jimbrown 0 #1 April 29, 2011 I challenge any and all to provide the definition of "income" as defined within the Income Tax code. If you can't I wonder why you pay "income " tax every year? Are you required? Peace, Jim B. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #2 April 29, 2011 haven't you already asked this question on 3 or 4 other threads? If you want to learn out to restir up the same shit well, study Rhys. Key part of it is that you have to let time pass in between incantations. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jimbrown 0 #3 April 29, 2011 Quotehaven't you already asked this question on 3 or 4 other threads? In reviewing the other threads no one .., including yourself, has been able to meet the challenge. So , kelpdiver, can you provide us with the definition of "income" as is found in the Tax Code are did you just long to talk to me tonight? Peace, Jim B Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Belgian_Draft 0 #4 April 29, 2011 http://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-drop/rr-07-19.pdf Where's my prize? HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites ryoder 1,590 #5 April 29, 2011 Quote http://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-drop/rr-07-19.pdf Where's my prize? That link it to an authoritative source, so it must automatically be ruled out."There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Andy9o8 2 #6 April 29, 2011 Quote haven't you already asked this question on 3 or 4 other threads? Yes. Quote you have to let time pass in between incantations. You misspelled "incarnations". Oh, I crack myself up. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites jimbrown 0 #7 April 29, 2011 Quote http://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-drop/rr-07-19.pdf Where's my prize? Sorry, That's not from the tax code but we have some nice consolation prizes for you out back . And feel free to try again! Peace, Jim B. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Andy9o8 2 #8 April 29, 2011 QuoteI challenge any and all to provide the definition of "income" as defined within the Income Tax code. Yawn. No problemo. Here it is: http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/26/usc_sup_01_26_10_A_20_1_30_B_40_I.html Click on each sub-link, e.g., §61, §62, etc. Now back to my beer. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites jimbrown 0 #9 April 29, 2011 Quote Quote http://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-drop/rr-07-19.pdf Where's my prize? That link it to an authoritative source, so it must automatically be ruled out. It's not from the tax code so as much as you might hate it that you have been duped...., it doesn't count as law. Hery!!! you could participate and try to find the definition *within the tax code* . Or you could just continue to pay because you are ignorant of the law. Peace, Jim B Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites jimbrown 0 #10 April 29, 2011 QuoteQuoteI challenge any and all to provide the definition of "income" as defined within the Income Tax code. Yawn. No problemo. Here it is: http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/26/usc_sup_01_26_10_A_20_1_30_B_40_I.html Click on each sub-link, e.g., §61, §62, etc. Now back to my beer. Sorry Andy, You can't define a word by using the word in it's own definition. I'm not looking for the definition of "gross income " but "income". Happy hunting. Try again! Peace, Jim B Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Andy9o8 2 #11 April 29, 2011 Quoteit doesn't count as law. You're completely full of shit. You don't merit the waste of energy to argue with your nuttiness. Go back to enjoying the fish. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites david3 0 #12 April 29, 2011 Quotehaven't you already asked this question on 3 or 4 other threads? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sfv3kBzJZgU Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites ryoder 1,590 #13 April 29, 2011 QuoteQuotehaven't you already asked this question on 3 or 4 other threads? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sfv3kBzJZgU Another relevant link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tilting_at_windmills"There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites david3 0 #14 April 29, 2011 QuoteQuoteQuotehaven't you already asked this question on 3 or 4 other threads? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sfv3kBzJZgU Another relevant link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tilting_at_windmills Yes I like yours better. Don Jardine Quixote Fair Winds and Unlimited Ceilings Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites nanook 1 #15 April 29, 2011 Quote I challenge any and all to provide the definition of "income" as defined within the Income Tax code. If you can't I wonder why you pay "income " tax every year? Are you required? Peace, Jim B. Don't have to. There is no need to define "income" in tax codes. There is, however, an explaination of types of income and what they mean. "income" itself doesn't need to be to be legitimized anymore than the word "the"._____________________________ "The trouble with quotes on the internet is that you can never know if they are genuine" - Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Kennedy 0 #16 April 29, 2011 Wow, that was tough, huh? Wikipedia: Income (United States legal definitions) If you want to get technical, you can check in with these folks. http://www.fasb.org/home For a government plain language definition you can got the the IRS 1040, or related gov sites. http://www.hud.gov/offices/cpd/affordablehousing/training/web/calculator/definitions/irs.cfm QuoteThis lists the inclusions and exclusions of IRS Form 1040 income. Inclusions Wages, salaries, tips, etc. Taxable interest. Dividends. Taxable refunds, credits or offsets of State and local income taxes. There are some exceptions - refer to Form 1040 instructions. Alimony (or separate maintenance payments) received. Business income (or loss). Capital gain (or loss). Other gains (or losses) (i.e., assets used in a trade or business that were exchanged or sold). Taxable amount of individual retirement account (IRA) distributions. (Includes simplified employee pension [SEP] and savings incentive match plan for employees [SIMPLE] IRA.) Taxable amount of pension and annuity payments. Rental real estate, royalties, partnerships, S corporations, trusts, etc. Farm income (or loss). Unemployment compensation payments. Taxable amount of Social Security benefits. Other income. (Includes: prizes and awards; gambling, lottery or raffle winnings; jury duty fees; Alaska Permanent fund dividends; reimbursements for amounts deducted in previous years; income from the rental of property if not in the business of renting such property; and income from an activity not engaged in for profit). Exclusions Child support. Money or property that was inherited, willed or given as a gift. Life insurance proceeds received as a result of someone's death Per the Supreme Court, income in the legal sense is given its common meaning. See the Eisner v. Macomber case. But then I'm expecting you to read and comprehend legal text and court decision. I really should know better. Oh wait, the SCOTUS is a federal court, and you think tht means they can't rule on federal tax law. Andy was right. While it's fun to show how easy it is to answer your questions, arguing with you is completely pointless. Get back under your bridge.witty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1* Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Belgian_Draft 0 #17 April 29, 2011 Quote Quote http://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-drop/rr-07-19.pdf Where's my prize? Sorry, That's not from the tax code but we have some nice consolation prizes for you out back . And feel free to try again! Peace, Jim B. Sorry, you are wrong. Go here http://www.fourmilab.ch/uscode/26usc/ Click on the button that says "Sections" That will take you here http://www.fourmilab.ch/uscode/26usc/www/sections.html Click on 61 and tell us what you see. While viewing please keep in mind that it is the US Tax Code you are reading. Have fun!HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites jimbrown 0 #18 April 29, 2011 QuoteQuote I challenge any and all to provide the definition of "income" as defined within the Income Tax code. If you can't I wonder why you pay "income " tax every year? Are you required? Peace, Jim B. Don't have to. There is no need to define "income" in tax codes. There is, however, an explaination of types of income and what they mean. "income" itself doesn't need to be to be legitimized anymore than the word "the". See, nanook , and this is why you are well ..you.LOL! Not meaning to single you out and obviously even an elite(!) ,a member of the board, an officer of the court is dumbstruck here! That's OK! I , Jim B, am here to enlighten you. I will unravel all this legal mess and leave your bedsheets folded crisply and clean so that tonight you can get a good nights sleep. Now here is an interesting fact; when laws are written it is necessary to also include a table of definitions in the statute because quite often the words in the statute aren't meanin' what you and I would commonly believe them to mean. It's the whole lawyer thing but do you realize that sometimes a corporation could be referred to as a" person"? Yes. that's very true. Bill Clinton based his entire defense on "the meaning of *is*"! When it comes to matters of law definitions are paramount1 So once again for all of you who know so damn much about every friggin' subject and every world situation , can anyone of you show us the definition of "income" within the tax code? Peace, Jim B Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Belgian_Draft 0 #19 April 29, 2011 Quote Quote