quade 4 #1 May 11, 2011 Dear bin Laden Family, Suck it. http://www.cnn.com/2011/WORLD/asiapcf/05/11/pakistan.bin.laden/index.htmlquade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KidWicked 0 #2 May 11, 2011 QuoteDear bin Laden Family, Suck it. http://www.cnn.com/2011/WORLD/asiapcf/05/11/pakistan.bin.laden/index.html You can't understand the need for someone to want to know about the death of one of their parents?Coreece: "You sound like some skinheads I know, but your prejudice is with Christians, not niggers..." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #3 May 11, 2011 QuoteQuoteDear bin Laden Family, Suck it. http://www.cnn.com/2011/WORLD/asiapcf/05/11/pakistan.bin.laden/index.html You can't understand the need for someone to want to know about the death of one of their parents? I understand more about the families of 3000 innocent people wanting to bring justice to the leader of the terrorist organization that killed their loved ones for no reason whatsoever. I have no sympathy for the bin Laden family. They knew precisely what he was up to. If they doubt his death, then they can try to contact him the way they always have and see how far they get. They, and the Saudi "royal" family that financed him, can also suck my balls.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
virgin-burner 1 #4 May 11, 2011 i wonder what the tens of thousand civilists in iraq would tell you.. but hey, they're just some fucking ragheads, right? who cares about them?“Some may never live, but the crazy never die.” -Hunter S. Thompson "No. Try not. Do... or do not. There is no try." -Yoda Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #5 May 11, 2011 Quotei wonder what the tens of thousand civilists in iraq would tell you.. but hey, they're just some fucking ragheads, right? who cares about them? Understand I was never a fan of going into Iraq and didn't support it. Iraq was not my concern. Finding bin Laden was. If "tens of thousand civilists in iraq" have a beef with the 43rd President of the US and wanted to bring an international human rights case to trial then let them do so. That said, it's still not the same thing. Bin Laden was the head of a terrorist organization and responsible for killing thousands of people. I simply will not shed a tear on his behalf and those that do should not be surprised at all at how he met his end. Here's a tip for all the families of terrorists out there, don't be surprised when the US SEAL Team takes out your murdering, piece of shit relative.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
loumeinhart 0 #6 May 11, 2011 Quoteragheads towel heads dude Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
virgin-burner 1 #7 May 11, 2011 did bin laden get a trial? how would you feel if a terrorist team would take the bushes out? that wouldnt be quite the same, would it!?“Some may never live, but the crazy never die.” -Hunter S. Thompson "No. Try not. Do... or do not. There is no try." -Yoda Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #8 May 11, 2011 Quotehow would you feel if a terrorist team would take the bushes out? You're calling the SEALs terrorists?quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
popsjumper 2 #9 May 11, 2011 QuoteQuotehow would you feel if a terrorist team would take the bushes out? You're calling the SEALs terrorists? Speaking for myself: As to the family and those in the house at the time, yes, I would liken that they are. There are parallels from both sides of the war/dispute. Nothing makes one any more or less a "terroristic act" than the other. What's going on here is that you are showing that you have no ability to empathize. It doesn't appear that you can understand how the family must feel. So..answer his question....My reality and yours are quite different. I think we're all Bozos on this bus. Falcon5232, SCS8170, SCSA353, POPS9398, DS239 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sfzombie 3 #10 May 11, 2011 i have to say that when we start ignoring the laws we have in place and shooting unarmed people for making a "threatening gesture", then we are the same as the terrorists we are hunting. end of story, no argument there. when you ignore one rule in one case, it only gets easier the next time. i didn't like the guy, or agree with anything he said, but that doesn't give me the right to kill him. we'll never know what really happened. and it's a lot easier to second guess the results of this operationwith all of the time in the world to form an opinion. that's not how these types of things go down, however. without inside knowledge we'll never have, there is no way to logically make the determination that anything happened that was not supposed to happen. they could have been ordered to kill him.http://kitswv.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
