Quote Quote i didn't mention that i'm an atheist as i'm a nice guy and just keep that sort of thing to debating forums. In other words, "I'm a coward that won't disclose my beliefs in fear of the stigma of denying something so inherant that it may expose me as the masterful lying genius that I am." no, as in - i'm a nice guy and they were a nice couple (she's just completed her aff and he's a free burma ranger) and i didn't mind them bringing god bless you etc... up a few times. no need to confront them with my own atheism - happy to debate it here with those who want to Very well, just don't blame me if I remain somewhat skeptical to your sudden and peculiar benevolence... always been that way... (wonder what peculiar belief you're going to take up next)stay away from moving propellers - they bite blue skies from thai sky adventures good solid response-provoking keyboarding Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dreamdancer 0 #171 February 20, 2011 QuoteQuote You might do well to wait for him to reply rather than tell us what you think know he said. Who knows, maybe both of us are wrong and he meant something else entirely. OK, let me set the record straight. 16 Mar 81: The Holy Spirit said to me, "Why don't you try Jesus? You've tried everything else.". so, an unidentified voice in your head - nextstay away from moving propellers - they bite blue skies from thai sky adventures good solid response-provoking keyboarding Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dreamdancer 0 #172 February 20, 2011 QuoteI made a statement to some 'assholes'! gotta stop looking in that mirror if you don't like what you see...stay away from moving propellers - they bite blue skies from thai sky adventures good solid response-provoking keyboarding Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RonD1120 62 #173 February 20, 2011 Quote - next VICTORY! Victory in Jesus. 2 Corinthians 2:14 But thanks be to God, who always leads us in triumph in Christ, and manifests through us the sweet aroma of the knowledge of Him in every place.Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Coreece 190 #174 February 20, 2011 Quotewonder what peculiar belief you're going to take up next I dunno, but I reckon I'd have to be pretty skilled in self deception to become an Atheist again.Your secrets are the true reflection of who you really are... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dreamdancer 0 #175 February 20, 2011 QuoteQuotewonder what peculiar belief you're going to take up next I dunno, but I reckon I'd have to be pretty skilled in self deception to become an Atheist again. if you can't face the truth - keep that crutch...stay away from moving propellers - they bite blue skies from thai sky adventures good solid response-provoking keyboarding Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