Quote I challenge any and all to provide the definition of "income" as defined within the Income Tax code. If you can't I wonder why you pay "income " tax every year? Are you required? Peace, Jim B. Don't have to. There is no need to define "income" in tax codes. There is, however, an explaination of types of income and what they mean. "income" itself doesn't need to be to be legitimized anymore than the word "the". See, nanook , and this is why you are well ..you.LOL! Not meaning to single you out and obviously even an elite(!) ,a member of the board, an officer of the court is dumbstruck here! That's OK! I , Jim B, am here to enlighten you. I will unravel all this legal mess and leave your bedsheets folded crisply and clean so that tonight you can get a good nights sleep. Now here is an interesting fact; when laws are written it is necessary to also include a table of definitions in the statute because quite often the words in the statute aren't meanin' what you and I would commonly believe them to mean. It's the whole lawyer thing but do you realize that sometimes a corporation could be referred to as a" person"? Yes. that's very true. Bill Clinton based his entire defense on "the meaning of *is*"! When it comes to matters of law definitions are paramount1 So once again for all of you who know so damn much about every friggin' subject and every world situation , can anyone of you show us the definition of "income" within the tax code? Peace, Jim B Dude, there are only two, slightly different, definitions of "income" in the Merriam-Webster Dictionary. You may choose tu use the first to base your taxes on, I will use the second. And, no, it is NOT needed to include a definition of each and every word. Clinton's "is" defense was seen for what it was...a desperate attempt to distract the court from it's true course. It didn't work. I challenge YOU to try to get out of paying income tax by claiming the word "income" is not defined in the tax code. People much better versed in the law than you and I will decide your fate. Let us know how it turns out. HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites jimbrown 0 #20 April 29, 2011 Quote Quote Quote Quote I challenge any and all to provide the definition of "income" as defined within the Income Tax code. If you can't I wonder why you pay "income " tax every year? Are you required? Peace, Jim B. Don't have to. There is no need to define "income" in tax codes. There is, however, an explaination of types of income and what they mean. "income" itself doesn't need to be to be legitimized anymore than the word "the". See, nanook , and this is why you are well ..you.LOL! Not meaning to single you out and obviously even an elite(!) ,a member of the board, an officer of the court is dumbstruck here! That's OK! I , Jim B, am here to enlighten you. I will unravel all this legal mess and leave your bedsheets folded crisply and clean so that tonight you can get a good nights sleep. Now here is an interesting fact; when laws are written it is necessary to also include a table of definitions in the statute because quite often the words in the statute aren't meanin' what you and I would commonly believe them to mean. It's the whole lawyer thing but do you realize that sometimes a corporation could be referred to as a" person"? Yes. that's very true. Bill Clinton based his entire defense on "the meaning of *is*"! When it comes to matters of law definitions are paramount1 So once again for all of you who know so damn much about every friggin' subject and every world situation , can anyone of you show us the definition of "income" within the tax code? Peace, Jim B Dude, there are only two, slightly different, definitions of "income" in the Merriam-Webster Dictionary. You may choose tu use the first to base your taxes on, I will use the second. And, no, it is NOT needed to include a definition of each and every word. Clinton's "is" defense was seen for what it was...a desperate attempt to distract the court from it's true course. It didn't work. I challenge YOU to try to get out of paying income tax by claiming the word "income" is not defined in the tax code. People much better versed in the law than you and I will decide your fate. Let us know how it turns out. Again, another of the misinformed masses weighs in with his DZ.com opinion . Listen Belgian Draft, Clinton did pretty well with his definition of "is" defense. Would it interest you to know how State is defined in the tax code? Here ya go big guy, "to include the District of Columbia". Yes they define state in the income tax code but not "Income"? LOL!! For some one who hasn't been drinking the flouridated water it's easy but so many are just so thirsty! Oh do you realize that that definition of state excludes any of the 50 states of the union? Yes that is very true. By their defining state as including *x* they have excluded the rest of the alphabet as states! Wrap your nonlawyer brain around that piece of liver! Show the definition within the code. Should be easy right? Peace, Jim B Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites billvon 2,991 #21 April 29, 2011 > I challenge any and all to provide the definition of "income" as defined >within the Income Tax code. I challenge you to prove that your money is your own! