freethefly 6 #51 April 26, 2011 QuoteAnd if the invasion of Iraq was outside the rules of international society than every invader is a war criminal. They may escape prosecution but they are still war criminals. Collectively, the over all international community felt a need, for whatever reason, to remove Saddam from power. The Coalition is evidence to this. Bush's underlying reason was mostly revenge. He all but abandoned the hunt for Bin Laden and wasted resources and manpower in a country that was retained and no longer a threat. Chances are Saddam would be close to a natural death by now anyways. Or a well placed missile could had taken him out in short order. Bush 1 said "You break it, you bought it". His son should had listened to him. The old man knew better than to go all the way in. Bush 2 acted solely on bravado. That alone might be consider a crime. But, you're welcomed to call whomever you wish a war criminal. It is a free country, after all. Got any plans for the Fourth of July? Maybe, you plan to protest a firework display or two? You're allowed to do that, too. Good to be an American. Is it not? You can thank a vet, those serving, and those you will serve for that."...And once you're gone, you can't come back When you're out of the blue and into the black." Neil Young Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wmw999 2,439 #52 April 26, 2011 Quote Got any plans for the Fourth of July? Maybe, you plan to protest a firework display or two? You're allowed to do that, too. Ooh -- scoot over, share the popcorn, and let's see the video Wendy P.There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jimbrown 0 #53 April 29, 2011 QuoteQuoteAnd if the invasion of Iraq was outside the rules of international society than every invader is a war criminal. They may escape prosecution but they are still war criminals. Collectively, the over all international community felt a need, for whatever reason, to remove Saddam from power. The Coalition is evidence to this. Bush's underlying reason was mostly revenge. He all but abandoned the hunt for Bin Laden and wasted resources and manpower in a country that was retained and no longer a threat. Chances are Saddam would be close to a natural death by now anyways. Or a well placed missile could had taken him out in short order. Bush 1 said "You break it, you bought it". His son should had listened to him. The old man knew better than to go all the way in. Bush 2 acted solely on bravado. That alone might be consider a crime. But, you're welcomed to call whomever you wish a war criminal. It is a free country, after all.Quote I remember!!! The "Coalition of the Willing", bribed, and threatened . My.., I see the great Kingdom of Tonga on the list! I'm impressed!!!!! You can't spin it! Fact is that pre- emptive war is a crime against humanity. Even if you *feel* that the Saddam regime should have been removed , the invasion of Iraq and the murder of each innocent resulting from that action is a crime and anyone participating in any of those criminal acts is a criminal. It doesn't matter that they were duped into these criminal actions. The Charlie Manson defense doesn't cut it! The argument that Toby Kieth andHank Williams Jr. told them to do it through their music wont hold water. The invasion of Iraq was criminal , many innocents were slaughtered by the US military . The US Military (Army, Navy, Airforce, Marines) conspired to commit these crimes and each and every member of those criminal organizations are equally guilty of those crimes. Peace, Jim B Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites jimbrown 0 #54 April 29, 2011 [Got any plans for the Fourth of July? Maybe, you plan to protest a firework display or two? You're allowed to do that, too. Good to be an American. Is it not? You can thank a vet, those serving, and those you will serve for that. Actually.., I don't think it's the recent vets I should be thanking for my being an American. I'm also not quite so sure what debt of gratitude I'm obligated to past vets. I will be celebrating as July 4 is my birth day. Peace, Jim Brown Bear Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites RonD1120 62 #55 April 29, 2011 Quote The US Military (Army, Navy, Airforce, Marines) conspired to commit these crimes and each and every member of those criminal organizations are equally guilty of those crimes. Peace, Jim B You cannot change the law to suit your philosophical mission. You are just plain wrong. I long ago accepted the fact that you are a fringe type. If you keep up this line of reasoning you place yourself in an even more unfavorable light. To the veteran community and specifically Vietnam vets, speaking against them is very likely to arouse unfavorable passions. If you want to preach an anti-war policy that is your right. However, I strongly recommend you change your strategy and technique.Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites jimbrown 0 #56 May 6, 2011 QuoteQuote The US Military (Army, Navy, Airforce, Marines) conspired to commit these crimes and each and every member of those criminal organizations are equally guilty of those crimes. Peace, Jim B You cannot change the law to suit your philosophical mission. You are just plain wrong. I long ago accepted the fact that you are a fringe type. If you keep up this line of reasoning you place yourself in an even more unfavorable light. To the veteran community and specifically Vietnam vets, speaking against them is very likely to arouse unfavorable passions. If you want to preach an anti-war policy that is your right. However, I strongly recommend you change your strategy and technique. First off Ron, preemptive war is a violation of international law. The US signed the treaty and we broke the law. That is a fact. As far as me being a "fringe type", you are absolutely right! I am a thinking man . I don't blindly accept what I am told. Those two charachteristics certainly place me on the fringe of the US population. Thirdly, As far as the Vietnam Vets most are absolved from any criminality as the majority were drafted. They were damned if they went and damned if they didn't. I have something to say about military conscription in a supposedly "free" country but I will save that for a future post. As far as my "anti war -war policy " , Ron the Christian (?),riddle me this.., WWJB? Who would Jesus bomb ??? Peace, Jim B. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites david3 0 #57 May 6, 2011 Oh fuck. You're back. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites jimbrown 0 #58 May 6, 2011 QuoteOh fuck. You're back. And it's nice to see you too! Let me tell you.., Today is the best day of my life!!!!! I hope it has been for you as well !!! I've got a lot to catch up on before I tell the dz dot com masses all about this Osama assasination hoax so exuse me for not staying to chat longer . Peace, Jim B. Peace, Jim B. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites billvon 2,990 #59 May 6, 2011 >all about this Osama assasination hoax The Deathers are here! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Amazon 7 #60 May 6, 2011 QuoteOh fuck. You're back. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9pa1OQF7zMI Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites jimbrown 0 #61 May 6, 2011 Quote>all about this Osama assasination hoax The Deathers are here! Deathers ,Birthers, whatever! Hey Mr Bilvon, here is a link io a list of 33 conpiracy theories that turned out to have merit http://www.newworldorderreport.com/News/tabid/266/ID/980/33-Conspiracy-Theories-That-Turned-Out-To-Be-True-What-Every-Person-Should-Know-Updated-Revised-and-Extended.aspx Sorry I don't know how to make it easy for ya! LOL! Peace, Jim B Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites RonD1120 62 #62 May 6, 2011 I've lost interest.Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Prev 1 2 3 Next Page 3 of 3 Join the conversation You can post now and register later. 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jimbrown 0 #54 April 29, 2011 [Got any plans for the Fourth of July? Maybe, you plan to protest a firework display or two? You're allowed to do that, too. Good to be an American. Is it not? You can thank a vet, those serving, and those you will serve for that. Actually.., I don't think it's the recent vets I should be thanking for my being an American. I'm also not quite so sure what debt of gratitude I'm obligated to past vets. I will be celebrating as July 4 is my birth day. Peace, Jim Brown Bear Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RonD1120 62 #55 April 29, 2011 Quote The US Military (Army, Navy, Airforce, Marines) conspired to commit these crimes and each and every member of those criminal organizations are equally guilty of those crimes. Peace, Jim B You cannot change the law to suit your philosophical mission. You are just plain wrong. I long ago accepted the fact that you are a fringe type. If you keep up this line of reasoning you place yourself in an even more unfavorable light. To the veteran community and specifically Vietnam vets, speaking against them is very likely to arouse unfavorable passions. If you want to preach an anti-war policy that is your right. However, I strongly recommend you change your strategy and technique.Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jimbrown 0 #56 May 6, 2011 QuoteQuote The US Military (Army, Navy, Airforce, Marines) conspired to commit these crimes and each and every member of those criminal organizations are equally guilty of those crimes. Peace, Jim B You cannot change the law to suit your philosophical mission. You are just plain wrong. I long ago accepted the fact that you are a fringe type. If you keep up this line of reasoning you place yourself in an even more unfavorable light. To the veteran community and specifically Vietnam vets, speaking against them is very likely to arouse unfavorable passions. If you want to preach an anti-war policy that is your right. However, I strongly recommend you change your strategy and technique. First off Ron, preemptive war is a violation of international law. The US signed the treaty and we broke the law. That is a fact. As far as me being a "fringe type", you are absolutely right! I am a thinking man . I don't blindly accept what I am told. Those two charachteristics certainly place me on the fringe of the US population. Thirdly, As far as the Vietnam Vets most are absolved from any criminality as the majority were drafted. They were damned if they went and damned if they didn't. I have something to say about military conscription in a supposedly "free" country but I will save that for a future post. As far as my "anti war -war policy " , Ron the Christian (?),riddle me this.., WWJB? Who would Jesus bomb ??? Peace, Jim B. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
david3 0 #57 May 6, 2011 Oh fuck. You're back. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jimbrown 0 #58 May 6, 2011 QuoteOh fuck. You're back. And it's nice to see you too! Let me tell you.., Today is the best day of my life!!!!! I hope it has been for you as well !!! I've got a lot to catch up on before I tell the dz dot com masses all about this Osama assasination hoax so exuse me for not staying to chat longer . Peace, Jim B. Peace, Jim B. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,990 #59 May 6, 2011 >all about this Osama assasination hoax The Deathers are here! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #60 May 6, 2011 QuoteOh fuck. You're back. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9pa1OQF7zMI Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jimbrown 0 #61 May 6, 2011 Quote>all about this Osama assasination hoax The Deathers are here! Deathers ,Birthers, whatever! Hey Mr Bilvon, here is a link io a list of 33 conpiracy theories that turned out to have merit http://www.newworldorderreport.com/News/tabid/266/ID/980/33-Conspiracy-Theories-That-Turned-Out-To-Be-True-What-Every-Person-Should-Know-Updated-Revised-and-Extended.aspx Sorry I don't know how to make it easy for ya! LOL! Peace, Jim B Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RonD1120 62 #62 May 6, 2011 I've lost interest.Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
