AggieDave 6 #26 April 22, 2011 Quotedepartments need to use the "false statement to cause police investigation" more when they find they person is lying...cop lies? bye retirement, citizen lies? cop gets cleared...hmm something missing there You would think, but that is the sort of thing that "gives a department bad press." So typically departments are unwilling to try the legal reprise, in fear of keeping people from bringing real complaints forward. Not all officers are good people who try to do good things in good faith. Some slip through the cracks and citizens need to feel welcome to bring forth a valid problem and complaint.--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Davy 0 #27 April 22, 2011 spoken like a true administrator...lol no offense meant, I heard that speech 1st hand after an internal...Bad Monkey!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #28 April 22, 2011 QuoteAnd should I use profanity to indicate my vehement displeasure or question their intelligence, parentage, or just their right to waste precious oxygen, is that a criminal offense? Perhaps a misdemeanor? Technically, no. I would love to get a ticket for such non-sense and argue my First Amendment rights in court against whatever clown thought he could police my language simply because it was "profane." On the practical side . . . don't taz me bro. Interesting report here about repeatedly flipping cops the bird. http://www.onthemedia.org/transcripts/2010/03/05/05quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AggieDave 6 #29 April 22, 2011 Quotespoken like a true administrator...lol no offense meant, I heard that speech 1st hand after an internal... I'm so far from admin...I can't even grow a good angry-admin-stache... Anyways, public forum and all. Being a motor, you can imagine how often my videos get reviewed from a phone call! All false complaints, but you can imagine.--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Davy 0 #30 April 22, 2011 retired...early...can say whatever the hell I want now...miss it everyday but payday!!! like to think I did it right.... and how many cops did it take to throw the man down the stairs? None! he fell I swear....Bad Monkey!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
freethefly 6 #31 April 22, 2011 Quote Quote Quote Trick is, if others can't hear you, odds are they can't see you and you'll have no witness's to your beating...hope this helped. Be sure to ask for your complimentary tazing! And ask about how you can take your very own Aphids home to cherish the experience with... Ok, seriously, every contact with a citizen is recorded by at least audio, typically audio and video. That is to protect ME from the citizen. Departments now days will crucify an officer if a citizen makes a false complaint and it is their word verses the officer! Even officers with a long track record of being a good officer. People get angry and call in to complain on officers with the most outrageous things. They think that if they complain on the officer their speeding ticket (or whatever) will get dropped. People feel really stupid when they're asked to come in and watch themselves make an ass of themselves on video, then having lied about the experience and the officer. I was just talking to my nephew the other day about this exact issue. Last week his dog bit a suspect that was in cuffs. What happened was he let Diesel loose to pursue the suspect. Well, the dog clamped onto another cop in the dark. Ryan got the dog off of the other officer and let him loose again and did catch the suspect. While the suspect fought with the dog, somehow the choke collar came off. Ryan had to put the dog in a sleeper hold to relax it's jaw on the suspect. While the suspect was being cuffed, Diesel came to while Ryan was waiting on another officer to bring the spare collar from his vehicle. Diesel saw the suspect and was able to get loose and bite the guy again. He's pretty sure the suspect will sue. Wouldn't be the first time. Most times the suits are dismiss due to video. In the first attached picture, Ryan is the officer in uniform and his dog is doing his thing. His dog took first place in national police dog competition."...And once you're gone, you can't come back When you're out of the blue and into the black." Neil Young Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AggieDave 6 #32 April 22, 2011 Rule #1 from K9 cross training: never be between the handler and a suspect. Rule #2: Please refer to rule #1.--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites