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If Walmart Paid its 1.4 Million U.S. Workers a Living Wage, it Would Result in Almost No Pain for the Average Customer

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McDs announced it was 50,000 new hires for the US.



Makes sense, the US has 10 times the population than Canada has. Still, you have to question people's diets if McPukes is expanding it's work force.



Isn't that sad - McJobs, but no manufacturing jobs, or any other jobs.

Like a friend of mine in the US recently messaged me: "Ain't nothing here but high gas prices and no jobs."

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McDs announced it was 50,000 new hires for the US.



Makes sense, the US has 10 times the population than Canada has. Still, you have to question people's diets if McPukes is expanding it's work force.



Isn't that sad - McJobs, but no manufacturing jobs, or any other jobs.

Like a friend of mine in the US recently messaged me: "Ain't nothing here but high gas prices and no jobs."

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No jobs? Then what are all the "Help Wanted" signs in the windows for?
I get calls almost every day from people looking for skilled welders, fabricators, machinists, etc. There are jobs. Lots of jobs. Problem is, people aren't willing to change their lifestyle to adapt.

Just a small sample: http://jobs.monster.com/v-manufacturing-q-welding-jobs.aspx
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You'd probably make more money joining the family dogsled operation, since you'd get paid in maple syrup and the exchange is highly favorable right now.. But this advice I'm givin ya, see, it's worth good money



I am well aware of the differences between our two tax systems and well aware of where Canada and the US are different from each other and where we are similar. Currently it is actually cheaper for me to live in Alberta since I own a house here and it's paid off. But I had a great time when I called Colorado home and CO has some of the best weather anywhere. I don't know it all in life, I only know what I have been exposed to. But I honestly don't think I need you giving me advice on what life is like in these two countries. I have lived and worked in both countries? Have you?


I was 100% kidding, with my advice ;) My only real point is that $12cad in a Canadian WalMart is irrelevant to what they pay in the US. Don't take anything else I said to heart :P I love Canada. "Lived there" as a perpetual tourist, and probably will again. Did not work there.

And you're right about Colorado, I may be heading back later this summer.

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those pesky unions need to be sorted out...

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5 Trade Unions banned - 2 May 1933

The Trade Unions offices were closed, their money confiscated, and their leaders put in prison. In their place, Hitler put the German Labour Front which reduced workers' pay and took away the right to strike.



http://www.johndclare.net/Nazi_Germany1.htm
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All those mean nasty horrible Republicans in Massachusetts are taking care of the unions there for you. Oh wait. Oops. It's the Democrats doing that. Doing just what they wanted to crucify Wisconsin for proposing.

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let's see - i mention living wage and billvon immediately brings up worker beatings and unions. that black armband is very easy to put on...
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>you'd even join a union

Only if they give me a black armband. And half off at Starbucks. And a big cigar.



and, as a union member, you get better wages and working conditions thrown in for free - a good deal all round :)
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>as the bankers have found out...

Your story seems to be changing! At one point you accused them of destroying the economy. Now they don't do anything. Interesting.



nothing productive from them then...

(meanwhile we have to pay for their bailout)
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or should I just never eat one at McDonald's?



Dude, eat a McDonalds burger at your own risk. I won't touch them unless there is alcohol involved. On the other hand, their oatmeal/salad/coffee kicks ass. + free WIFI

Don't ask Dreamdancer's opinion though! He despises them. Patrick McDonald should never have opened a burger stand in 1937 with intent to grow - what an asshole

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so much for the 'free' market...

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Walmart is a company notorious for breaking up labor unions and has taken swift action to prevent its workers from organizing. In 2000, “when a small meatcutting department successfully organized a union at a Walmart store in Texas, Wal-Mart responded a week later by announcing the phase-out of its meatcutting departments entirely.” When a branch in Quebec, Canada, voted to unionize, the company immediately shut down the store.



http://thinkprogress.org/2011/05/12/wal-mart-union-buster/
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www.nytimes.com/2011/05/09/opinion/09krugman.html



I agree with him to some degree, but his analysis stops short by only going back a decade. Middle class purchasing power has been stagnant since at least the 80's, maybe the 70's. The responses to that have been several attempts to maintain or improve real income (or maybe better said as trying to create that perception) - all of which have not only failed - but which have exposed our inability to compete globally. A gullible public ate it up because of the unrealistic expectation that everybody ought to have everything. We are probably the worst society on the planet when it comes to living within means. Think I'll take a poke around to see what the income to debt ratio is for other countries.
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No easy to find stats to compare countries; but did find some food for thought. US consumer debt (all personal non-mortgage debt) is about $3.2 trillion.

That is pretty bad (just personal opinion) when you consider our workforce is only about 150 million people. So we appear to be about 2 1/2 years of income in hock, which is astounding when you remember this is just consumption debt - no mortgages included.

I think private individual spending and saving habits (and the demand created by those habits and our entitlement mentality) are the prime cause of our economic woes.

Consumer: "I WANT IT NOW AND I WANT IT CHEAP!"

Supplier: "Very well then, here is your crappy merchandise - and by the way - your job just got shipped overseas. Can we assume you'll be needing even shittier cheaper stuff in the future?"

It's a death spiral of consumer greed and suppliers all too willing to make it happen.
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No easy to find stats to compare countries; but did find some food for thought. US consumer debt (all personal non-mortgage debt) is about $3.2 trillion.

That is pretty bad (just personal opinion) when you consider our workforce is only about 150 million people. So we appear to be about 2 1/2 years of income in hock, which is astounding when you remember this is just consumption debt - no mortgages included.



what's your math here?

the division of these is 21,000, hardly 2.5 years of income in the hock. Not sure the number is reasonable either - households that carry a balance owe ~10k on credit cards, plus perhaps a 11k note on their car loan. Student loans?

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