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites jimbrown 0 #22 April 29, 2011 Quote> I challenge any and all to provide the definition of "income" as defined >within the Income Tax code. I challenge you to prove that your money is your own! Money? It's just an illusion. It can be taken away from you as fast as they can fire up the presses to make more! No , money isn't yours and never will be. That is why it is so important to work toward self sufficiency! Have I told you about my Americana? She has a lot more value to me than a federal reserve note/ Peace, Jim B Peace, Jim B Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites lawrocket 3 #23 April 29, 2011 If I asked you whether you lacked capacity to look at this issue rationally, would your answer to that question be the same as your answer to this question? My wife is hotter than your wife. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites jimbrown 0 #24 April 29, 2011 QuoteIf I asked you whether you lacked capacity to look at this issue rationally, would your answer to that question be the same as your answer to this question? LOL!!! Could you rephrase the question ,Counselor? Peace , Jim B Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Kennedy 0 #25 April 29, 2011 QuoteYes they define state in the income tax code but not "Income"? LOL!! What the he'll are you going on about? The definition on income, as listed under title 26, section 61, has been posted for you already, not once but twice. TITLE 26, Subtitle A, CHAPTER 1, Subchapter B, PART I, Sec. 61. Sec. 61. Gross income defined (a) General definition Except as otherwise provided in this subtitle, gross income means all income from whatever source derived, including (but not limited to) the following items: (1) Compensation for services, including fees, commissions, fringe benefits, and similar items; (2) Gross income derived from business; (3) Gains derived from dealings in property; (4) Interest; (5) Rents; (6) Royalties; (7) Dividends; (8) Alimony and separate maintenance payments; (9) Annuities; (10) Income from life insurance and endowment contracts; (11) Pensions; (12) Income from discharge of indebtedness; (13) Distributive share of partnership gross income; (14) Income in respect of a decedent; and (15) Income from an interest in an estate or trust. (b) Cross references For items specifically included in gross income, see part II (sec. 71 and following). For items specifically excluded from gross income, see part III (sec. 101 and following). So the definition is in the code. 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Belgian_Draft 0 #4 April 29, 2011 http://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-drop/rr-07-19.pdf Where's my prize? HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryoder 1,590 #5 April 29, 2011 Quote http://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-drop/rr-07-19.pdf Where's my prize? That link it to an authoritative source, so it must automatically be ruled out."There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 2 #6 April 29, 2011 Quote haven't you already asked this question on 3 or 4 other threads? Yes. Quote you have to let time pass in between incantations. You misspelled "incarnations". Oh, I crack myself up. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jimbrown 0 #7 April 29, 2011 Quote http://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-drop/rr-07-19.pdf Where's my prize? Sorry, That's not from the tax code but we have some nice consolation prizes for you out back . And feel free to try again! Peace, Jim B. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 2 #8 April 29, 2011 QuoteI challenge any and all to provide the definition of "income" as defined within the Income Tax code. Yawn. No problemo. Here it is: http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/26/usc_sup_01_26_10_A_20_1_30_B_40_I.html Click on each sub-link, e.g., §61, §62, etc. Now back to my beer. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jimbrown 0 #9 April 29, 2011 Quote Quote http://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-drop/rr-07-19.pdf Where's my prize? That link it to an authoritative source, so it must automatically be ruled out. It's not from the tax code so as much as you might hate it that you have been duped...., it doesn't count as law. Hery!!! you could participate and try to find the definition *within the tax code* . Or you could just continue to pay because you are ignorant of the law. Peace, Jim B Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jimbrown 0 #10 April 29, 2011 QuoteQuoteI challenge any and all to provide the definition of "income" as defined within the Income Tax code. Yawn. No problemo. Here it is: http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/26/usc_sup_01_26_10_A_20_1_30_B_40_I.html Click on each sub-link, e.g., §61, §62, etc. Now back to my beer. Sorry Andy, You can't define a word by using the word in it's own definition. I'm not looking for the definition of "gross income " but "income". Happy hunting. Try again! Peace, Jim B Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 2 #11 April 29, 2011 Quoteit doesn't count as law. You're completely full of shit. You don't merit the waste of energy to argue with your nuttiness. Go back to enjoying the fish. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
david3 0 #12 April 29, 2011 Quotehaven't you already asked this question on 3 or 4 other threads? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sfv3kBzJZgU Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryoder 1,590 #13 April 29, 2011 QuoteQuotehaven't you already asked this question on 3 or 4 other threads? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sfv3kBzJZgU Another relevant link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tilting_at_windmills"There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
david3 0 #14 April 29, 2011 QuoteQuoteQuotehaven't you already asked this question on 3 or 4 other threads? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sfv3kBzJZgU Another relevant link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tilting_at_windmills Yes I like yours better. Don Jardine Quixote Fair Winds and Unlimited Ceilings Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nanook 1 #15 April 29, 2011 Quote I challenge any and all to provide the definition of "income" as defined within the Income Tax code. If you can't I wonder why you pay "income " tax every year? Are you required? Peace, Jim B. Don't have to. There is no need to define "income" in tax codes. There is, however, an explaination of types of income and what they mean. "income" itself doesn't need to be to be legitimized anymore than the word "the"._____________________________ "The trouble with quotes on the internet is that you can never know if they are genuine" - Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kennedy 0 #16 April 29, 2011 Wow, that was tough, huh? Wikipedia: Income (United States legal definitions) If you want to get technical, you can check in with these folks. http://www.fasb.org/home For a government plain language definition you can got the the IRS 1040, or related gov sites. http://www.hud.gov/offices/cpd/affordablehousing/training/web/calculator/definitions/irs.cfm QuoteThis lists the inclusions and exclusions of IRS Form 1040 income. Inclusions Wages, salaries, tips, etc. Taxable interest. Dividends. Taxable refunds, credits or offsets of State and local income taxes. There are some exceptions - refer to Form 1040 instructions. Alimony (or separate maintenance payments) received. Business income (or loss). Capital gain (or loss). Other gains (or losses) (i.e., assets used in a trade or business that were exchanged or sold). Taxable amount of individual retirement account (IRA) distributions. (Includes simplified employee pension [SEP] and savings incentive match plan for employees [SIMPLE] IRA.) Taxable amount of pension and annuity payments. Rental real estate, royalties, partnerships, S corporations, trusts, etc. Farm income (or loss). Unemployment compensation payments. Taxable amount of Social Security benefits. Other income. (Includes: prizes and awards; gambling, lottery or raffle winnings; jury duty fees; Alaska Permanent fund dividends; reimbursements for amounts deducted in previous years; income from the rental of property if not in the business of renting such property; and income from an activity not engaged in for profit). Exclusions Child support. Money or property that was inherited, willed or given as a gift. Life insurance proceeds received as a result of someone's death Per the Supreme Court, income in the legal sense is given its common meaning. See the Eisner v. Macomber case. But then I'm expecting you to read and comprehend legal text and court decision. I really should know better. Oh wait, the SCOTUS is a federal court, and you think tht means they can't rule on federal tax law. Andy was right. While it's fun to show how easy it is to answer your questions, arguing with you is completely pointless. Get back under your bridge.witty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1* Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Belgian_Draft 0 #17 April 29, 2011 Quote Quote http://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-drop/rr-07-19.pdf Where's my prize? Sorry, That's not from the tax code but we have some nice consolation prizes for you out back . And feel free to try again! Peace, Jim B. Sorry, you are wrong. Go