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QuoteQuoteWhy do you post your entire riding/gang member history? It has nothing to do with the debate and I really don't give a fuck about your lifestyle.
You started it. You questioned my experience on a motorcycle after I pointed out that traffic laws do little to make people drive safer. You are a prime example. Five close calls in one day? And you blame everyone else? People still ignore the law. You are NOT a biker. By your narrow minded definition, probably not. But the rest of the world thinks differently, including me. You wouldn't last one fucking mile with the big boys. You wouldn't be welcomed. Good! I wouldn't want to be. You have so much hate for people. I do? I wonder who it is that has been giving a good chunk of my income to charities each year? Or doing volunteer work? You advocate putting poison in the poison that is already on the streets solely to kill addicts. It was sarcasm. SARCASM. S-A-R-C-A-S-MWhat kind of black shit flows through your veins? I wouldn't ride with you nor would I even jump with you. You are amongst the worst kind of people I know and even worst. Your hatred towards others is shameful. Sadly your mother did not miscarriage your sad sack ass. And, LOUD PIPES DO SAVE LIVES. Bullshit. It's just another pussy excuse guys like you make up so you can make lots of noise. I believe the medical term is "compensation"
QuoteSure the unions have been behind the push for most legislation that brought about major changes in workplace conditions, but that is moot.
Moot? Your hatred for unions is well known. To say that the hard work of the unions to bring change is moot is about as idiotic as anything you have ever posted. Since we were discussing the effects of legislation the causes of the legislation are moot.
Oh, I did not post my entire history. I posted the history of the Midwest/St. Louis club scene as it is part of my history and that of others who come to this site. It is also part of the history of Harley-Davidson. I am sure that the hardcore riders on this site will find it to be interesting. I am positive that Gypsy is well aware of the history, but may be unaware of the formation of a segment of the outlaw clubs that rode out of the Midwest. Or, he may be aware as he rode out from this area. Normiss might find it interesting as well Aggie Dave. Don't be so high on your fucking horse to think it was for you. I'll point out that the term "Outlaw Biker" has nothing to do with criminal activity. It is a term imposed upon those who do not abide by the rules and regulations of the A.M.A.. It was also the A.M.A. who started the 1%er classification.
P.S. Kindly shove your hate up your ass. Seems you're the one full of hate. Yelling at people from your bike, flipping people off, etc. You know nothing about brotherhood. You have no idea, pal. None. You couldn't stand your ground if your fucked ass was glued to it. Yet you are the one who feels he needs to hang with a crowd for protection.
Once again, I don't give a flying fuck about your life or past.
Yeah, you're a 1%er alright. One of the 1% who give the other 99% a bad name. That's why I chose not to hang with your type...I grew up.
What kind of black shit flows through your veins? I wouldn't ride with you nor would I even jump with you. You are amongst the worst kind of people I know and even worst. Your hatred towards others is shameful. Sadly your mother did not miscarriage your sad sack ass. And, LOUD PIPES DO SAVE LIVES. Bullshit. It's just another pussy excuse guys like you make up so you can make lots of noise. I believe the medical term is "compensation" 
Kindly go fuck your yourself with a hot welding rod. 
HAMMER:
Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a
kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the
object we are trying to hit.
Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a
kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the
object we are trying to hit.
QuoteLoud pipes are not necessary, and do little more than pollute, both the air and everyone's hearing.
Pipes have very little to do with emission output, unless your mufflers have a catalyst . Fuel/air ratio has more to do with emission output. That and properly tuned.
This thread has gone too far down the tangent track. I'm done talking about motorcycles. I get far to defensive about my lifestyle. I'm going for a ride. Everyone have a safe weekend. Including you, Belgian Draft.
"...And once you're gone, you can't come back
When you're out of the blue and into the black."
Neil Young
When you're out of the blue and into the black."
Neil Young
billvon 2,990
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>If you are trying to get people off welfare . then i suggest limiting their
>time in receiving it and making them work for their benefits . . .
That was done in 1996. (Google "Personal Responsibility and Work Opportunity Act.") Two years without working and you lose your benefits. Five years for any reason whatsoever and you lose your benefits. Afterwards both # of people on welfare and # of people in poverty declined.
>time in receiving it and making them work for their benefits . . .
That was done in 1996. (Google "Personal Responsibility and Work Opportunity Act.") Two years without working and you lose your benefits. Five years for any reason whatsoever and you lose your benefits. Afterwards both # of people on welfare and # of people in poverty declined.
billvon 2,990
Fly, Belgian, Mneal - cut it out. Your one warning.
tkhayes 348
yes the country is broke so let's waste more money drug testing welfare recipients while we pursue some idealism that dictates no one should get a free dollar from anyone.
Let eliminate ALL Welfare recipients and cut out the welfare programs COMPLETELY.
that will save us 1% of the budget. Then we can put that money to some REAL use, like fighting more wars and funding oil companies - or better yet, funding some NEW F-xx fighter jet that will never be used.
don't you all have something better to do?
Let eliminate ALL Welfare recipients and cut out the welfare programs COMPLETELY.
that will save us 1% of the budget. Then we can put that money to some REAL use, like fighting more wars and funding oil companies - or better yet, funding some NEW F-xx fighter jet that will never be used.
don't you all have something better to do?
jimbrown 0
QuoteHi lou
Why only test welfare recipients?
