Coreece 190 #201 May 27, 2011 QuoteI love you brother . You are not my brother. QuoteIt is inevitable . Eventually you will awake to the Truth Coreece. I wish I could say the same for you, but I don't see it happening until you deny yourself and come to the realization of your wretchedness compared to the Glory of the one true God and beg for clemency.Your secrets are the true reflection of who you really are... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jimbrown 0 #202 May 27, 2011 QuoteQuoteI love you brother . You are not my brother.Quote You can deny me if you want but by that action you also deny the Master, Jesus the Christ. I am your brother Coreece. And I love you without reservation. Peace, Relax, There really is no devil looking to stick his 20 inch barbed cock up your ass if you do "wrong". Relax. Have a drink of water. Walk around a bit and then watch some tv. Relax Coreece, my brother. It's all gonna be OK!!! Peace, Jim B Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Coreece 190 #203 May 27, 2011 QuoteYou can deny me if you want but by that action you also deny the Master, Jesus the Christ. I am your brother Coreece. And I love you without reservation. It hurts me to say the words I spoke, but I love you enough to tell you the truth. Why do you hate us so much to spew words of flattery? QuoteIt's all gonna be OK!!! You can keep telling that to yourself, but it won't make it true.Your secrets are the true reflection of who you really are... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites jimbrown 0 #204 May 27, 2011 QuoteQuoteYou can deny me if you want but by that action you also deny the Master, Jesus the Christ. I am your brother Coreece. And I love you without reservation. It hurts me to say the words I spoke, but I love you enough to tell you the truth. Why do you hate us so much to spew words of flattery? QuoteIt's all gonna be OK!!! You can keep telling that to yourself, but it won't make it true. No really, It all is going to be all right. It doesn't matter what you do or don't do,brother. It's all going to be allright. That is the teaching of the Master Jesus the Christ. So Mote it Be Peace, Jim B Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Coreece 190 #205 May 27, 2011 Quote No really, It all is going to be all right. It doesn't matter what you do or don't do,brother. Listen, I'm all about grace through faith, but faith without works is dead. Quote It's all going to be allright. That is the teaching of the Master Jesus the Christ. You've explained nothing. You have only spewed flattery, lies and deceit. You're to obvious...even Wormwood could put you to shame.Your secrets are the true reflection of who you really are... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites jimbrown 0 #206 May 27, 2011 QuoteChristianity stands or falls on the resurrection. If jesus did not die on the cross and if he was not raised from the dead, then the whole thing is a sham and we are not forgiven of our sins. That would be very bad news for everyone. Relax Jaybird. Jesus taught that the only entity who could forgive us our "sins" is ourself. Peace , Jim B Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites jimbrown 0 #207 May 27, 2011 [replyYou've explained nothing. You have only spewed flattery, lies and deceit.Quote What needs to be explained? I've suggested that you look inside yourself for enlightenment. I've even suggested that you can simply step out of the physical world and go home for a bit where you can observe the physical world in its' entirety, start to finish. You can re -realise why by your own free will you chose to incarnate into this dimension. I'm not sure what permission slip you may need to enjoy a happy life but perhaps you should just decide to be happy, live a life of happiness and spread that to everyone you meet. "Flattery, lies and deceit"? Really my Brother? Is that how you percieve my original thoughts? Brother , I love you unconditionally! Relax,Coreece. Everything is going to be alright! Peace, Jim B Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Coreece 190 #208 May 27, 2011 QuoteWhat needs to be explained? Everything that comes out of your mouth. I hardly find you to be a credible source for anything. Give us something objective...anything, for once.Your secrets are the true reflection of who you really are... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites jaybird18c 24 #209 May 27, 2011 QuoteRelax Jaybird. Jesus taught that the only entity who could forgive us our "sins" is ourself. Peace , Jim B Salvation belongs to the Lord. (Psalm 3:8) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites maadmax 0 #210 May 27, 2011 Oh!!! You didn't answer my question about King David. You know the guy who wrote the psalms you were quoting earlier. Was he a nice guy like you and I, or did he have a dark side? How many of his fellow humans did he kill? You make a good observation. David was an evil despicable man with a desperately wicked mind. Which, by the way, so are we all. Even the white washed atheists who do so many good works. The message of the Bible is that God can transform our minds with His Word and make us like Himself. David underwent such a transformation and became " a man after God's own heart". David was chosen by God after his spiritual regeneration to convey spiritual wisdom to many generations. Unless of course you are already god and require no such wisdom. ... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites jaybird18c 24 #211 May 27, 2011 Exactly right Max! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Coreece 190 #212 May 27, 2011 Quote Exactly right Max! +1 Thanks for cleaning that up for me Max.Your secrets are the true reflection of who you really are... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Coreece 190 #213 May 27, 2011 Quote"Flattery, lies and deceit"? Really my Brother? Is that how you percieve my original thoughts? Yes...basically your original idea seems to be starting a new religion like Smith and Hubbard. If you weren't passing this off as some type of neo-quasi form of Christianity, I doubt we'd be having this conversation.Your secrets are the true reflection of who you really are... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites jimbrown 0 #214 May 30, 2011 Quote . The message of the Bible is that God can transform our minds with His Word and make us like Himself. David underwent such a transformation and became " a man after God's own heart". David was chosen by God after his spiritual regeneration to convey spiritual wisdom to many generations. Unless of course you are already god and require no such wisdom.Quote So.., about all those hundreds of thousands of humans that King David killed who may not have been totally spiritualy clean according to Judeo standards and whom he deprived of a chance to "*turn their lives around*, what has become of their souls? Does your God hold them in less esteem than the aggressor of those bloody massacres? Peace, Jim B ... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites maadmax 0 #215 May 30, 2011 So.., about all those hundreds of thousands of humans that King David killed who may not have been totally spiritualy clean according to Judeo standards and whom he deprived of a chance to "*turn their lives around*, what has become of their souls? Does your God hold them in less esteem than the aggressor of those bloody massacres? Peace, Jim B I am sure they will receive mercy like all of the rest of Gods children. ... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites jimbrown 0 #216 May 30, 2011 Quote I am sure they will receive mercy like all of the rest of Gods children. ... So then you believe as I that we are all gods' children and as brothers and sisters of Jesus the Christ are also every bit as much God as Him? Peace, Jim B. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites jimbrown 0 #217 May 30, 2011 QuoteQuote"Flattery, lies and deceit"? Really my Brother? Is that how you percieve my original thoughts? Yes...basically your original idea seems to be starting a new religion like Smith and Hubbard. If you weren't passing this off as some type of neo-quasi form of Christianity, I doubt we'd be having this conversation. I'm not trying to start a new "religion", Coreece. I'm just re-iterating the True Teachings of the Master, Jesus the Christ. Peace, Jim B Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites jimbrown 0 #218 May 30, 2011 QuoteQuoteRelax Jaybird. Jesus taught that the only entity who could forgive us our "sins" is ourself. Peace , Jim B Salvation belongs to the Lord. (Psalm 3:8) I'm not sure why the Lord needs "Salvation" but I'm happy he found it. Personally I don't need "Salvation". I was never lost. Peace, Jim B Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites jaybird18c 24 #219 May 30, 2011 QuoteI'm not sure why the Lord needs "Salvation" but I'm happy he found it. It means that only the Lord determines the standard of righteousness...not you...or me. It anyone is going to be saved, it will be worked out by Him alone. QuotePersonally I don't need "Salvation". I was never lost. Then you are radically out of line with what the scriptures say concerning the doctrine of man and salvation and are very much in the realm of non-Christian cult thinking. The first three chapters of Romans does nothing but establish the total depravity of man and his need for salvation. (Particularly Romans 3:23-26). I have no idea how any professing Christian can just read the Bible and not at least grasp the theme from Genesis to Revelation. I can understand a non-Christian not believing it...but even he/she can usually read what it says. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites jimbrown 0 #220 May 30, 2011 QuoteQuoteI'm not sure why the Lord needs "Salvation" but I'm happy he found it. It means that only the Lord determines the standard of righteousness...not you...or me. It anyone is going to be saved, it will be worked out by Him alone. Quote LOL! You just can't "get it" can ya? What you have been indoctrinated to believe is not the one Truth. The first three chapters of Romans does nothing but establish the total depravity of man and his need for salvation.Quote Exactly. Thing is that everything created is perfect. Even you would have to admit that your God would not create less than perfection. If that is the case than the first three chapters of Romans must be forgeries or at least less than the inspired writings of your God. Or is it that you believe that your Gods' creations are less than perfect? Peace, Jim B Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites maadmax 0 #221 May 30, 2011 So then you believe as I that we are all gods' children and as brothers and sisters of Jesus the Christ are also every bit as much God as Him? Peace, Jim B. Yes, but since we were created in God's image that included free will. We used our free will to separate ourselves form God and become gods, deciding good and evil, apart from Him. Our sin is a barrier between us and God. We can personally remove that barrier by opening our consciousness to Christ through faith, humbly accepting His healing and regeneration. ... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites jaybird18c 24 #222 May 30, 2011 QuoteExactly. Thing is that everything created is perfect. Even you would have to admit that your God would not create less than perfection. If that is the case than the first three chapters of Romans must be forgeries or at least less than the inspired writings of your God. Or is it that you believe that your Gods' creations are less than perfect? Signs of a Cult (who claim to be Christian but depart from essentials of Christianity) 1. Addition - Add to Bible as their authoritative source; extrabiblical authority (e.g. Book of Mormon) 2. Subtraction - Take away from the person of Jesus Christ; deny His divinity; make Him into "just a man" or angel; just a good "teacher of morality" 3. Multiplication - Multiplying requirements for salvation; works and not "faith alone" 4. Division - Drive divisive wedge between loyalty to God's word and loyalty to what the leader says; loyalty to the Church of believers in Christ versus loyalty to the leader's "earthly family." In any case, the attack from non-believers and cults usually begins with the attack on the authenticity, authoritative nature, and sufficiency of scripture....it then is directed squarely at denying the divinity of Jesus Christ and the nature of His saving work on the cross. Below is an excellent discussion on the topic: "Cults, Occult, Religion, Christ" - Apologetics Resource Center (ARC), Birmingham, AL Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites jimbrown 0 #223 May 30, 2011 Quote So then you believe as I that we are all gods' children and as brothers and sisters of Jesus the Christ are also every bit as much God as Him? Peace, Jim B. Yes, but since we were created in God's image that included free will. We used our free will to separate ourselves form God and become gods,Quote As a drop of sea water seperated from the sea will always retain the properties of the sea and easily can be reincorporated, We as gods being seperated from the godhead still retain those God properties . We used our free will to incarnate in to human form as did the Master Jesus the Christ. Neither He or We acted in an affront to God ,nor could we, as we are God Himself. Peace, Jim B Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites jimbrown 0 #224 May 30, 2011 QuoteQuoteExactly. Thing is that everything created is perfect. Even you would have to admit that your God would not create less than perfection. If that is the case than the first three chapters of Romans must be forgeries or at least less than the inspired writings of your God. Or is it that you believe that your Gods' creations are less than perfect? Signs of a Cult (who claim to be Christian but depart from essentials of Christianity) 1. Addition - Add to Bible as their authoritative source; extrabiblical authority (e.g. Book of Mormon) 2. Subtraction - Take away from the person of Jesus Christ; deny His divinity; make Him into "just a man" or angel; just a good "teacher of morality" 3. Multiplication - Multiplying requirements for salvation; works and not "faith alone" 4. Division - Drive divisive wedge between loyalty to God's word and loyalty to what the leader says; loyalty to the Church of believers in Christ versus loyalty to the leader's "earthly family." In any case, the attack from non-believers and cults usually begins with the attack on the authenticity, authoritative nature, and sufficiency of scripture....it then is directed squarely at denying the divinity of Jesus Christ and the nature of His saving work on the cross.Quote I don't know where you got all that ,Jay. I kinda doubt it is your own original thought. Tell me , can one man qualify as a "cult"? The Master , Jesus the Christ was one man speaking his own original thoughts of Truth. Was he a "cult" or were those religions which bastardized his teachings "cults"?. Peace, Jim B Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites maadmax 0 #225 May 30, 2011 Yes, but since we were created in God's image that included free will. We used our free will to separate ourselves form God and become gods As a drop of sea water seperated from the sea will always retain the properties of the sea and easily can be reincorporated, We as gods being seperated from the godhead still retain those God properties . We used our free will to incarnate in to human form as did the Master Jesus the Christ. Neither He or We acted in an affront to God ,nor could we, as we are God Himself. Peace, Jim B I like your lofty thoughts, but I am afraid your way leads to self deification and destruction. Many have preceded you on that path. PS - go SCUBA diving sometime, you will see that there are layers of sea water that remain separate and don't mix, due to differences in salinity and temperature. ... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Prev 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 Next Page 9 of 25 Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. 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Coreece 190 #203 May 27, 2011 QuoteYou can deny me if you want but by that action you also deny the Master, Jesus the Christ. I am your brother Coreece. And I love you without reservation. It hurts me to say the words I spoke, but I love you enough to tell you the truth. Why do you hate us so much to spew words of flattery? QuoteIt's all gonna be OK!!! You can keep telling that to yourself, but it won't make it true.Your secrets are the true reflection of who you really are... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jimbrown 0 #204 May 27, 2011 QuoteQuoteYou can deny me if you want but by that action you also deny the Master, Jesus the Christ. I am your brother Coreece. And I love you without reservation. It hurts me to say the words I spoke, but I love you enough to tell you the truth. Why do you hate us so much to spew words of flattery? QuoteIt's all gonna be OK!!! You can keep telling that to yourself, but it won't make it true. No really, It all is going to be all right. It doesn't matter what you do or don't do,brother. It's all going to be allright. That is the teaching of the Master Jesus the Christ. So Mote it Be Peace, Jim B Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Coreece 190 #205 May 27, 2011 Quote No really, It all is going to be all right. It doesn't matter what you do or don't do,brother. Listen, I'm all about grace through faith, but faith without works is dead. Quote It's all going to be allright. That is the teaching of the Master Jesus the Christ. You've explained nothing. You have only spewed flattery, lies and deceit. You're to obvious...even Wormwood could put you to shame.Your secrets are the true reflection of who you really are... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jimbrown 0 #206 May 27, 2011 QuoteChristianity stands or falls on the resurrection. If jesus did not die on the cross and if he was not raised from the dead, then the whole thing is a sham and we are not forgiven of our sins. That would be very bad news for everyone. Relax Jaybird. Jesus taught that the only entity who could forgive us our "sins" is ourself. Peace , Jim B Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jimbrown 0 #207 May 27, 2011 [replyYou've explained nothing. You have only spewed flattery, lies and deceit.Quote What needs to be explained? I've suggested that you look inside yourself for enlightenment. I've even suggested that you can simply step out of the physical world and go home for a bit where you can observe the physical world in its' entirety, start to finish. You can re -realise why by your own free will you chose to incarnate into this dimension. I'm not sure what permission slip you may need to enjoy a happy life but perhaps you should just decide to be happy, live a life of happiness and spread that to everyone you meet. "Flattery, lies and deceit"? Really my Brother? Is that how you percieve my original thoughts? Brother , I love you unconditionally! Relax,Coreece. Everything is going to be alright! Peace, Jim B Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Coreece 190 #208 May 27, 2011 QuoteWhat needs to be explained? Everything that comes out of your mouth. I hardly find you to be a credible source for anything. Give us something objective...anything, for once.Your secrets are the true reflection of who you really are... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites jaybird18c 24 #209 May 27, 2011 QuoteRelax Jaybird. Jesus taught that the only entity who could forgive us our "sins" is ourself. Peace , Jim B Salvation belongs to the Lord. (Psalm 3:8) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites maadmax 0 #210 May 27, 2011 Oh!!! You didn't answer my question about King David. You know the guy who wrote the psalms you were quoting earlier. Was he a nice guy like you and I, or did he have a dark side? How many of his fellow humans did he kill? You make a good observation. David was an evil despicable man with a desperately wicked mind. Which, by the way, so are we all. Even the white washed atheists who do so many good works. The message of the Bible is that God can transform our minds with His Word and make us like Himself. David underwent such a transformation and became " a man after God's own heart". David was chosen by God after his spiritual regeneration to convey spiritual wisdom to many generations. Unless of course you are already god and require no such wisdom. ... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites jaybird18c 24 #211 May 27, 2011 Exactly right Max! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Coreece 190 #212 May 27, 2011 Quote Exactly right Max! +1 Thanks for cleaning that up for me Max.Your secrets are the true reflection of who you really are... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Coreece 190 #213 May 27, 2011 Quote"Flattery, lies and deceit"? Really my Brother? Is that how you percieve my original thoughts? Yes...basically your original idea seems to be starting a new religion like Smith and Hubbard. If you weren't passing this off as some type of neo-quasi form of Christianity, I doubt we'd be having this conversation.Your secrets are the true reflection of who you really are... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites jimbrown 0 #214 May 30, 2011 Quote . The message of the Bible is that God can transform our minds with His Word and make us like Himself. David underwent such a transformation and became " a man after God's own heart". David was chosen by God after his spiritual regeneration to convey spiritual wisdom to many generations. Unless of course you are already god and require no such wisdom.Quote So.., about all those hundreds of thousands of humans that King David killed who may not have been totally spiritualy clean according to Judeo standards and whom he deprived of a chance to "*turn their lives around*, what has become of their souls? Does your God hold them in less esteem than the aggressor of those bloody massacres? Peace, Jim B ... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites maadmax 0 #215 May 30, 2011 So.., about all those hundreds of thousands of humans that King David killed who may not have been totally spiritualy clean according to Judeo standards and whom he deprived of a chance to "*turn their lives around*, what has become of their souls? Does your God hold them in less esteem than the aggressor of those bloody massacres? Peace, Jim B I am sure they will receive mercy like all of the rest of Gods children. ... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites jimbrown 0 #216 May 30, 2011 Quote I am sure they will receive mercy like all of the rest of Gods children. ... So then you believe as I that we are all gods' children and as brothers and sisters of Jesus the Christ are also every bit as much God as Him? Peace, Jim B. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Coreece 190 #208 May 27, 2011 QuoteWhat needs to be explained? Everything that comes out of your mouth. I hardly find you to be a credible source for anything. Give us something objective...anything, for once.Your secrets are the true reflection of who you really are... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jaybird18c 24 #209 May 27, 2011 QuoteRelax Jaybird. Jesus taught that the only entity who could forgive us our "sins" is ourself. Peace , Jim B Salvation belongs to the Lord. (Psalm 3:8) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
maadmax 0 #210 May 27, 2011 Oh!!! You didn't answer my question about King David. You know the guy who wrote the psalms you were quoting earlier. Was he a nice guy like you and I, or did he have a dark side? How many of his fellow humans did he kill? You make a good observation. David was an evil despicable man with a desperately wicked mind. Which, by the way, so are we all. Even the white washed atheists who do so many good works. The message of the Bible is that God can transform our minds with His Word and make us like Himself. David underwent such a transformation and became " a man after God's own heart". David was chosen by God after his spiritual regeneration to convey spiritual wisdom to many generations. Unless of course you are already god and require no such wisdom. ... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jaybird18c 24 #211 May 27, 2011 Exactly right Max! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Coreece 190 #212 May 27, 2011 Quote Exactly right Max! +1 Thanks for cleaning that up for me Max.Your secrets are the true reflection of who you really are... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Coreece 190 #213 May 27, 2011 Quote"Flattery, lies and deceit"? Really my Brother? Is that how you percieve my original thoughts? Yes...basically your original idea seems to be starting a new religion like Smith and Hubbard. If you weren't passing this off as some type of neo-quasi form of Christianity, I doubt we'd be having this conversation.Your secrets are the true reflection of who you really are... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jimbrown 0 #214 May 30, 2011 Quote . The message of the Bible is that God can transform our minds with His Word and make us like Himself. David underwent such a transformation and became " a man after God's own heart". David was chosen by God after his spiritual regeneration to convey spiritual wisdom to many generations. Unless of course you are already god and require no such wisdom.Quote So.., about all those hundreds of thousands of humans that King David killed who may not have been totally spiritualy clean according to Judeo standards and whom he deprived of a chance to "*turn their lives around*, what has become of their souls? Does your God hold them in less esteem than the aggressor of those bloody massacres? Peace, Jim B ... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites maadmax 0 #215 May 30, 2011 So.., about all those hundreds of thousands of humans that King David killed who may not have been totally spiritualy clean according to Judeo standards and whom he deprived of a chance to "*turn their lives around*, what has become of their souls? Does your God hold them in less esteem than the aggressor of those bloody massacres? Peace, Jim B I am sure they will receive mercy like all of the rest of Gods children. ... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
maadmax 0 #215 May 30, 2011 So.., about all those hundreds of thousands of humans that King David killed who may not have been totally spiritualy clean according to Judeo standards and whom he deprived of a chance to "*turn their lives around*, what has become of their souls? Does your God hold them in less esteem than the aggressor of those bloody massacres? Peace, Jim B I am sure they will receive mercy like all of the rest of Gods children. ... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jimbrown 0 #216 May 30, 2011 Quote I am sure they will receive mercy like all of the rest of Gods children. ... So then you believe as I that we are all gods' children and as brothers and sisters of Jesus the Christ are also every bit as much God as Him? Peace, Jim B. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jimbrown 0 #217 May 30, 2011 QuoteQuote"Flattery, lies and deceit"? Really my Brother? Is that how you percieve my original thoughts? Yes...basically your original idea seems to be starting a new religion like Smith and Hubbard. If you weren't passing this off as some type of neo-quasi form of Christianity, I doubt we'd be having this conversation. I'm not trying to start a new "religion", Coreece. I'm just re-iterating the True Teachings of the Master, Jesus the Christ. Peace, Jim B Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jimbrown 0 #218 May 30, 2011 QuoteQuoteRelax Jaybird. Jesus taught that the only entity who could forgive us our "sins" is ourself. Peace , Jim B Salvation belongs to the Lord. (Psalm 3:8) I'm not sure why the Lord needs "Salvation" but I'm happy he found it. Personally I don't need "Salvation". I was never lost. Peace, Jim B Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jaybird18c 24 #219 May 30, 2011 QuoteI'm not sure why the Lord needs "Salvation" but I'm happy he found it. It means that only the Lord determines the standard of righteousness...not you...or me. It anyone is going to be saved, it will be worked out by Him alone. QuotePersonally I don't need "Salvation". I was never lost. Then you are radically out of line with what the scriptures say concerning the doctrine of man and salvation and are very much in the realm of non-Christian cult thinking. The first three chapters of Romans does nothing but establish the total depravity of man and his need for salvation. (Particularly Romans 3:23-26). I have no idea how any professing Christian can just read the Bible and not at least grasp the theme from Genesis to Revelation. I can understand a non-Christian not believing it...but even he/she can usually read what it says. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jimbrown 0 #220 May 30, 2011 QuoteQuoteI'm not sure why the Lord needs "Salvation" but I'm happy he found it. It means that only the Lord determines the standard of righteousness...not you...or me. It anyone is going to be saved, it will be worked out by Him alone. Quote LOL! You just can't "get it" can ya? What you have been indoctrinated to believe is not the one Truth. The first three chapters of Romans does nothing but establish the total depravity of man and his need for salvation.Quote Exactly. Thing is that everything created is perfect. Even you would have to admit that your God would not create less than perfection. If that is the case than the first three chapters of Romans must be forgeries or at least less than the inspired writings of your God. Or is it that you believe that your Gods' creations are less than perfect? Peace, Jim B Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites maadmax 0 #221 May 30, 2011 So then you believe as I that we are all gods' children and as brothers and sisters of Jesus the Christ are also every bit as much God as Him? Peace, Jim B. Yes, but since we were created in God's image that included free will. We used our free will to separate ourselves form God and become gods, deciding good and evil, apart from Him. Our sin is a barrier between us and God. We can personally remove that barrier by opening our consciousness to Christ through faith, humbly accepting His healing and regeneration. ... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites jaybird18c 24 #222 May 30, 2011 QuoteExactly. Thing is that everything created is perfect. Even you would have to admit that your God would not create less than perfection. If that is the case than the first three chapters of Romans must be forgeries or at least less than the inspired writings of your God. Or is it that you believe that your Gods' creations are less than perfect? Signs of a Cult (who claim to be Christian but depart from essentials of Christianity) 1. Addition - Add to Bible as their authoritative source; extrabiblical authority (e.g. Book of Mormon) 2. Subtraction - Take away from the person of Jesus Christ; deny His divinity; make Him into "just a man" or angel; just a good "teacher of morality" 3. Multiplication - Multiplying requirements for salvation; works and not "faith alone" 4. Division - Drive divisive wedge between loyalty to God's word and loyalty to what the leader says; loyalty to the Church of believers in Christ versus loyalty to the leader's "earthly family." In any case, the