here http://www.fourmilab.ch/uscode/26usc/ Click on the button that says "Sections" That will take you here http://www.fourmilab.ch/uscode/26usc/www/sections.html Click on 61 and tell us what you see. While viewing please keep in mind that it is the US Tax Code you are reading. Have fun!HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jimbrown 0 #18 April 29, 2011 QuoteQuote I challenge any and all to provide the definition of "income" as defined within the Income Tax code. If you can't I wonder why you pay "income " tax every year? Are you required? Peace, Jim B. Don't have to. There is no need to define "income" in tax codes. There is, however, an explaination of types of income and what they mean. "income" itself doesn't need to be to be legitimized anymore than the word "the". See, nanook , and this is why you are well ..you.LOL! Not meaning to single you out and obviously even an elite(!) ,a member of the board, an officer of the court is dumbstruck here! That's OK! I , Jim B, am here to enlighten you. I will unravel all this legal mess and leave your bedsheets folded crisply and clean so that tonight you can get a good nights sleep. Now here is an interesting fact; when laws are written it is necessary to also include a table of definitions in the statute because quite often the words in the statute aren't meanin' what you and I would commonly believe them to mean. It's the whole lawyer thing but do you realize that sometimes a corporation could be referred to as a" person"? Yes. that's very true. Bill Clinton based his entire defense on "the meaning of *is*"! When it comes to matters of law definitions are paramount1 So once again for all of you who know so damn much about every friggin' subject and every world situation , can anyone of you show us the definition of "income" within the tax code? Peace, Jim B Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Belgian_Draft 0 #19 April 29, 2011 Quote Quote Quote I challenge any and all to provide the definition of "income" as defined within the Income Tax code. If you can't I wonder why you pay "income " tax every year? Are you required? Peace, Jim B. Don't have to. There is no need to define "income" in tax codes. There is, however, an explaination of types of income and what they mean. "income" itself doesn't need to be to be legitimized anymore than the word "the". See, nanook , and this is why you are well ..you.LOL! Not meaning to single you out and obviously even an elite(!) ,a member of the board, an officer of the court is dumbstruck here! That's OK! I , Jim B, am here to enlighten you. I will unravel all this legal mess and leave your bedsheets folded crisply and clean so that tonight you can get a good nights sleep. Now here is an interesting fact; when laws are written it is necessary to also include a table of definitions in the statute because quite often the words in the statute aren't meanin' what you and I would commonly believe them to mean. It's the whole lawyer thing but do you realize that sometimes a corporation could be referred to as a" person"? Yes. that's very true. Bill Clinton based his entire defense on "the meaning of *is*"! When it comes to matters of law definitions are paramount1 So once again for all of you who know so damn much about every friggin' subject and every world situation , can anyone of you show us the definition of "income" within the tax code? Peace, Jim B Dude, there are only two, slightly different, definitions of "income" in the Merriam-Webster Dictionary. You may choose tu use the first to base your taxes on, I will use the second. And, no, it is NOT needed to include a definition of each and every word. Clinton's "is" defense was seen for what it was...a desperate attempt to distract the court from it's true course. It didn't work. I challenge YOU to try to get out of paying income tax by claiming the word "income" is not defined in the tax code. People much better versed in the law than you and I will decide your fate. Let us know how it turns out. HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jimbrown 0 #20 April 29, 2011 Quote Quote Quote Quote I challenge any and all to provide the definition of "income" as defined within the Income Tax code. If you can't I wonder why you pay "income " tax every year? Are you required? Peace, Jim B. Don't have to. There is no need to define "income" in tax codes. There is, however, an explaination of types of income and what they mean. "income" itself doesn't need to be to be legitimized anymore than the word "the". See, nanook , and this is why you are well ..you.LOL! Not meaning to single you out and obviously even an elite(!) ,a member of the board, an officer of the court is dumbstruck here! That's OK! I , Jim B, am here to enlighten you. I will unravel all this legal mess and leave your bedsheets folded crisply and clean so that tonight you can get a good nights sleep. Now here is an interesting fact; when laws are written it is necessary to also include a table of definitions in the statute because quite often the words in the statute aren't meanin' what you and I would commonly believe them to mean. It's the whole lawyer thing but do you realize that sometimes a corporation could be referred to as a" person"? Yes. that's very true. Bill Clinton based his entire defense on "the meaning of *is*"! When it comes to matters of law definitions are paramount1 So once again for all of you who know so damn much about every friggin' subject and every world situation , can anyone of you show us the definition of "income" within the tax code? Peace, Jim B Dude, there are only two, slightly different, definitions of "income" in the Merriam-Webster Dictionary. You may choose tu use the first to base your taxes on, I will use the second. And, no, it is NOT needed to include a definition of each and every word. Clinton's "is" defense was seen for what it was...a desperate attempt to distract the court from it's true course. It didn't work. I challenge YOU to try to get out of paying income tax by claiming the word "income" is not defined in the tax code. People much better versed in the law than you and I will decide your fate. Let us know how it turns out. Again, another of the misinformed masses weighs in with his DZ.com opinion . Listen Belgian Draft, Clinton did pretty well with his definition of "is" defense. Would it interest you to know how State is defined in the tax code? Here ya go big guy, "to include the District of Columbia". Yes they define state in the income tax code but not "Income"? LOL!! For some one who hasn't been drinking the flouridated water it's easy but so many are just so thirsty! Oh do you realize that that definition of state excludes any of the 50 states of the union? Yes that is very true. By their defining state as including *x* they have excluded the rest of the alphabet as states! Wrap your nonlawyer brain around that piece of liver! Show the definition within the code. Should be easy right? Peace, Jim B Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,991 #21 April 29, 2011 > I challenge any and all to provide the definition of "income" as defined >within the Income Tax code. I challenge you to prove that your money is your own! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jimbrown 0 #22 April 29, 2011 Quote> I challenge any and all to provide the definition of "income" as defined >within the Income Tax code. I challenge you to prove that your money is your own! Money? It's just an illusion. It can be taken away from you as fast as they can fire up the presses to make more! No , money isn't yours and never will be. That is why it is so important to work toward self sufficiency! Have I told you about my Americana? She has a lot more value to me than a federal reserve note/ Peace, Jim B Peace, Jim B Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lawrocket 3 #23 April 29, 2011 If I asked you whether you lacked capacity to look at this issue rationally, would your answer to that question be the same as your answer to this question? My wife is hotter than your wife. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jimbrown 0 #24 April 29, 2011 QuoteIf I asked you whether you lacked capacity to look at this issue rationally, would your answer to that question be the same as your answer to this question? LOL!!! Could you rephrase the question ,Counselor? Peace , Jim B Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kennedy 0 #25 April 29, 2011 QuoteYes they define state in the income tax code but not "Income"? LOL!! What the he'll are you going on about? The definition on income, as listed under title 26, section 61, has been posted for you already, not once but twice. TITLE 26, Subtitle A, CHAPTER 1, Subchapter B, PART I, Sec. 61. Sec. 61. Gross income defined (a) General definition Except as otherwise provided in this subtitle, gross income means all income from whatever source derived, including (but not limited to) the following items: (1) Compensation for services, including fees, commissions, fringe benefits, and similar items; (2) Gross income derived from business; (3) Gains derived from dealings in property; (4) Interest; (5) Rents; (6) Royalties; (7) Dividends; (8) Alimony and separate maintenance payments; (9) Annuities; (10) Income from life insurance and endowment contracts; (11) Pensions; (12) Income from discharge of indebtedness; (13) Distributive share of partnership gross income; (14) Income in respect of a decedent; and (15) Income from an interest in an estate or trust. (b) Cross references For items specifically included in gross income, see part II (sec. 71 and following). For items specifically excluded from gross income, see part III (sec. 101 and following). So the definition is in the code. Next topic.witty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1* Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
