rushmc 23 #401 May 4, 2011 Is it some type of weird fetish I don't know about? I guess, if saving peoples lives is a fetish to you"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
434 2 #402 May 4, 2011 I can see his smile like he had when he said something like back in the western time Dead or alive! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SpeedRacer 1 #403 May 4, 2011 Quote Along those lines I wonder what the talking points would be today had it been Bush (this week), that went into another country, with out that countries knowledge or permission, with out a UN resolution ,or the support or knowledge of congress, and performed a military operation killing people in that country? Ya just gotta wonder If Bush had done this same operation, I would have fully supported it. Taking out the leader of AQ is the main thing, no matter which party is in the Whitehouse. Speed Racer -------------------------------------------------- Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #404 May 4, 2011 Quote Along those lines I wonder what the talking points would be today had it been Bush (this week), that went into another country, with out that countries knowledge or permission, with out a UN resolution ,or the support or knowledge of congress, and performed a military operation killing people in that country? Ya just gotta wonder Marc.. he did.... and like everything else W did in his life... he FUCKED IT UP. His past performance in business should have been an indicator of how W would perform the duties of the President... Afghanistan.... fucked up ... oh look something shiny in Iraq Iraq ... Fucked up ....We will be welcomed as liberators and finally rig the world of his WMD Economy ... fucked up ... what part of balancing any kind of budget did he ever even attempt.. oh thats right.. we can spend whatever we want... because we will all be raptured out of here any day now.... stupid motherfuckers Speaking... always.... you guessed it.... fucked up. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #405 May 4, 2011 Quote Quote Along those lines I wonder what the talking points would be today had it been Bush (this week), that went into another country, with out that countries knowledge or permission, with out a UN resolution ,or the support or knowledge of congress, and performed a military operation killing people in that country? Ya just gotta wonder If Bush had done this same operation, I would have fully supported it. Taking out the leader of AQ is the main thing, no matter which party is in the Whitehouse. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4PGmnz5Ow-o Oh look something shiny in Irag.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #406 May 4, 2011 Quote Quote Along those lines I wonder what the talking points would be today had it been Bush (this week), that went into another country, with out that countries knowledge or permission, with out a UN resolution ,or the support or knowledge of congress, and performed a military operation killing people in that country? Ya just gotta wonder Marc.. he did.... and like everything else W did in his life... he FUCKED IT UP. His past performance in business should have been an indicator of how W would perform the duties of the President... Afghanistan.... fucked up ... oh look something shiny in Iraq Iraq ... Fucked up ....We will be welcomed as liberators and finally rig the world of his WMD Economy ... fucked up ... what part of balancing any kind of budget did he ever even attempt.. oh thats right.. we can spend whatever we want... because we will all be raptured out of here any day now.... stupid motherfuckers Speaking... always.... you guessed it.... fucked up. And here we finally have it A tempored and sane post in the thread"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #407 May 4, 2011 Quote Quote Along those lines I wonder what the talking points would be today had it been Bush (this week), that went into another country, with out that countries knowledge or permission, with out a UN resolution ,or the support or knowledge of congress, and performed a military operation killing people in that country? Ya just gotta wonder If Bush had done this same operation, I would have fully supported it. Taking out the leader of AQ is the main thing, no matter which party is in the Whitehouse. As I do now But, I feel confident in saying that how it is playing out in the medial today in not what would be happening if it had not been Obama in the WH"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
freethefly 6 #408 May 4, 2011 I think you are wrong. Bush had the backing from the American people and the world when he sent troops into Afghanistan. It was only when he backed down and turned his attention to Iraq that he dumbfounded the American people and the world. It made no sense. Thousands of people died as a result of his bravado. The same would be felt of Obama, had he done the same."...And once you're gone, you can't come back When you're out of the blue and into the black." Neil Young Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #409 May 4, 2011 QuoteI think you are wrong. Bush had the backing from the American people and the world when he sent troops into Afghanistan. It was only when he backed down and turned his attention to Iraq that he dumbfounded the American people and the world. It made no sense. Thousands of people died as a result of his bravado. The same would be felt of Obama, had he done the same. We will agree to disagree then"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airdvr 210 #410 May 4, 2011 Quote It was only when he backed down and turned his attention to Iraq that he dumbfounded the American people and the world. It made no sense. Perhaps that's true for you and your friends. That's a whole 'nother thread already on here somewhere.Please don't dent the planet. Destinations by Roxanne Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #411 May 4, 2011 Quote Quote Quote Along those lines I wonder what the talking points would be today had it been Bush (this week), that went into another country, with out that countries knowledge or permission, with out a UN resolution ,or the support or knowledge of congress, and performed a military operation killing people in that country? Ya just gotta wonder Marc.. he did.... and like everything else W did in his life... he FUCKED IT UP. His past performance in business should have been an indicator of how W would perform the duties of the President... Afghanistan.... fucked up ... oh look something shiny in Iraq Iraq ... Fucked up ....We will be welcomed as liberators and finally rig the world of his WMD Economy ... fucked up ... what part of balancing any kind of budget did he ever even attempt.. oh thats right.. we can spend whatever we want... because we will all be raptured out of here any day now.... stupid motherfuckers Speaking... always.... you guessed it.... fucked up. And here we finally have it A tempored and sane post in the thread Marc only you and Mike and the rest of your fellow travelers could ever possibly think of GWB as brilliant Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #412 May 4, 2011 Quote Quote Quote Quote Along those lines I wonder what the talking points would be today had it been Bush (this week), that went into another country, with out that countries knowledge or permission, with