virgin-burner 1 #11 May 11, 2011 how do you think the iraquis mentioned above would call the people that brought terror to their homes? and their leader(s) would have been? however, let's not get lost in semantics here.. and how and when was there a trial for bin laden? dont get me wrong, osama got what he deserved, it still doesnt change the fact that a team of whatever raided a place without justification and killed him. so again, what if a team of whatever came to the bush-farm and shot him in the head? i mean, they'd have at least ten- or hundredfold the justification to do so. how would you feel about that? and while we're at it, by your OP, since the bin laden-family can go fuck themselves, the families of the iraqui civilian "casualties", can they go fuck themselves too? is that how it works, only american life is precious? i'm just trying to find out what your way of thinking is.. anyway,i think your post was in VERY bad taste, i'd expect something else from you, ESPECIALLY since u're a mod on here..“Some may never live, but the crazy never die.” -Hunter S. Thompson "No. Try not. Do... or do not. There is no try." -Yoda Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryoder 1,590 #12 May 11, 2011 Quotei wonder what the tens of thousand civilists in iraq would tell you.. but hey, they're just some fucking ragheads, right? who cares about them? Why are you bringing up Iraq in a thread about Bin Laden???"There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryoder 1,590 #13 May 11, 2011 Quotei have to say that when we start ignoring the laws we have in place and shooting unarmed people for making a "threatening gesture", then we are the same as the terrorists we are hunting. end of story, no argument there. when you ignore one rule in one case, it only gets easier the next time. i didn't like the guy, or agree with anything he said, but that doesn't give me the right to kill him. we'll never know what really happened. and it's a lot easier to second guess the results of this operationwith all of the time in the world to form an opinion. that's not how these types of things go down, however. without inside knowledge we'll never have, there is no way to logically make the determination that anything happened that was not supposed to happen. they could have been ordered to kill him. Rules of engagement: http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/newsdesk/2011/05/bin-laden-the-rules-of-engagement.html"There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
virgin-burner 1 #14 May 11, 2011 well, bin laden is responsible for killing 3000 innocent civilians in the states. bush is responsible for killing 30'000 (or how much was it? does anyone even know?) innocent civilians in iraq. both did so in an unjustified war. i think the situation is pretty comparable..“Some may never live, but the crazy never die.” -Hunter S. Thompson "No. Try not. Do... or do not. There is no try." -Yoda Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
virgin-burner 1 #15 May 11, 2011 Quote Quote i have to say that when we start ignoring the laws we have in place and shooting unarmed people for making a "threatening gesture", then we are the same as the terrorists we are hunting. end of story, no argument there. when you ignore one rule in one case, it only gets easier the next time. i didn't like the guy, or agree with anything he said, but that doesn't give me the right to kill him. we'll never know what really happened. and it's a lot easier to second guess the results of this operationwith all of the time in the world to form an opinion. that's not how these types of things go down, however. without inside knowledge we'll never have, there is no way to logically make the determination that anything happened that was not supposed to happen. they could have been ordered to kill him. Rules of engagement: http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/newsdesk/2011/05/bin-laden-the-rules-of-engagement.html havent read through all of it, but one of the commenters brings up a good point: if the US strikes pre-emptively anywhere in the world, in countries they're not at war with, tortures, kidnaps and encarcarates anyone they designate a target - then your boys are no better than every other dictatorship, and instead of "freedom and justice for all", you are fucking up exactly those values. GO USA! “Some may never live, but the crazy never die.” -Hunter S. Thompson "No. Try not. Do... or do not. There is no try." -Yoda Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #16 May 12, 2011 Quotei have to say that when we start ignoring the laws we have in place and shooting unarmed people for making a "threatening gesture", then we are the same as the terrorists we are hunting. end of story, no argument there. when you ignore one rule in one case, it only gets easier the next time. i didn't like the guy, or agree with anything he said, but that doesn't give me the right to kill him. we'll never know what really happened. and it's a lot easier to second guess the results of this operationwith all of the time in the world to form an opinion. that's not how these types of things go down, however. without inside knowledge we'll never have, there is no way to logically make the determination that anything happened that was not supposed to happen. they could have been ordered to kill him. you're doing some serious waffling here. And second guessing, despite admitting to knowing nothing about what happened. But let's start with your opening point, which is wrong. When you're