Let's test everyone thats working in critical positions also for "Drugs" booze and meds.
Dr's, Lawyers, Airline pilots, School teacher's, Oil tanker captains, School bus drivers, Judges etc etc etc
R.I.P.
Why don't we also just check out all the medical records?
That seems easier and more cost effective.
Mr. Jones got a prescription for xanax.
Suspend his license until that prescription has run it's course.
Peace,
Jim B
Krip 2
HIPAA
BIGUN 1,298
QuoteI'm still not sure what drug testing a welfare recipient is going to accomplish.
One might consider it a pre-test for employ-ability. If the objective is to segue welfare recipients to mainstream... might want to find out if they'd piss hot prior to sending them out on an interview.
Nobody has time to listen; because they're desperately chasing the need of being heard.
QuoteThe Rich Do Not Create Jobs
Lots of regular people having money to spend is what creates jobs and businesses. That is the basic idea of demand-side economics and it works. In a consumer-driven economy designed to serve people, regular people with money in their pockets is what keeps everything going. And the equal opportunity of democracy with its reinvestment in infrastructure and education and the other fruits of democracy is fundamental to keeping a demand-side economy functioning.
When all the money goes to a few at the top everything breaks down. Taxing the people at the top and reinvesting the money into the democratic society is fundamental to keeping things going.
Democracy Creates Jobs
This idea that a few wealthy people -- the "producers" -- hand everything down to the rest of us -- "the parasites" -- is fundamentally at odds with the concept of democracy. In a democracy we all have an equal voice and an equal stake in how our society and our economy does. We do not "depend" on the good graces of a favored few for our livelihoods. We all are supposed to have an equal opportunity, and equal rights. And there are things we are all entitled to -- "entitlements" -- that we get just because we were born here. But we all share in the responsibility to cover the costs of democracy -- with the rich having a greater responsibility than the rest of us because they receive the most benefit from it. This is why we have "progressive taxes" where the rates are supposed to go up as the income does.
http://www.alternet.org/newsandviews/article/588102/actually%2C_%22the_rich%22_don%27t_%22create_jobs%22_--_we_do/#paragraph4
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SkyDekker 1,465
QuoteOne might consider it a pre-test for employ-ability. If the objective is to segue welfare recipients to mainstream... might want to find out if they'd piss hot prior to sending them out on an interview.
And then what? Now you have taken on costs normally born by the private sector. How exactly are you saving the public sector any money?
QuoteQuoteOne might consider it a pre-test for employ-ability. If the objective is to segue welfare recipients to mainstream... might want to find out if they'd piss hot prior to sending them out on an interview.
And then what? Now you have taken on costs normally born by the private sector. How exactly are you saving the public sector any money?
nevermind the ease in which these are passed. Some of the Bay Area firms that supply IT people all over (EDS, IBM) do a single test at the beginning. They have no shortage of potheads that seem to function fine, and aren't screened out by the process.
BIGUN 1,298
QuoteQuoteOne might consider it a pre-test for employ-ability. If the objective is to segue welfare recipients to mainstream... might want to find out if they'd piss hot prior to sending them out on an interview.
And then what? Now you have taken on costs normally born by the private sector. How exactly are you saving the public sector any money?
Please look at the post I was replying to... I didn't say it would save the public sector any money.
Nobody has time to listen; because they're desperately chasing the need of being heard.
SkyDekker 1,465
QuotePlease look at the post I was replying to... I didn't say it would save the public sector any money.
So you would be in favour of paying more taxes to drug test welfare recipients? (unless you think this would be a cost neutral endeavour?)
Would you also put monitoring software on their computers to ensure they’re not going to bad web sites? Put a GPS in their car to ensure they break no speed limits? Send an auditor every year to make sure they tell the truth on their taxes? How do you decide which laws they should be arbitrarily held to a higher standard on, and what constitutional amendment do you propose to work around the whole probable cause, warrantless search issue?
Blues,
Dave
Blues,
Dave
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BIGUN 1,298
QuoteQuotePlease look at the post I was replying to... I didn't say it would save the public sector any money.
So you would be in favour of paying more taxes to drug test welfare recipients? (unless you think this would be a cost neutral endeavour?)
Evidently, in some states it results in a savings and in others; a greater cost.
http://www.google.com/#hl=en&biw=1024&bih=462&sa=X&ei=nxTUTYD6F6Xj0QHBw-XPCw&ved=0CBsQvwUoAQ&q=the+cost+of+drug+testing+welfare+recipients&spell=1&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.&fp=c4b94ef403c105f7
Nobody has time to listen; because they're desperately chasing the need of being heard.
that last line was a bit ironic, given the amount of bile in this posting.
Being biker trash has little to do with riding safety. I had a 4 year spell in the 90s where I commuted cross bay in heavy San Francisco region traffic. Did 60,000 miles over 4 years, a significant amount of it splitting lanes. Somehow I survived without incident, without being a "biker," IN A FUCKING BMW, one of the quietest motorcycles out there. Loud pipes are not necessary, and do little more than pollute, both the air and everyone's hearing. Mostly it's a form of dick stroking for the true assholes out there. "Look at me and my hog!"
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