nanook 1 #26 April 11, 2011 QuoteI've always liked that quote but unfortunately, here at Lake Jacosee there is no access for vans close to the water. Those Bastards!! You should buy a sailboat and moor offshore. It'll save on slip fees._____________________________ "The trouble with quotes on the internet is that you can never know if they are genuine" - Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GQ_jumper 4 #27 April 11, 2011 Quote Where is your evidence that Obama excluded the troops from being payed if the government shut down? I have seen lots of Republicans talk shit the last week, but none have said Obama gave an executive order to signal out the military from being payed. How about a first hand account. In the days leading up to the deal being reached I had to pull all my guys in and make sure that every one of them got on the phone with their wives back home to inform them that we would only be receiving half of a paycheck. I confirmed it when I received my mid-month pay statements from DFAS(Defense Finance and Accounting Service), and the mid-month amount was half of what I usually make. We also received a letter from our command telling us the same thing, and making sure leaders have their soldiers make budget plans with their wives. If I were not on a public computer here I would scan in a copy of my Pay statement to show you what I would have received compared to normal before the last minute deal was struck. So yes, regardless of who is to blame, Dems. or GOP, the fact is that none of us in the military would have received pay, yet we were obviously not going to stop conducting operations here in theatre. Even though we would have eventually received all of our pay once the debacle was over the damage would have been done and there would likely be countless soldiers with knocks on their credit because of it. So a little bit of finger pointing here, lets not forget that the president refused a week extension that would have prevented that to force a deal. He held our pay ransom to get his way. Yes I understand both sides were being petty, but one man made the no-pay call.History does not long entrust the care of freedom to the weak or the timid. --Dwight D. Eisenhower Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
idrankwhat 0 #28 April 11, 2011 Quote Yes I understand both sides were being petty, but one man made the no-pay call. Obama stated that he would support a "clean" continuation bill. http://www.whitehouse.gov/sites/default/files/omb/legislative/sap/112/saphr1363h_20110407.pdf The bill that was presented was laden with billions in additional cuts including items such as abortion restrictions. The bill was a ploy to put the Administration in a pinch. If Obama signed it then the Republicans got billions in cuts to items on their hit list, even before the real spending bill was passed. If he doesn't sign it because of the non-military related spending cuts then the Republicans can cry "Obama hates the troops." Now who's compromising the troops for political gain again? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
futuredivot 0 #29 April 11, 2011 Quote Now who's compromising the troops for political gain again? Considering that other options were available, I'd say that the correct answer is the administrationYou are only as strong as the prey you devour Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GQ_jumper 4 #30 April 11, 2011 QuoteNow who's compromising the troops for political gain again Yes I understand both sides were being petty, but one man made the no-pay call.*** Reading comprehension is a critical skill, try again. And yes I agree the GOP was playing stupid games, but I didn't see ANYONE up in Washington screaming to keep our paychecks flowing. For the record, despite the fact that I am registered as a republican, I do not typically associate myself with them. I have not been happy with EITHER party lately, and think the GOP is squandering away a once in a lifetime opportunity at success over petty garbage. Regardless of political affiliations though, there is no excuse for keeping us working and fighting without pay, while everyone in the big offices keep making $100+K a year.History does not long entrust the care of freedom to the weak or the timid. --Dwight D. Eisenhower Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
idrankwhat 0 #31 April 11, 2011 Quote Reading comprehension is a critical skill, try again. And yes I agree the GOP was playing stupid games, but I didn't see ANYONE up in Washington screaming to keep our paychecks flowing. Here's one Although I'll agree that I didn't hear about this one either until I went looking. Quote For the record, despite the fact that I am registered as a republican, I do not typically associate myself with them. I have not been happy with EITHER party lately, and think the GOP is squandering away a once in a lifetime opportunity at success over petty garbage. Regardless of political affiliations though, there is no excuse for keeping us working and fighting without pay, while everyone in the big offices keep making $100+K a year. I'm in complete agreement. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites