dreamdancer 0 #1 February 21, 2011 a truly dangerous drug... QuoteUp to 250,000 people could die because of alcohol over the next 20 years unless ministers take strong action to tackle Britain's chronic drink problems, leading doctors are warning. The prediction comes in edition of the Lancet medical journal by three senior experts on alcohol, two of whom are advising the coalition on how to reduce drink-related harm. In a scathing critique of the government's approach to alcohol, the trio accuse ministers of pursuing policies that will make no difference to the soaring rates of drink-related liver disease. Ministers, including the health secretary, Andrew Lansley, are "too close" to the drinks industry and too reluctant to take effective steps, they say. They welcome the government's decision to continue raising the cost of drink at 2% above inflation. However, "plans to ban the sale of alcohol beverages below cost (duty plus VAT) and to increase duty on beer over 7.5% strength are inconsequential because of the tiny fraction of sales that fall into either category", write Dr Nick Sheron, Professor Ian Gilmore and Professor Chris Hawkey. "These policies suggest that the government remains too close to the industry and lacks clear aspiration to reduce the impact of cheap, readily available, and heavily marketed alcohol on individuals and on society," they write. http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2011/feb/21/drink-deaths-250000-lives-2031stay away from moving propellers - they bite blue skies from thai sky adventures good solid response-provoking keyboarding Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #2 February 21, 2011 Come on.. you guys need the space... its a wee island... with way too many peopleHeck... hand out more Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skybill 22 #3 February 21, 2011 Hi D-D, That might be mighty fine in Sarah Brady Country, but this is "Red Neck Country!!" Remember,"CASE OF BEER!!" yelled out loud for an SCR, A-License or just about anything!! How about everyone's ranting about,"Beer Rules!!" This is Skydiving!! Beer and Booze are part of it. If ya' wanna dry up the sport, go lookin' for another sport to dry up!! Meanwhile, why yes I will have another Bud Lite, Beck or Falstaff, Jax or Regal and what ever you do, Don't Forget the "DIXIE!!"SCR-2034, SCS-680 III%, Deli-out Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dreamdancer 0 #4 February 21, 2011 we have beer rules here too - but i get a case of fanta/pepsi instead (last one for landing outside the packing shed). remember not everyone drinks stay away from moving propellers - they bite blue skies from thai sky adventures good solid response-provoking keyboarding Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Meso 38 #5 February 21, 2011 And thank god for that. I've spent most of my past 6 years at punk shows, where nihilism, drugs and alcohol are pretty much mandatory. But I haven't touched alcohol since 2004. But I also would rather grab a coke or fanta instead. This also saves me a lot of money, as you only need 1 or 2 when you're out. Apparently people have this insane idea that because the government legalizes something, that it must be less dangerous than that which is made illegal. People somehow, despite the blatant evidence and studies- seem to think that alcohol isn't dangerous. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
loumeinhart 0 #6 February 21, 2011 Quotebut i get a case of fanta/pepsi instead That's awesome, would that apply to saves as well? A liter o' cola for a clean reserve deployment. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RonD1120 62 #7 February 21, 2011 Quotea truly dangerous drug... Ephesians 5:18 And do not get drunk with wine, for that is dissipation, but be filled with the Spirit, (Holy) Proverbs 23: 29Who has woe? Who has sorrow? Who has contentions? Who has complaining? Who has wounds without cause? Who has redness of eyes? 30Those who linger long over wine, Those who go to taste mixed wine. 31Do not look on the wine when it is red, When it sparkles in the cup, When it goes down smoothly; 32At the last it bites like a serpent And stings like a viper. 33Your eyes will see strange things And your mind will utter perverse things. 34And you will be like one who lies down in the middle of the sea, Or like one who lies down on the top of a mast. 35"They struck me, but I did not become ill; They beat me, but I did not know it When shall I awake? I will seek another drink." Jesus Christ delivered me from this bondage and set me free. He will do it for others.Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jimmytavino 16 #8 February 21, 2011 Quote Quote but i get a case of fanta/pepsi instead That's awesome, would that apply to saves as well? A liter o' cola for a clean reserve deployment. my rigger prefers root beer. and so,,, i got him 4 different, assorted, 6 packs,, when his packjob saved me... he was sooo happy he wanted me to have another Mal... as soon as possible....jt Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lawrocket 3 #9 February 21, 2011 QuoteBut I also would rather grab a coke Diabetes and Osteoporosis in a can! My wife is hotter than your wife. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