arresting a murderer and he makes a threatening move, yes, you can shoot him. It is not required to be sure that he's doesn't have a concealed gun, knife, or bomb first. You aren't required to gamble your life on a presumption of goodness on the part of the suspect. To bring it back to normal events, if a cop pulls you over for a driving violation, keep your hands visible, don't make sudden movements. Cops do get killed at traffic stops. Their fears are quite valid. And let's not get hung up on the lack of a trial. Had he been arrested, then sure, we can discuss the improper treating of "foreign combatants" without trial. But it would be a damn short trial, as the guy has clearly claimed credit for the 9/11 events and others for years. The only defense would be that he was mentally incompetent and claiming credit for others' crimes. A single evaluation by a shrink and we're done. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
idrankwhat 0 #17 May 12, 2011 Quote I have no sympathy for the bin Laden family. They knew precisely what he was up to. If they doubt his death, then they can try to contact him they way they always have and see how far they get. That's pretty much my take. If they're not convinced and want to try to find him then go ahead but I don't think we need to waste any time or resources helping them. As for the ongoing debate about whether or not he was not an immediate threat when he was killed, does it really matter? Would we be debating the issue if we had blown him up using a Predator? Probably not, and who knows, his wives may have even had him tied up like a defenseless gimp the moment that the missile blew him to pieces. The US has had him targeted for death for a decade and I don't recall anyone questioning that policy, except for maybe his current wives and kids but that should be expected. If I took credit for killing thousands of people and declared war on another country I would expect to be targeted for death. One difference between families though, mine probably would have been quoted as saying "Damn, I hate that he's gone but we knew the nature of the business". Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,990 #18 May 12, 2011 >i have to say that when we start ignoring the laws we have in place and >shooting unarmed people for making a "threatening gesture", then we are >the same as the terrorists we are hunting. And the cops are terrorists, too - they'll shoot a murder suspect if he reaches for something during a firefight when they're telling him to freeze. (Of course, the reason is that they've discovered when they DON'T shoot him they often end up dead themselves.) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DougH 270 #19 May 12, 2011 If you are held at gunpoint you freeze. Anything less than that and you are showing a real disregard for your own life and have no one to blame but yourself."The restraining order says you're only allowed to touch me in freefall" =P Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skyrad 0 #20 May 12, 2011 Quote I understand more about the families of 3000 innocent people wanting to bring justice to the leader of the terrorist organization that killed their loved ones for no reason whatsoever. I have no sympathy for the bin Laden family. They knew precisely what he was up to. If they doubt his death, then they can try to contact him they way they always have and see how far they get. Failing that they could try a Ouija board When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
piisfish 140 #21 May 12, 2011 maybe he was trying to grab a camera to youtube his version of "don't taze me, bro"scissors beat paper, paper beat rock, rock beat wingsuit - KarlM Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skyrad 0 #22 May 12, 2011 Quote Quote ragheads towel heads dude Yea because thats so much betterWhen an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lawrocket 3 #23 May 12, 2011 Quotedid bin laden get a trial? No, he did not. I'm actually somewhat heartened to see that there are people throughout the world who are asking this question. I cannot help but imagine the international (and domestic) uproar over an assassination that was authorized by Bush. I could not help but think that because we have a president of the correct political party (and a Nobel Peace Prize winner, no less) who did had it carried out. The fact that bin Laden is dead is really really convenient. No need for any of those nasty arguments about being detained illegally, kidnapped, etc... He's been eaten by crabs. My personal satisfaction at him taking a water nap is heavily tinged with my abhorrence of political assassination. My wife is hotter than your wife. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wsd 0 #24 May 12, 2011 They cant's tell a dishdash from a shemagh... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fossg 0 #25 May 12, 2011 I read the news of the Bin Laden family's being upset last night.(I know this is a fantasy but just once I would like to see a Pentagon spokesman say " Just what part of FUCK YOU don't you understand???) With a video backgground of the towers going down Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