attack from non-believers and cults usually begins with the attack on the authenticity, authoritative nature, and sufficiency of scripture....it then is directed squarely at denying the divinity of Jesus Christ and the nature of His saving work on the cross. Below is an excellent discussion on the topic: "Cults, Occult, Religion, Christ" - Apologetics Resource Center (ARC), Birmingham, AL Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites jimbrown 0 #223 May 30, 2011 Quote So then you believe as I that we are all gods' children and as brothers and sisters of Jesus the Christ are also every bit as much God as Him? Peace, Jim B. Yes, but since we were created in God's image that included free will. We used our free will to separate ourselves form God and become gods,Quote As a drop of sea water seperated from the sea will always retain the properties of the sea and easily can be reincorporated, We as gods being seperated from the godhead still retain those God properties . We used our free will to incarnate in to human form as did the Master Jesus the Christ. Neither He or We acted in an affront to God ,nor could we, as we are God Himself. Peace, Jim B Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites jimbrown 0 #224 May 30, 2011 QuoteQuoteExactly. Thing is that everything created is perfect. Even you would have to admit that your God would not create less than perfection. If that is the case than the first three chapters of Romans must be forgeries or at least less than the inspired writings of your God. Or is it that you believe that your Gods' creations are less than perfect? Signs of a Cult (who claim to be Christian but depart from essentials of Christianity) 1. Addition - Add to Bible as their authoritative source; extrabiblical authority (e.g. Book of Mormon) 2. Subtraction - Take away from the person of Jesus Christ; deny His divinity; make Him into "just a man" or angel; just a good "teacher of morality" 3. Multiplication - Multiplying requirements for salvation; works and not "faith alone" 4. Division - Drive divisive wedge between loyalty to God's word and loyalty to what the leader says; loyalty to the Church of believers in Christ versus loyalty to the leader's "earthly family." In any case, the attack from non-believers and cults usually begins with the attack on the authenticity, authoritative nature, and sufficiency of scripture....it then is directed squarely at denying the divinity of Jesus Christ and the nature of His saving work on the cross.Quote I don't know where you got all that ,Jay. I kinda doubt it is your own original thought. Tell me , can one man qualify as a "cult"? The Master , Jesus the Christ was one man speaking his own original thoughts of Truth. Was he a "cult" or were those religions which bastardized his teachings "cults"?. Peace, Jim B Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites maadmax 0 #225 May 30, 2011 Yes, but since we were created in God's image that included free will. We used our free will to separate ourselves form God and become gods As a drop of sea water seperated from the sea will always retain the properties of the sea and easily can be reincorporated, We as gods being seperated from the godhead still retain those God properties . We used our free will to incarnate in to human form as did the Master Jesus the Christ. Neither He or We acted in an affront to God ,nor could we, as we are God Himself. Peace, Jim B I like your lofty thoughts, but I am afraid your way leads to self deification and destruction. Many have preceded you on that path. PS - go SCUBA diving sometime, you will see that there are layers of sea water that remain separate and don't mix, due to differences in salinity and temperature. ... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Prev 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 Next Page 9 of 25 Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. 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maadmax 0 #221 May 30, 2011 So then you believe as I that we are all gods' children and as brothers and sisters of Jesus the Christ are also every bit as much God as Him? Peace, Jim B. Yes, but since we were created in God's image that included free will. We used our free will to separate ourselves form God and become gods, deciding good and evil, apart from Him. Our sin is a barrier between us and God. We can personally remove that barrier by opening our consciousness to Christ through faith, humbly accepting His healing and regeneration. ... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jaybird18c 24 #222 May 30, 2011 QuoteExactly. Thing is that everything created is perfect. Even you would have to admit that your God would not create less than perfection. If that is the case than the first three chapters of Romans must be forgeries or at least less than the inspired writings of your God. Or is it that you believe that your Gods' creations are less than perfect? Signs of a Cult (who claim to be Christian but depart from essentials of Christianity) 1. Addition - Add to Bible as their authoritative source; extrabiblical authority (e.g. Book of Mormon) 2. Subtraction - Take away from the person of Jesus Christ; deny His divinity; make Him into "just a man" or angel; just a good "teacher of morality" 3. Multiplication - Multiplying requirements for salvation; works and not "faith alone" 4. Division - Drive divisive wedge between loyalty to God's word and loyalty to what the leader says; loyalty to the Church of believers in Christ versus loyalty to the leader's "earthly family." In any case, the attack from non-believers and cults usually begins with the attack on the authenticity, authoritative nature, and sufficiency of scripture....it then is directed squarely at denying the divinity of Jesus Christ and the nature of His saving work on the cross. Below is an excellent discussion on the topic: "Cults, Occult, Religion, Christ" - Apologetics Resource Center (ARC), Birmingham, AL Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jimbrown 0 #223 May 30, 2011 Quote So then you believe as I that we are all gods' children and as brothers and sisters of Jesus the Christ are also every bit as much God as Him? Peace, Jim B. Yes, but since we were created in God's image that included free will. We used our free will to separate ourselves form God and become gods,Quote As a drop of sea water seperated from the sea will always retain the properties of the sea and easily can be reincorporated, We as gods being seperated from the godhead still retain those God properties . We used our free will to incarnate in to human form as did the Master Jesus the Christ. Neither He or We acted in an affront to God ,nor could we, as we are God Himself. Peace, Jim B Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jimbrown 0 #224 May 30, 2011 QuoteQuoteExactly. Thing is that everything created is perfect. Even you would have to admit that your God would not create less than perfection. If that is the case than the first three chapters of Romans must be forgeries or at least less than the inspired writings of your God. Or is it that you believe that your Gods' creations are less than perfect? Signs of a Cult (who claim to be Christian but depart from essentials of Christianity) 1. Addition - Add to Bible as their authoritative source; extrabiblical authority (e.g. Book of Mormon) 2. Subtraction - Take away from the person of Jesus Christ; deny His divinity; make Him into "just a man" or angel; just a good "teacher of morality" 3. Multiplication - Multiplying requirements for salvation; works and not "faith alone" 4. Division - Drive divisive wedge between loyalty to God's word and loyalty to what the leader says; loyalty to the Church of believers in Christ versus loyalty to the leader's "earthly family." In any case, the attack from non-believers and cults usually begins with the attack on the authenticity, authoritative nature, and sufficiency of scripture....it then is directed squarely at denying the divinity of Jesus Christ and the nature of His saving work on the cross.Quote I don't know where you got all that ,Jay. I kinda doubt it is your own original thought. Tell me , can one man qualify as a "cult"? The Master , Jesus the Christ was one man speaking his own original thoughts of Truth. Was he a "cult" or were those religions which bastardized his teachings "cults"?. Peace, Jim B Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites maadmax 0 #225 May 30, 2011 Yes, but since we were created in God's image that included free will. We used our free will to separate ourselves form God and become gods As a drop of sea water seperated from the sea will always retain the properties of the sea and easily can be reincorporated, We as gods being seperated from the godhead still retain those God properties . We used our free will to incarnate in to human form as did the Master Jesus the Christ. Neither He or We acted in an affront to God ,nor could we, as we are God Himself. Peace, Jim B I like your lofty thoughts, but I am afraid your way leads to self deification and destruction. Many have preceded you on that path. PS - go SCUBA diving sometime, you will see that there are layers of sea water that remain separate and don't mix, due to differences in salinity and temperature. ... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Prev 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 Next Page 9 of 25 Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. Display as a link instead × Your previous content has been restored. Clear editor × You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL. Insert image from URL × Desktop Tablet Phone Submit Reply 0
maadmax 0 #225 May 30, 2011 Yes, but since we were created in God's image that included free will. We used our free will to separate ourselves form God and become gods As a drop of sea water seperated from the sea will always retain the properties of the sea and easily can be reincorporated, We as gods being seperated from the godhead still retain those God properties . We used our free will to incarnate in to human form as did the Master Jesus the Christ. Neither He or We acted in an affront to God ,nor could we, as we are God Himself. Peace, Jim B I like your lofty thoughts, but I am afraid your way leads to self deification and destruction. Many have preceded you on that path. PS - go SCUBA diving sometime, you will see that there are layers of sea water that remain separate and don't mix, due to differences in salinity and temperature. ... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