remibond 0 #10 February 21, 2011 In fairness that's only what, 12,500 extra per year. Hardly a population devastating amount. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Butters 0 #11 February 21, 2011 QuoteJesus Christ delivered me from this bondage and set me free. He will do it for others. Did he do it right after turning water into wine?"That looks dangerous." Leopold Stotch Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RonD1120 62 #12 February 21, 2011 QuoteQuoteJesus Christ delivered me from this bondage and set me free. He will do it for others. Did he do it right after turning water into wine? No, He did it a little over 2K years later.Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
winsor 236 #13 February 21, 2011 QuoteQuotea truly dangerous drug... Ephesians 5:18 And do not get drunk with wine, for that is dissipation, but be filled with the Spirit, (Holy) Proverbs 23: 29Who has woe? Who has sorrow? Who has contentions? Who has complaining? Who has wounds without cause? Who has redness of eyes? 30Those who linger long over wine, Those who go to taste mixed wine. 31Do not look on the wine when it is red, When it sparkles in the cup, When it goes down smoothly; 32At the last it bites like a serpent And stings like a viper. 33Your eyes will see strange things And your mind will utter perverse things. 34And you will be like one who lies down in the middle of the sea, Or like one who lies down on the top of a mast. 35"They struck me, but I did not become ill; They beat me, but I did not know it When shall I awake? I will seek another drink." Jesus Christ delivered me from this bondage and set me free. He will do it for others. If you get clean and attribute it to the Flying Spaghetti Monster, that does not "prove" the "truth" of the FSM. I have not touched a thing since Reagan was president. Do I get to claim whatever nonsensical fantasy I choose on that basis? FWIW, there is precisely zero chance that Cousin Jesus knowingly had anything directly to do with your sobriety. As far as dealing with the ingestive disorder goes, congrats (so far - your misery can be cheerfully refunded at any time...). BSBD, Winsor Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RonD1120 62 #14 February 22, 2011 Quote FWIW, there is precisely zero chance that Cousin Jesus knowingly had anything directly to do with your sobriety. You gave me the same response about 10 years ago on rec.skydiving. The only thing that has changed is that I have 10 more years of sobriety. Quote As far as dealing with the ingestive disorder goes, congrats (so far - your misery can be cheerfully refunded at any time...). How true. As the old saying goes, "One drink is too many and a thousand is not enough." Blue Skies, Eternal Life Assurance in Christ RonLook for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jclalor 12 #15 February 22, 2011 Ron, I went 12 years with out a drink..... then I turned 13. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RonD1120 62 #16 February 22, 2011 Quote Ron, I went 12 years with out a drink..... then I turned 13. I haven't heard that one in a long time. Here's a challenge. If you drink regularly but do not consider yourself as having a problem, try going without alcohol for one year.Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 226 #17 February 22, 2011 Quote Quote Ron, I went 12 years with out a drink..... then I turned 13. I haven't heard that one in a long time. Here's a challenge. If you drink regularly but do not consider yourself as having a problem, try going without alcohol for one year. If it is something you enjoy, but don't have a problem, why do without? Q: Do you drink? A: Every once in a while, generally at the dropzone after jumping on the weekends. Conclusion - You are an alcoholic Response - No I'm not - Rebuttle - You are in denial. Response - No I'm not - Rebuttle - See, yes you are. It reminds me of this scene from anger management.I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #18 February 22, 2011 I got to 15 years old.. found the liquer cabinet open one weekend when the parental units were out of town... and proceeded to drink about 1/3 a bottle of Southen Comfort. I got violently ill and to this day I cant stand the reek of Southern Comfort. That has stood me in good stead the rest of my life... I very very rarely drink and I think I can count on my fingers the number of times in my life I have been drunk since. Funny thing is.. I was going to a parochial school at the time... and I had no religious experience to convince me that drinking was not the thing for me... even while I was there worshipping that porcelain goddess all night. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jclalor 12 #19 February 22, 2011 Quote Quote Quote Ron, I went 12 years with out a drink..... then I turned 13. I haven't heard that one in a long time. Here's a challenge. If you drink regularly but do not consider yourself as having a problem, try going without alcohol for one year. My problem was never booze, it was mostly of the powered variety. I attended a popular 12 step program for a while, but could not get over step... what ever the one about the higher power was. I have been powder free for 20 years. I still drink, perhaps 2 or three times a year, mostly at the DZ I may have a couple of beers. Being a nurse and working nights and every weekend, I just don't have the chance to drink much. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
happythoughts 0 #20 February 22, 2011 Quote Quote Ron, I went 12 years with out a drink..... then I turned 13. I haven't heard that one in a long time. Here's a challenge. If you drink regularly but do not consider yourself as having a problem, try going without alcohol for one year. You are saying that regular use equates to addiction. There are sex addicts. There are people who regularly enjoy sex. If you have had sex regularly this month, then you should quit for a year, to prove that you are not a sex addict. Thank you for playing the illogic game. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Meso 38 #21 February 22, 2011 My experience was somewhat similar... Except instead of the house it was a skate ramp, instead of the Southern Comfort it was a 750ml bottle of Russian Bear Vodka (cheap as all hell) and instead of 1/3 of a bottle, it was 1/2 a bottle. A night with my head in the toilet at a strangers house where I had landed at 3km away somehow was enough for me to make my mind up about drinking. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ridestrong 1 #22 February 22, 2011 Quote....and to this day I cant stand the reek of Southern Comfort. I was 18 and my buddy's parents were out of town... I had already been smoking bud for a year or so but wanted to try getting drunk. He had a full bottle of SoCo so that was the drink of choice. I had a pint sized drinking glass that I filled with half SoCo and half Coke. I didn't care for the taste of it so I put it down quickly, in 5 min or so. I was used to getting high and being tilted instantly after inhaling... so after a few minutes went by and I didn't feel a thing I was pretty disappointed. I proceeded to fill the pint glass 3/4 full with nothing other than SoCo. I put the glass to my mouth and slammed it. No more than 2 minutes later I was as retarded as Corky from 'Life Goes On'. I vaguely remember falling on the floor, where I woke up 8 hours later face lying in the middle of a 3 foot puddle of my own puke... which I then had to clean up while my head and stomach where still spinning in opposite directions. I didn't drink again until I turned 21... the smell of SoCo still makes me gag.*I am not afraid of dying... I am afraid of missing life.* ----Disclaimer: I don't know shit about skydiving.---- Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #23 February 22, 2011 nothingQuoteQuote....and to this day I cant stand the reek of Southern Comfort. I was 18 and my buddy's parents were out of town... I had already been smoking bud for a year or so but wanted to try getting drunk. He had a full bottle of SoCo so that was the drink of choice. I had a pint sized drinking glass that I filled with half SoCo and half Coke. I didn't care for the taste of it so I put it down quickly, in 5 min or so. I was used to getting high and being tilted instantly after inhaling... so after a few minutes went by and I didn't feel a thing I was pretty disappointed. I proceeded to fill the pint glass 3/4 full with nothing other than SoCo. I put the glass to my mouth and slammed it. No more than 2 minutes later I was as retarded as Corky from 'Life Goes On'. I vaguely remember falling on the floor, where I woke up 8 hours later face lying in the middle of a 3 foot puddle of my own puke... which I then had to clean up while my head and stomach where still spinning in opposite directions. I didn't drink again until I turned 21... the smell of SoCo still makes me gag. BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA Amen to that.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RonD1120 62 #24 February 22, 2011 Quote Here's a challenge. If you drink regularly but do not consider yourself as having a problem, try going without alcohol for one year. If it is something you enjoy, but don't have a problem, why do without? It is simply a personal exercise to evaluate cravings. It is a type of self-help evaluation.Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RonD1120 62 #25 February 22, 2011 Quote Being a nurse and working nights and every weekend, I just don't have the chance to drink much. That'll work. I believe in work therapy.Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
That'll work. I believe in work therapy.
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