out a UN resolution ,or the support or knowledge of congress, and performed a military operation killing people in that country? Ya just gotta wonder Marc.. he did.... and like everything else W did in his life... he FUCKED IT UP. His past performance in business should have been an indicator of how W would perform the duties of the President... Afghanistan.... fucked up ... oh look something shiny in Iraq Iraq ... Fucked up ....We will be welcomed as liberators and finally rig the world of his WMD Economy ... fucked up ... what part of balancing any kind of budget did he ever even attempt.. oh thats right.. we can spend whatever we want... because we will all be raptured out of here any day now.... stupid motherfuckers Speaking... always.... you guessed it.... fucked up. And here we finally have it A tempored and sane post in the thread Marc only you and Mike and the rest of your fellow travelers could ever possibly think of GWB as brilliant And now another thanks for playing"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,026 #413 May 4, 2011 QuoteQuoteI think you are wrong. Bush had the backing from the American people and the world when he sent troops into Afghanistan. It was only when he backed down and turned his attention to Iraq that he dumbfounded the American people and the world. It made no sense. Thousands of people died as a result of his bravado. The same would be felt of Obama, had he done the same. We will agree to disagree then You can disagree all you want. Fortunately DZ.COM keeps an archive of past posts: he is correct and you are wrong.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DanG 1 #414 May 4, 2011 QuoteAlong those lines I wonder what the talking points would be today had it been Bush (this week), that went into another country, with out that countries knowledge or permission, with out a UN resolution ,or the support or knowledge of congress, and performed a military operation killing people in that country? Ya just gotta wonder If he killed OBL? Probably the same as they are for Obama. - Dan G Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,026 #415 May 4, 2011 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteCall me unpatriotic, I'm ready for a bashing and some nasty PM's, but this event really hasn't changed my life at all... ...or Obamas chances of getting re-elected I think it has improved those chances somewhat, but it certainly doesn't make the outcome a slam-dunk by any means. Blues Dave 1 point bounce today Will not mean anything in less than 3 weeks www.reuters.com/article/2011/05/04/us-binladen-usa-polls-idUSTRE7433UI20110504... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DaVinci 0 #416 May 4, 2011 QuoteCaptured documents in the compound may provide a quicker way of getting info. Could have had BOTH. I personally wished he was captured. News reports now show he was unarmed when shot. Of course, I do not grieve for him being dead either. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DaVinci 0 #417 May 4, 2011 QuoteYou aren't very good with definitions, are you? Better than you. QuoteUnfortunately you aren't entitled to invent your own definitions of words so you can win debates. That is a tactic out of YOUR playbook BTW. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jclalor 12 #418 May 4, 2011 Quote Quote Quote So last night my x was playing bingo when it was announce that Bin laden was killed. The person making the announcement made the common mistake of referring to Bin Laden as "Obama' Stating that Obama has just been shot and killed, She was shocked at the number of people who applauded. There was then a moment of confusion until they announced the correct name. I have heard and made that same mistake As for the clapping? It does not pass the sniff test IMO It does not pass your sniff test? Imagine that. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DaVinci 0 #419 May 4, 2011 QuoteCould it be that she was addressing exactly that documented and reported glob of people celebrating and not the misdirection of might-have-beens you listed? She also said, "If I had to use deadly force, I would not be cheerful/celebrating after doing so..." So unless the DEVGRU has females, or she works in the WH.... The general application applies. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #420 May 4, 2011 Quote Quote Quote Quote So last night my x was playing bingo when it was announce that Bin laden was killed. The person making the announcement made the common mistake of referring to Bin Laden as "Obama' Stating that Obama has just been shot and killed, She was shocked at the number of people who applauded. There was then a moment of confusion until they announced the correct name. I have heard and made that same mistake As for the clapping? It does not pass the sniff test IMO It does not pass your sniff test? Imagine that. sorry you cant handle the bull shit flag"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DaVinci 0 #421 May 4, 2011 QuoteForget about bin Laden for a minute. Why is it OK to put a bullet in a terrorists brain but not OK to waterboard him? For the exact same reason it is OK to shoot a criminal in the middle of an arrest if he fights back, but it is not OK to hook a car battery up to his balls once back at the station. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shropshire 0 #422 May 4, 2011 QuoteQuoteForget about bin Laden for a minute. Why is it OK to put a bullet in a terrorists brain but not OK to waterboard him? For the exact same reason it is OK to shoot a criminal in the middle of an arrest if he fights back, but it is not OK to hook a car battery up to his balls once back at the station. What if the criminal is NOT fighting back? (.)Y(.) Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DaVinci 0 #423 May 4, 2011 QuoteI have to wonder what the ramifications will be of invading another country will be... time will tell I guess. I'd bet almost nothing. They will rattle a bit, but they will not get too upset since they would not want to look as if they were defending him in any way. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jaybird18c 24 #424 May 4, 2011 QuoteQuoteForget about bin Laden for a minute. Why is it OK to put a bullet in a terrorists brain but not OK to waterboard him? For the exact same reason it is OK to shoot a criminal in the middle of an arrest if he fights back, but it is not OK to hook a car battery up to his balls once back at the station. I'd opt for the battery if he had actionable info that would save the lives of my guys. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DaVinci 0 #425 May 4, 2011 QuoteBush lacked the will to get Bin Laden and focused on an easy target. Oh geeze..... The fact is that it was 2005 or so that OBL was able to settle down and stay in one place. If you think for one second that Bush would have done nothing if he had intel of OBL's position... Well you are smoking something. Giving credit to Obama... He did very well. But please, cut your Bush bashing to something a bit more realistic. Why did Obama send in a team instead of blasting the compound? Simple, we were not SURE he was there AND it was in a 'friendly' country. Dropping a bomb on a compound in a friendly country without 100% proof of OBL being there would be an act of war. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites