So by signing the line have I perjured myself?

[jimbrown 0]

At the bottom of the tax form there is a place for your signature.
Preceding your signature there is a paragragh all about "under penalty of perjury I believe this return is true and in compliance with all tax laws (For you sticklers, I am paraphrasing. feel free to update with the actual text) to the best of my knowledge.

Here's the kicker.
I know that I don't fully understand the tax code.

It's like three times as long as the frickin' Bible.

I might be able to fill out a form 1040 but to the best of my knowledge the information on that form is incorrect as I know that I don't hold a full understanding of the entire tax code.

What do I do?
Sign the form and perjure myself or simply not file as the government has placed me in a catch-22 situation?

Peace,
Jim B.

[oldwomanc6 52]

Pay a tax professional, and let them take the fall

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[Gravitymaster 0]

Don't sign it then. After all, our tax system is voluntary so if you dn't feel like paying taxes, don't do it.

http://www.buildfreedom.com/fiscal/irs_commissioner.html

[jimbrown 0]

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Pay a tax professional, and let them take the fall

Are you suggesting that in order to comply with the law in the United States of America one must hire outside parties?

Would they understand the law ? The book is three times as large as the Bible.

Does anyone have an absolute understanding of our tax code?

Peace,

Jim B.

[Kennedy 0]

http://www.irs.gov/irb/2005-14_IRB/ar10.html

The word you're looking for is "jurat".

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. Form 1040 contains a jurat that states, in part, “(U)nder the penalties of perjury, I declare that I [the taxpayer] have examined this return and accompanying schedules and statements, and to the best of my knowledge and belief, they are true, correct, and complete

So it's really quite simple. You don't need to memorize the stacks of tax code. Have you examined the return and any accompanying schedules, and are they true correct and complete to the best of your knowledge? If yes, sign and send it in. If not, then read it; if it's accurate sign and send it in. If it's not, fix it, sign it, and send it in. Any questions?

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[jimbrown 0]

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http://www.irs.gov/irb/2005-14_IRB/ar10.html

The word you're looking for is "jurat".

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. Form 1040 contains a jurat that states, in part, “(U)nder the penalties of perjury, I declare that I [the taxpayer] have examined this return and accompanying schedules and statements, and to the best of my knowledge and belief, they are true, correct, and complete

So it's really quite simple. You don't need to memorize the stacks of tax code. Have you examined the return and any accompanying schedules, and are they true correct and complete to the best of your knowledge? If yes, sign and send it in. If not, then read it; if it's accurate sign and send it in. If it's not, fix it, sign it, and send it in. Any questions?

Ok, but..,
I know it's probably not accurate as I understand that I don't know the entire tax code.
So should I perjure myself and declare that it is accurate?
I know most likely it's not.

If I don't sign what are the ramifications?

Peace,
JimB.

[nanook 1]

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to the best of my knowledge.

This here, at worst, causes an audit. They have to prove that there was some intentional tax evasion going on before you get some jail time. I wouldn't worry.

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[jimbrown 0]

Nanook, have you read the entire tax code?

Would it suprise you to hear that toward the last 3rd of the code it is explained that all wages are exempt?

You haven't read it have you?
You've just assumed that you are liable for income tax/

Why would you assume that?

Peace,
Jim B.

[DrewEckhardt 0]

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Pay a tax professional, and let them take the fall

The last time I did that it cost me $450.

And their calculations were about $500 off from mine.

So I spent as much time as I would have feeding my numbers to a computer program figuring out what they missed.

Turns out they left off a whole page of a multi-part 1099 (INT/DIV/OID) which the IRS had a copy of.

The next year I did my own data entry.

[nanook 1]

The last third of the code are for Trust Funds, coal industry health benefits and group health plans.

The last third of the Income tax code have been repealed with the exception of the consolidated taxes which refer to coporations. Are you reading the right areas. Point me to the area in question.

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[shropshire 0]

Sign the damned form and get on with your life

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Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome

[popsjumper 2]

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a paragragh all about "under penalty of perjury I believe this return is untrue and not in compliance with all tax laws to the best of my knowledge.

Make the indicated changes and sign it.

My reality and yours are quite different.
I think we're all Bozos on this bus.
Falcon5232, SCS8170, SCSA353, POPS9398, DS239

[Southern_Man 0]

Perjury requires intention. This is one place that ignorance of the law is actually an excuse. It does not protect you from having to pay any back taxes you may owe from not figuring them correctly but it does protect you against perjury charges.

"What if there were no hypothetical questions?"

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I know it's probably not accurate as I understand that I don't know the entire tax code.

You're being circular again, there, boy. It asks whether you've told the truth. If your non-answer answer is that you can't really answer because you don't understand the entire tax code, that shit just won't fly. Period. Over and out.

[Andy9o8 2]

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Perjury requires intention. This is one place that ignorance of the law is actually an excuse. It does not protect you from having to pay any back taxes you may owe from not figuring them correctly but it does protect you against perjury charges.

Uh... far less so than you apparently think.

[GQ_jumper 4]

If you have access to the tax code and are able to read the parts that apply directly to you then whose fault would it be if there were mistakes?

There is no catch-22, the code is publicly available, and if you so choose to do the forms on your own then you are responsible for knowing what should be there. The cheat sheet is in your hands and if you fail to take advantage of it then you are at fault.

Option B) Join the military, we get our taxes done for free

History does not long entrust the care of freedom to the weak or the timid.
--Dwight D. Eisenhower

[jimbrown 0]

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If you have access to the tax code and are able to read the parts that apply directly to you then whose fault would it be if there were mistakes?

There is no catch-22, the code is publicly available, and if you so choose to do the forms on your own then you are responsible for knowing what should be there. The cheat sheet is in your hands and if you fail to take advantage of it then you are at fault.

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Listen GI Joe,
the tax code is a bit longer and a little more complicated than the instructions on an MRE.
I'm happy that you can understand the instructions on a claymor mine.
I hope that someday you will be able to think for yourself.

Here is a simple question for you Joe;

Why are you in Iraq or Afghanistan ?

Peace,
JimB.





Option B) Join the military, we get our taxes done for free

[Andy9o8 2]

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Listen GI Joe,
the tax code is a bit longer and a little more complicated than the instructions on an MRE.
I'm happy that you can understand the instructions on a claymor mine.
I hope that someday you will be able to think for yourself.

Here is a simple question for you Joe;

Why are you in Iraq or Afghanistan ?

Still trolling, eh?
Yawn.