ryoder 1,590 #1 April 4, 2011 http://news.yahoo.com/s/yblog_thelookout/20110404/bs_yblog_thelookout/the-foreclosure-mess-isnt-going-away"There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #2 April 4, 2011 60 Minutes was exceptionally good this last Sunday. Not just this story, but also the incredibly uplifting story about the gospel choir. revised The story about unemployment of older workers actually ran on CBS Sunday Morning, not 60 Minutes.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,027 #3 April 5, 2011 Bankers behaving unethically? Oh, the humanity!... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #4 April 5, 2011 QuoteBankers behaving unethically? Oh, the humanity! John, I love you dearly, but the proper sarcastic comment is; "I'm shocked, shocked to find that __________ is going on in here!"quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #5 April 5, 2011 Quote60 Minutes was exceptionally good this last Sunday. Not just this story, but also the incredibly uplifting story about the gospel choir. revised The story about unemployment of older workers actually ran on CBS Sunday Morning, not 60 Minutes. 60 Minutes and CBS have a history of being way less than truthful Watching them is a waste of time uless one is an advocate of the ends justifies the means mentality"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wmw999 2,446 #6 April 5, 2011 Just about every news outlet has a history of being less than truthful. Take what you can from each and try to discern. You missed a great story about a gospel choir and their director in NYC. Wendy P.There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #7 April 5, 2011 QuoteJust about every news outlet has a history of being less than truthful. Take what you can from each and try to discern. You missed a great story about a gospel choir and their director in NYC. Wendy P. The choir story would have been good to see But for CBS and 60 minutes as a whole, they lost me in the early 80's when they ran the hit piece on nuke plants Their sad history has continued unfortunatly as the more reputable sources we have the better"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,465 #8 April 5, 2011 Quotemore reputable sources Like NewsMax or Fox? What do you consider to be a reputable source? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #9 April 5, 2011 QuoteQuotemore reputable sources Like NewsMax or Fox? What do you consider to be a reputable source? I use all the following NewMax (they link many other sites as well as their own stories) Drudge (links many other sites like NewsMax and they have very few of their own articles) CNN FOX MSNBC BBC NPR (rarely) and others Being reputatable is relative at best so I read many sites I do not watch any prime time news on tv or cable How about you? Who gives you your truths?"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,465 #10 April 5, 2011 QuoteHow about you? Who gives you your truths? I asked about news not truth. Don't think I can point to one specific source. But I like to read (and watch some TV) Canadian, US and European news sources. It helps to understand more than one language. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
winsor 236 #11 April 5, 2011 QuoteQuoteHow about you? Who gives you your truths? I asked about news not truth. Don't think I can point to one specific source. But I like to read (and watch some TV) Canadian, US and European news sources. It helps to understand more than one language. Actually, understanding one language is often too much to ask. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #12 April 5, 2011 QuoteBut for CBS and 60 minutes as a whole, they lost me in the early 80's when they ran the hit piece on nuke plants. Their sad history has continued unfortunatly as the more reputable sources we have the better I think every news organization on the planet has been occasionally not 100% accurate and I also think they've occasionally made mistakes of not checking their sources enough. That said, CBS, and especially 60 minutes actually does have a pretty good record. I realize you may not see it that way based on your example of a story that ran about 30 years ago and maybe one or two other stories, in particular the one where Dan Rather was duped by a document forger, but as a whole, 60 minutes is excellent reporting. I'm am surprised, well maybe not, that you would consider The Drudge Report, NewsMax and FoxNews as more "truthful." The Drudge Report is simply link bait. Most of their "reporting" is simply a sensationalized headline linking to another web site. That's not reporting at all. NewsMax and FoxNews might as well be Pravda from the old Soviet Union, only instead of taking their marching orders from the Communist Party, they're taking it from the RNC. While you may be able to find an occasional error in CBS reportage, factual errors are de rigueur at both NewsMax and FoxNews and pretty much always in favor of the positions held by the RNC. Do yourself a favor, seriously, and give 60 Minutes another try. Actually watch it for a month rather than simply dismissing it because of some some story you think they got wrong 30 years ago.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Trafficdiver 8 #13 April 5, 2011 Quote NewsMax and FoxNews might as well be Pravda from the old Soviet Union, only instead of taking their marching orders from the Communist Party, they're taking it from the RNC. While you may be able to find an occasional error in CBS reportage, factual errors are de rigueur at both NewsMax and FoxNews and pretty much always in favor of the positions held by the RNC. Please point out where Fox news has been factally wrong and caught red handed like CBS. You don't know much about Pravda, do you? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #14 April 5, 2011 QuoteYou don't know much about Pravda, do you? Oh, I'm pretty sure I do! Rather than me doing a lot of retyping of material that others have written about far better, let me just link one out of dozens and dozens of reports analyzing FoxNews. http://mediamatters.org/columns/200910270002 FoxNews is one of the most inaccurate sources of news in the entire world.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #15 April 5, 2011 QuoteJust about every news outlet has a history of being less than truthful. Take what you can from each and try to discern. some commit actions that aren't forgivable. I think it was a NBC news 'show' that strapped rocket engines on the bottom of a truck to 'enhance the truth' of their story about Ford engines catching on fire. When they're willing to do something like that, you can't trust a damn thing they air. Others just slant their presentation severely. You can still get something out of these, but you know that you may only be seeing half the story. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wmw999 2,446 #16 April 5, 2011 Here is another, contrasting, viewpoint on the issue of the mortgage paperwork. It makes some very valid points, particularly about the fact that the victims in this case are only victims in one sense -- the vast majority of them did, in fact, default on their mortgages. However, two wrongs don't make a right, and if the mortgage companies had to go through more hoops to complete the transfer, that's what they should have done. After all, if someone has their friend move into the house, and the friend quits making payments, the friend isn't on the stick for the mortgage. So the upshot, to me, is that the big companies tried to save some money, and that "savings" is turning into a huge expense and PR nightmare, because in a paperwork-intensive business, they neglected the paperwork. Wendy P.There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
david3 0 #17 April 5, 2011 QuoteHere is another, contrasting, viewpoint on the issue of the mortgage paperwork. It makes some very valid points, particularly about the fact that the victims in this case are only victims in one sense -- the vast majority of them did, in fact, default on their mortgages. However, two wrongs don't make a right, and if the mortgage companies had to go through more hoops to complete the transfer, that's what they should have done. After all, if someone has their friend move into the house, and the friend quits making payments, the friend isn't on the stick for the mortgage. So the upshot, to me, is that the big companies tried to save some money, and that "savings" is turning into a huge expense and PR nightmare, because in a paperwork-intensive business, they neglected the paperwork. Wendy P. I also believe some good points are made in the article but the story J.T. Reed wants written in its place has already been written many times. The 60 Minutes piece is just a different story in this mess. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jimbrown 0 #18 April 6, 2011 Quote That said, CBS, and especially 60 minutes actually does have a pretty good record. but as a whole, 60 minutes is excellent reporting. Mr Quade, could you tell us who owns CBS? Peace, Jim B. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites jimbrown 0 #19 April 6, 2011 QuoteHere is another, contrasting, viewpoint on the issue of the mortgage paperwork. It makes some very valid points, particularly about the fact that the victims in this case are only victims in one sense -- the vast majority of them did, in fact, default on their mortgages. However, two wrongs don't make a right, and if the mortgage companies had to go through more hoops to complete the transfer, that's what they should have done. After all, if someone has their friend move into the house, and the friend quits making payments, the friend isn't on the stick for the mortgage. So the upshot, to me, is that the big companies tried to save some money, and that "savings" is turning into a huge expense and PR nightmare, because in a paperwork-intensive business, they neglected the paperwork. Wendy P. if you really want to know about mortgage gate and the bailout and the banksters http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/wildbankers.php Peace, Jim B. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites quade 4 #20 April 6, 2011 QuoteMr Quade, could you tell us who owns CBS? CBS Television is owned by CBS Corporation. CBS Corporation is a publicly traded company on the New York Stock Exchange. It is "owned" by a lot of people. Its majority stockholder is Sumner Redstone, an entertainment mogul. CBS is not generally considered to have strong ties to interests outside of the entertainment industry. What point are you attempting to make?quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites mnealtx 0 #21 April 6, 2011 QuoteQuoteMr Quade, could you tell us who owns CBS? CBS Television is owned by CBS Corporation. CBS Corporation is a publicly traded company on the New York Stock Exchange. It is "owned" by a lot of people. What point are you attempting to make? What point are you and others attempting to make when you go on about the owner of News Corp (NASDAQ: NWS)?Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites quade 4 #22 April 6, 2011 QuoteWhat point are you and others attempting to make when you go on about the owner of News Corp (NASDAQ: NWS)? Well, nice attempt to deflect, but I think you can search this thread and you'll see you're the first person to bring that up. However, since you wanted to go there, let me ask if you're ok with a very influential news organization in the US being held in a significant part by a "prince" from a country that greatly benefits from US military operations in the middle-east? The family of this "prince" has contributed greatly to world-wide terrorist organizations as well. Indeed the VAST majority of terrorists involved in 9/11 came from this country and was financed by this country. Some might go so far as to say that terrorism around the world benefits the family of this "prince" since it disrupts oil production of other countries and allows them to sell theirs at much higher profits. Yes, FoxNews has direct ties to the House of Saud which has direct ties to terrorist organizations and indeed the hijackers involved with the 9/11 attacks. The House of Saud benefits greatly by having the US involved in military action in the middle-east; having OUR citizens die so THEY can make more money. You ok with that? You seem to be.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites mnealtx 0 #23 April 6, 2011 QuoteQuoteWhat point are you and others attempting to make when you go on about the owner of News Corp (NASDAQ: NWS)? Well, nice attempt to deflect, but I think you can search this thread and you'll see you're the first person to bring that up. And jimbrown was the first to bring up the ownership of CBS - coming to a point eventually? Thanks for proving my point that your defense of CBS being a-ok since it's a publicly held company was complete bullshit.Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites quade 4 #24 April 6, 2011 QuoteQuoteQuoteWhat point are you and others attempting to make when you go on about the owner of News Corp (NASDAQ: NWS)? Well, nice attempt to deflect, but I think you can search this thread and you'll see you're the first person to bring that up. And jimbrown was the first to bring up the ownership of CBS - coming to a point eventually? Thanks for proving my point that your defense of CBS being a-ok since it's a publicly held company was complete bullshit. Well . . . Uh . . . huh? The only bullshit here is JB and yours. I know what your BS is; simply to be contrarian to anything I post. I'm still not sure what JB's point is.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites mnealtx 0 #25 April 6, 2011 QuoteI know what your BS is; simply to be contrarian to anything I post. Pobrecito.... you're just *so* put upon. jimbrown: Who owns CBS? quade: CBS is a publicly traded company, WTF are you talking about? mnealtx: So is Newscorp - what's your point when you talk about *it's* owner? quade: *ZOMG the Sauds rant* mnealtx: Thanks for showing that public ownship isn't a defense. quade: *whine*Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. 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jimbrown 0 #19 April 6, 2011 QuoteHere is another, contrasting, viewpoint on the issue of the mortgage paperwork. It makes some very valid points, particularly about the fact that the victims in this case are only victims in one sense -- the vast majority of them did, in fact, default on their mortgages. However, two wrongs don't make a right, and if the mortgage companies had to go through more hoops to complete the transfer, that's what they should have done. After all, if someone has their friend move into the house, and the friend quits making payments, the friend isn't on the stick for the mortgage. So the upshot, to me, is that the big companies tried to save some money, and that "savings" is turning into a huge expense and PR nightmare, because in a paperwork-intensive business, they neglected the paperwork. Wendy P. if you really want to know about mortgage gate and the bailout and the banksters http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/wildbankers.php Peace, Jim B. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #20 April 6, 2011 QuoteMr Quade, could you tell us who owns CBS? CBS Television is owned by CBS Corporation. CBS Corporation is a publicly traded company on the New York Stock Exchange. It is "owned" by a lot of people. Its majority stockholder is Sumner Redstone, an entertainment mogul. CBS is not generally considered to have strong ties to interests outside of the entertainment industry. What point are you attempting to make?quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #21 April 6, 2011 QuoteQuoteMr Quade, could you tell us who owns CBS? CBS Television is owned by CBS Corporation. CBS Corporation is a publicly traded company on the New York Stock Exchange. It is "owned" by a lot of people. What point are you attempting to make? What point are you and others attempting to make when you go on about the owner of News Corp (NASDAQ: NWS)?Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #22 April 6, 2011 QuoteWhat point are you and others attempting to make when you go on about the owner of News Corp (NASDAQ: NWS)? Well, nice attempt to deflect, but I think you can search this thread and you'll see you're the first person to bring that up. However, since you wanted to go there, let me ask if you're ok with a very influential news organization in the US being held in a significant part by a "prince" from a country that greatly benefits from US military operations in the middle-east? The family of this "prince" has contributed greatly to world-wide terrorist organizations as well. Indeed the VAST majority of terrorists involved in 9/11 came from this country and was financed by this country. Some might go so far as to say that terrorism around the world benefits the family of this "prince" since it disrupts oil production of other countries and allows them to sell theirs at much higher profits. Yes, FoxNews has direct ties to the House of Saud which has direct ties to terrorist organizations and indeed the hijackers involved with the 9/11 attacks. The House of Saud benefits greatly by having the US involved in military action in the middle-east; having OUR citizens die so THEY can make more money. You ok with that? You seem to be.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #23 April 6, 2011 QuoteQuoteWhat point are you and others attempting to make when you go on about the owner of News Corp (NASDAQ: NWS)? Well, nice attempt to deflect, but I think you can search this thread and you'll see you're the first person to bring that up. And jimbrown was the first to bring up the ownership of CBS - coming to a point eventually? Thanks for proving my point that your defense of CBS being a-ok since it's a publicly held company was complete bullshit.Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #24 April 6, 2011 QuoteQuoteQuoteWhat point are you and others attempting to make when you go on about the owner of News Corp (NASDAQ: NWS)? Well, nice attempt to deflect, but I think you can search this thread and you'll see you're the first person to bring that up. And jimbrown was the first to bring up the ownership of CBS - coming to a point eventually? Thanks for proving my point that your defense of CBS being a-ok since it's a publicly held company was complete bullshit. Well . . . Uh . . . huh? The only bullshit here is JB and yours. I know what your BS is; simply to be contrarian to anything I post. I'm still not sure what JB's point is.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #25 April 6, 2011 QuoteI know what your BS is; simply to be contrarian to anything I post. Pobrecito.... you're just *so* put upon. jimbrown: Who owns CBS? quade: CBS is a publicly traded company, WTF are you talking about? mnealtx: So is Newscorp - what's your point when you talk about *it's* owner? quade: *ZOMG the Sauds rant* mnealtx: Thanks for showing that public ownship isn't a defense. quade: *whine*Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
