Madison Rally Bigger Than Biggest Tea Party Rally

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now for a real party...

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Police estimated up to 100,000 people turned out in Madison, WI yesterday to protest Gov. Scott Walker’s (R) assault on unions, making it bigger than any protests the city has witnessed, even those during the Vietnam War. The Madison rally is part of a much larger Main Street Movement of average Americans demanding fairness in labor laws, social spending, and taxation that has emerged in Ohio, New Jersey, Florida, Michigan, and elsewhere. But yesterday’s rally in Madison is noteworthy because at 85,000-100,000, it was bigger than the biggest tea party protest, the September 12, 2009 rally in Washington, D.C., which turned out only an estimated 60,000-70,000.

http://www.alternet.org/teaparty/150227/madison_rally_bigger_than_biggest_tea_party_rally_/

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More like 85,000 - 100,000 Kremlin agents!

[mnealtx 0]

Duh...

Tea Party protesters came on their own dime and their own time, union protestors got bussed in by the unions, with pay.

As for the September rally... alternet is full of shit as usual.

Mike
I love you, Shannon and Jim.
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Ignorant right wing half wits don't get the difference between corporate led movements (Tea Party) and a real grass roots movements.

Spewing stupid shit about "bussed in by the unions" only makes clear a severe disdain for the truth that RWCs have made an art.

The "reagan revolution" and the RWC movement is all about the glorification of opinionated ignorance, with a heaping helping of disdain for those to whom facts and knowlege matter.

If it was up to RWCs, slavery would still be in effect, women's suffrage would have never happened, and that 3/5th rule would still be in effect.

Shamefully stupid, yet completely unaware.

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Ignorant right wing half wits don't get the difference between corporate led movements (Tea Party) and a real grass roots movements.

Ignorant left wing halfwits (but I repeat myself) don't get the difference between corporate led movements (union protests) and real grass root movements (Tea Party).

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Spewing stupid shit about "bussed in by the unions" only makes clear a severe disdain for the truth that RWCs have made an art.

Whatever you say, bub. Unfortunately for your argument, that's exactly what the unions did.

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Shamefully stupid, yet completely unaware.

We still have hope for you, though.

Mike
I love you, Shannon and Jim.
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A great many of the so called 100,000 were not even from the state of WI. I even know of 5 individual union members from Houston that were travelling up there to show support.

As Walter would say, "Dum ASS" Amazing how one group of people can demand yet another group of people to pay them more, because they think they are entitled.

Obama's Billion dollar campaign fund is in jeopordy , if he can't put a stop to this. With unions promissing 100's of millions in donations, I see Obama getting more involved quitely in the shadows.

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Ignorant right wing half wits don't get the difference between corporate led movements (Tea Party) and a real grass roots movements.

Spewing stupid shit about "bussed in by the unions" only makes clear a severe disdain for the truth that RWCs have made an art.

The "reagan revolution" and the RWC movement is all about the glorification of opinionated ignorance, with a heaping helping of disdain for those to whom facts and knowlege matter.

If it was up to RWCs, slavery would still be in effect, women's suffrage would have never happened, and that 3/5th rule would still be in effect.

Shamefully stupid, yet completely unaware.

Slow your roll kid....
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abraham_Lincoln

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Lincoln was an outspoken opponent of the expansion of slavery in the United States, which he deftly articulated in his campaign debates and speeches.[1] As a result, he secured the Republican nomination and was elected president in 1860.

Oh and women's suffrage? Yeah, you got that one wrong too.... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Women's_suffrage_in_the_United_States

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You're not as good as you think you are. Seriously.

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Dunbfuck Right Wing Conservatives can not tell the difference between a mindset (Right Wing Conservatism, a really destructive and evil way of being) and a once well respected Political Party (Republican) that has totally abandoned their former principles.

Pull your heads out of your asses. Progressive Politics is not the same as the Democratic Party. Conservatism is not the same as Republican Party. Each party has had their original values corrupted and twisted. The Democrats are finally coming back to the realization that the WORKING FOLKS, not the top 1%, are the people who matter.

Any asshole that thinks the "Tea Party' is a grassroots movement that was not brought about by the richest and most cynical people in the USA, has totally bought the bullshit, hook, line, and sinker. The facts are readily available. The genesis of the tea party movement came from corporate funded organizations. Koch Brothers are in the thick of it. The dumass racist sheeple that comprise the tea party are an embarassment to democray. These are the same idiots that think that a Sarah Palin is a credible politician and would make a good POTUS. The glorification of ignorance and stupidity is nauseating.

Take a look at Wyoming for an example of the conservatism that is real. Not the fake corporate kind that the tea party and their ilk represent. The real, small government, no interference with personal life and decsions by the citizens kind of government. Not the corporate tool kind of government that has shown it hideous head in Wisconsin. Not the intrusive, big government kind of conservatism that treats half the population as too stupid to make their own personal medical decisions.

Here are two fact challenge for the RWCS.

Which Political Party has been in power when the US Government has massively EXPANDED, and created new government agencies that did not used to exist?

Which Political Party has been in power when the US budget has run it's largest true defecit spending?

Hint - The party that claims to be all about small government and limited governmental power.

Keeping the premeditiated invasion of Iraq and the war in Afghanistan OFF BUDGET is LYING to the USA. Truth, justice, the American Way? Only if you are an idiot RWC.

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Any asshole that thinks the "Tea Party' is a grassroots movement that was not brought about by the richest and most cynical people in the USA, has totally bought the bullshit, hook, line, and sinker. The facts are readily available. The genesis of the tea party movement came from corporate funded organizations.

Show me the money.

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Which Political Party has been in power when the US Government has massively EXPANDED, and created new government agencies that did not used to exist?

Which Political Party has been in power when the US budget has run it's largest true defecit spending?

Democrats held Congress during Reagan. The final Republican budget under Bush had a 160B deficit. The following year, the Democrat budget had a 458B deficit.

Of course, we ALL know how well the Dems have done under Obama.

Mike
I love you, Shannon and Jim.
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Ignorant right wing half wits don't get the difference between corporate led movements (Tea Party) and a real grass roots movements.

Meanwhile, there are those on all sides of the political aisle who lack the intellectual honesty to understand that there are many different types of grass that can grow and your heaping shit upon other grasses merely operates as fertilizer.

Are you such a mind-numbed robot dominated by the thought processes given to you by others that you don't think anybody out there opposed to you is not a mind-numbed robot domintaed by the thought processes given to them by others?

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The "reagan revolution" and the RWC movement is all about the glorification of opinionated ignorance, with a heaping helping of disdain for those to whom facts and knowlege matter.

True. Much as was accused of the Clinton Admin. Strangely, history is viewing both as damned good presidents.

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Shamefully stupid, yet completely unaware

For thy speaketh the truth! Can I get an amen? I said, CAN I GET AN AMEN! FOR THY KNOWEST THE TRUTH WHILST OTHERS SIN!

Quit watching Pat Robertson. He's rubbed off WAY too much on you...

My wife is hotter than your wife.

[dmcoco84 5]

Wow... that's just, sad.

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Progressive Politics is not the same as the Democratic Party. Conservatism is not the same as Republican Party. Each party has had their original values corrupted and twisted.

You do realize, both, parties... are riddled with progressives?

Besides a select few, like Rand and Ron...



Conservatism is flawed. They preach liberty, limited government, maximum freedom... and then they want to take away a woman's right to (PAY FOR HER OWN - NON TAXPAYER FUNDED) have an abortion.

Imposing their morals on others. Its not for them to decide what is moral... that's God's job.

Who owns your body? You or the Government?

I am a Constitutional Conservative, as I have said many times before.

I am Pro-Choice... abortions and light bulbs.

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The Democrats are finally coming back to the realization that the WORKING FOLKS,

That's just, funny...

Both parties... just want money, power and control. When both parties vote in term limits... I'll be more convinced they aren't there for their own interests.

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Tea Party - The facts are readily available.

You and amazon keep saying that... yet when I asked her to explain Koch, she tucked her tail between her legs.

Would you care to explain? Cause I don't see it...

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The dumass racist sheeple that comprise the tea party are an embarassment to democray.

Good.

Cause we are not a Democracy... that form of government has always led to tyranny. You can't have limited Government, within a Democracy.

We are (were) a Republic (B4 Andrew Jackson). Even though many of out Elite Progressive D and R's would like us to be a Democracy. Would be much easier to get things done.

Ya know... "progressing."

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Take a look at Wyoming for an example of the conservatism that is real.

Huh...?

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The real, small government, no interference with personal life and decsions by the citizens kind of government.

Ummm....

DEFINED: Small and limited Government
http://www.dropzone.com/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?post=4058065;page=unread#unread

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Which Political Party has been in power when the US Government has massively EXPANDED, and created new government agencies that did not used to exist?

BOTH!

And the first we should get ride of, is the Dept of Education. Waste of 89 billion a year. Thanks Jimmy Carter. How did we ever educated children before you came alone and overstepped states rights.

Thanks Bush... you made it way worse. (No Child)


Reagan expanded Govt and increased spending. He sucked too!

Clinton sucked and got sucked... and I read the other day Monica is still in love with him... haha. "Skeet Skeet! Get outta my office!"



Our first progressive president... Teddy... a Republican.

Our second. Wilson... a Democrat.


What are they Progressing to?

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"Well, the trouble with our liberal friends is not that they are ignorant, but that they know so much that isn’t so." -Ronald Reagan

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>"Well, the trouble with our liberal friends is not that they are ignorant, but
>that they know so much that isn’t so." -Ronald Reagan

"I have been thinking that I would make a proposition to my Republican friends... that if they will stop telling lies about the Democrats, we will stop telling the truth about them." - Adlai E. Stevenson Jr

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"I have been thinking that I would make a proposition to my Republican friends... that if they will stop telling lies about the Democrats, we will stop telling the truth about them." - Adlai E. Stevenson Jr

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You and amazon keep saying that... yet when I asked her to explain Koch, she tucked her tail between her legs.

Would you care to explain? Cause I don't see it...

RIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIGHT


You WILL never see that which you do not want to see....( and therefore UNWILLING to go look for yourself)

Where never is heard those discouraging words...


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Take a look at Wyoming for an example of the conservatism that is real.

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Huh...?
( MORE LIKE DUHHHHHHHH)
Again.. go research a couple of recent bills in the Wyoming Legislature pertaining to social issues... REAL conservatives... not wishing to intrude and force their OWN morality on their fellow citizens.

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Constitutional conservative

...... BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

[dmcoco84 5]

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(and therefore UNWILLING to go look for yourself)

Cause I'm wicked busy...

If I had as much time as Billvon to read and post... I would be more than happy to research it myself. Though if I had the time, I would first be researching the 13th amendment.... pertaining to a second corporation inside out constitution or something like that... (bj.com thread)

IDK... wish II had the time. But that's life...

And "follow the money" doesn't really tell me anything.

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Where never is heard those discouraging words...

Not sure what you are referring to...

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Take a look at Wyoming for an example of the conservatism that is real.

Got some bill numbers...?

What is your definition of "real conservatism"? What are your principles?

Bush is not a conservative... total progressive. Never voted for him.

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Again.. go research a couple of recent bills in the Wyoming Legislature pertaining to social issues... REAL conservatives... not wishing to intrude and force their OWN morality on their fellow citizens.

How about this... I'll take 30 minutes, and search your posts for Koch info. I'll post my findings...

If you give me a bill number.

I've been up for 30+ hrs and doubt I'll be going to bed any time soon... really busy. Including I had to pay for an extension on a college class because I couldn't get it done in time.


So... Humor me... ??

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Shamefully stupid, yet completely unaware.

Coming from someone who can't negotiate his own employment contract.

HAMMER:
Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a
kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the
object we are trying to hit.

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To strip workers of their collective bargaining rights is just another step towards killing the labor movement, or at least what is left of it, in the USA.

We're getting closer to Socialism all of the time, and little of it has to do with Obama.

In a few years no one will make anything in the US of A and workers will have no rights. Hello America, meet China. Then we'll get the factories rolling again full of $5 hour jobs.

If politicians did their jobs the way they are supposed to, many States would be in far better shape. States, counties and cities all tried to go into business for themselves by building arenas, convention centers, etc.
We all know what happens when a government agency tries to run a business.

So lets blame the workers.

[dmcoco84 5]

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The fire started near the vice presidential offices, CNN's Kathleen Koch reported.

Is she apart of it?

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Things You Need to Know About the Uprising in Wisconsin

THe GBRWCJ is working overtime now that they have recived their THOGHT from the Koch Brothers to do everything they can to bust the unions to deprive the Democrats of a major political player... leaving them to throw as much money into the next election as they and the rest of the 1% wish.

Again... there is a fundamental difference between public and private sector unions.

What has been done is not union busting. You say I am failing to see the truth... but you fail to recognize the difference between the two.

What do you find false from this video?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=su4PwZCWUdg&feature=player_embedded

I don't care about the messenger... attack his words. If this is lies or false... speak up.

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O'Keefe "deceptive" and "unethical" from a surprising source

Rushmc:
Example,
Walker from WI was punked by a person saying he was a Koch. So why didn't Walker get in big trouble politically from this call?

I've heard the entire phone call... it didn't destroy him... nor does it explain anything more than the falsehood, that this is union busting.

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Wisconsin democrats leave state to avoid union vote

Hey I know its inconvienient.. but wasnt it the cocksuckers of the PARTY OF NO... that would never go for any up or down vote.... as long as they were in the minority the last couple years??

Just a nice side note... cocksuckers... lovely,

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Obviously you like the rest of the FRINGe RIGHT you think that the issue that is causing this is fair game to BREAK all the contracts and bust the unions...and then SPEND all those pension funds like you have done in the private sector over and over.

I would say those workers earned their pensions.. not the rich who wish to spend all of that money that was set aside.

Legality means nothing to those who are wanting to bend over in hopes of a bit of trickle from their rich masters.

Again... all I see you talking about is the Koch pushing influence to bust unions.

Obama broke contracts of Chrystler shareholders... wicked against the law. But the unions got a pretty sweet deal.

Umm... Because they got him elected... 60 million alone came from SEIU ... and they brag about it... their words not mine... on video.


Well... ya keep the contracts... and they will get nothing. You and others go on and on about the budget repair bill and stealing money.

There is a 3.6 billion budget shortfall... do you deny that?

EVERYTHING needs to visit the chopping block. We need an Axe, not a scalp.

If you deny the majority of our states are broke... you, yourself... are ignoring reality.

Pensions are a Ponzi Scheme... they only work for one generation... we are at the tail end of it.

There is no money... everyone is broke.

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Follow the money... the Koch brothers sure are... be sure to pray to them for some of that trickle...

This is not about balancing a budget... I know that is hard to see for those who have their heads fimly implanted rectally ... they really should come out for air and see where this is REALLLLY coming from

Doesn't explain anything further.

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Check again.. from a reliable source... follow the money.. the Koch Brothers always have. They want much much more. The public employees just want the little stipends they have worked for based on CONTRACTS.

The little stipends... ?

Come on Amazon... really?

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You called this an unreliable source... really?

This isn't a reliable source?
http://www.usdebtclock.org/

And i was posting in the rest of that thread and you have said nothing more to clarify your arguments.

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OK, if someone gets hurt or shot will the media blame the dems?

Unions do NOT have the resources that CORPORATIONS and the guys like Kock..

Yes they do...

When you say corporations... can you name the major players?

GE is quite in bed with the Obama Admin. Obama has Trumpka and had andy stern in the white house quite often. Andy was 22 times i think the last count before he resigned amid controversy...

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Is that some trickle I see on your head? YUP, I think you need a towel.

You are discounting ALL of the money they have put into that favorite of the rePUBIClown party... those pesky shadow groups... made to look like something they are not... Swiftboat et al come to mind ...BILLIONS... try again...

Shadow groups... so would you say Koch and Soros are equivalents?

Buncha rants about voo doo econ...

Bush Sr sucked... so did Reagan. We have no disagreement.

But FDR's new deal (which Obama copied exactly) did not work... it made the depression last longer and made it more severe.

And it has not work now etiher... "we need more time and more spending."

No. We don't.


We don't have a true free market nor capitalism. We have crony capitalism... carter, reagan, bushes, obama, clinton.

They are all the same.



I don't see anything else...

[dmcoco84 5]

I spent over an hour on that...

Your Turn.

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I'm predicting some pretty lame name calling headed your way.

And the rest of your ilk too

You are only as strong as the prey you devour

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Duh...

Tea Party protesters came on their own dime and their own time, union protestors got bussed in by the unions, with pay.

You're basing your opinions on how people got to the rally instead of what the rally was about?

Mike, what difference does it make whether those people got there walking, in a taxi, or in a chauffered limo.
I mean...that's pretty far out there to blame somebody for that.

You'd really have a problem if you knew that the '68 democratic convention had people coming in on buses of all types...Greyhounds and VWs and everything in between.

My reality and yours are quite different.
I think we're all Bozos on this bus.
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I'm predicting some pretty lame name calling headed your way.

And the rest of your ilk too

Oh, you mean the professors. Give it time so the college kids can check with the profs to see what opinions they are supposed to have. I'm sure they provided a reading list for the kids.

My reality and yours are quite different.
I think we're all Bozos on this bus.
Falcon5232, SCS8170, SCSA353, POPS9398, DS239

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I spent over an hour on that...

Your Turn.

Personally, I would have used that hour doing something productive. Your mileage varies.

I will make a suggestion though.
Writing with clarity is a learned skill. It gets your point across much better than loose-cannon raving.

I'd like to respond to your post but I found it hard to comprehend just what it is you're trying to say unless it's only just snippets of opinions on several different topics. Call it reading comprehension if you want and I'll agree....it's impossible to comprehend loose-cannon raving.

My reality and yours are quite different.
I think we're all Bozos on this bus.
Falcon5232, SCS8170, SCSA353, POPS9398, DS239

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Duh...

Tea Party protesters came on their own dime and their own time, union protestors got bussed in by the unions, with pay.

You're basing your opinions on how people got to the rally instead of what the rally was about?

Mike, what difference does it make whether those people got there walking, in a taxi, or in a chauffered limo.
I mean...that's pretty far out there to blame somebody for that.

Blame? I'm not 'blaming' anyone or anything. But there's a different level of dedication between taking time off work and spending your own money to attend something, and getting paid time off and being bussed in at union expense.

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You'd really have a problem if you knew that the '68 democratic convention had people coming in on buses of all types...Greyhounds and VWs and everything in between.

Nope, sure wouldn't - see above.

Mike
I love you, Shannon and Jim.
POPS 9708 , SCR 14706