Suppose it resulted in gaining information that stopped a terrorist attack that saved 10,000 lives? Would it be worth it then? I guess we will never know.
QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteDo you think Osama was defenseless and slept until shot?
I believe the WH when they say he was not armed.
Define "armed"?
Does that mean he has to be holding one at the exact moment or if he had an AK-47 within reach, would that suffice?
Why don't you ask one of your "sources"? I can only go by what Senior Defense Officials have said.QuoteWASHINGTON (AP) -- The Americans who raided Osama bin Laden's lair met far less resistance than the Obama administration described in the aftermath. The commandos encountered gunshots from only one man, whom they quickly killed, before sweeping the house and shooting others, who were unarmed, a senior defense official said in the latest account.
In Thursday's revised telling, the Navy SEALs mounted a precision, floor-by-floor operation to find the al-Qaida leader and his protectors - but without the prolonged and intense firefight that officials had described for several days.
http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_BIN_LADEN?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2011-05-05-09-23-57
I'm assuming the AP is an acceptable source for you?
From the SAME ARTICLE you just quoted.QuoteThe issue of who among the bin Laden group was armed can be a matter of interpretation. To a soldier - and particularly in the case of the SEALs confronting the world's most wanted terrorist - an empty-handed person with a weapon nearby can be considered an armed threat.
Problem is we have nobody who says this happened here. Unless you are now claiming one of your "Sources" is claiming this.
muff528 3
Why do we even know about this raid. I'm just a little surprised that we were told anything this soon. I would have thought that we would have kept a lid on the whole incident ...at least until we had a chance to analyze some of the intel without showing our hand. Also, keeping it secret would have provided some insight with regard to who knew what by observing reactions from various "players" as the Pakistani gov't investigated the aftermath and details were released by them. As far as the action itself, it seems to me that the only way Osama would have been taken prisoner is if there was complete cooperation. I think that if there was even the slightest possibility of losing him they were to take him out. I don't care either way. Good job! to all involved.
The Pakistanis would have known right away. The Americans only took Osama's body, leaving the others behind for the Pakistanis. They must have arrived on the scene soon afterwards, and would have found out.
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Yeah, the tail of that Stealth Helicopter laying in the yard would have given it away. 
muff528 3
QuoteThe Pakistanis would have known right away. The Americans only took Osama's body, leaving the others behind for the Pakistanis. They must have arrived on the scene soon afterwards, and would have found out.
But! ...would they (Pakistani authorities) have known that Bin Laden had been there for years? They "shouldn't" have known, and if they are to be believed they didn't, but I wonder how they would have reacted if they did know but didn't want to admit they knew? (I believe they did.)
muff528 3
QuoteYeah, the tail of that Stealth Helicopter laying in the yard would have given it away.
How would that have given away the fact that (specifically) Osama was there?
Edit to add: I did forget that there were survivors.
Yes, there were child and adult survivors, that's my point. And I don't believe that it is necessarily true that everyone of the Pakistani authorities who arrived on the scene would have been in on the secret. Osama would surely restrict knowledge of his whereabouts, not tell everyone in the ISI.
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muff528 3
QuoteYes, there were child and adult survivors, that's my point. And I don't believe that it is necessarily true that everyone of the Pakistani authorities who arrived on the scene would have been in on the secret. Osama would surely restrict knowledge of his whereabouts, not tell everyone in the ISI.
I'm sure that not every Pakistani cop or soldier would have known. By "authorities" I meant high gov't officer, president, etc. I don't think the "investigators" who worked the scene (in the absence of any survivors) would have said. "OMG, where's Osama!" Moot point anyway. "We" still should have kept it secret for awhile, IMO.
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QuoteQuoteQuoteSomehow I get the feeling that many of the Obama haters would had loved to had seen the SEAL Team blown away by al-Qaeda so as to use it against Obama.
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Dont you agree that only someone really sick in the @#&%ing head would feel this way?
Look in the miror fella
You are the one that brought it up
Hey, that reminds me, do you still have your "Stupid" reflecting mirror on your wall? The one that you used to boast of in your sig.
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kallend 2,027
You are so DESPERATE to find fault with Obama it's funny. Your posts reflect far worse on you than they do on anyone else.
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